Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU- Inlaws dilemma- Help!!

187 replies

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 10:19

Apologies for long post!

DH and I have been married 8 years 3 kids and currently expecting our 4th child.

We took FIL to his GP appointment yesterday, and they advised a repeat blood test needed. FIL is out of country 6 months of year due to work, and flying out of country on Saturday. I quickly drafted a letter to GP from him asking permissions for full medical history including bloods/results/appointments could be discussed with Husband, and sister in law as there have been issues in the past over communications from which meant him flying back unnecessarily.

I asked FIL if he wanted me in there he said yes, so I added myself too. (For background I usually sort out his appointments, repeat prescriptions, collections etc). Note we live almost 80 miles from his GP, and SIL has never done this in the last few years.

FIL took letter into surgery and I emailed it to SIL, me and hubby so everyone is in the loop. We then took FIL to hospital for blood test to be done asap.

SIL then messages me to say following

"Hi I’m not comfortable with the GP discussing my Dad’s medical condition with you at the same time that it will be discussed with Hubby and I. It’s not appropriate and it’s not right as we are his children. I’ve spoken to FIL about this in the past when you have suggested this before and he agreed that that is not what he wanted. I’ll speak to him about it again but there appears to be crossed wires here.

I say "ok".

At this point I speak to hubby who is in hospital with FIL and he says SIL called him, and he explained to her that FIL was happy for me to be added to letter, and consented, it wasn't done in a malicious/cohersive way.

She replies

"I’ve just seen your email. I’ll write back to the GP today once I’ve spoken to FIL to get the letter reverted. In future I would ask that as my Dad’s daughter matters such as these are discussed with me also before any action I’d taken. It’s going to now look odd that a further letter is done"

I replied stating it's inappropriate she contacts me and that she needs to discuss with FIL and my hubby. She states she doesn't know what's inappropriate and that she is well within her rights to have this view. I state the following.

"To be honest if you dont know there is no point in discussing it with you. There are many different ways in which this situation could have been dealt with and I didn't need to be involved in any of it. What is clear is that you clearly have an issue with me, and that's fine, but I am pregnant, and dont need this addition stress and attitude from you, so I would appreciate it if you don't contact me further. As previously stated please discuss with Hubby and FIL . This would have been the most appropriate way of dealing with it, as it is his medical record, and I only did what FIL discussed with me and hubby and followed his wishes. This is my opinion and I'm well within my rights to have a view too just like you"

She then replies "Stop messaging me then and stay out of family matters"

Heated conversations then took place later that evening between hubby, FIL and SIL, and SIL states to hubby that I shouldn't get involved as I'm not her family, and these are family matters, (but I'm good enough to sort out flight bookings, collecting prescriptions, take him shopping etc when needed). I only get involved in things if FIL directly asks me to help him with something.

Hubby states I am family and she doesn't get to decide who is family or not. She repeats about 10/20 times I'm not her family.

Hubby then asks if our kids are her family, she states Yes, but Your wife is not family. Hubby then states if I am not family then there is no point in any family relations, and that she needs to apologise for her comments. She says never. Hubby explains situation cannot be left as is, and things cannot just go back to normal after her comments. SIL doesn't understand and that they can! Hubby states that if she doesn't understand there is no point in continuing contact.

Who is being unreasonable here?

OP posts:
Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 12:09

Fucking "victim blaming"😂 She hasn't said anything about abuse FGS.

HellenaHandbasket · 09/08/2018 12:09

Does it really have to be all or nothing? Why is 'NC' seen as the ultimate solution? Just let people get on with it.

Nicknacky · 09/08/2018 12:11

Op, you seem to love the drama. Why would you be needing meeting to discuss "issues"!?

Leave your H to deal with his father and sister.

AjasLipstick · 09/08/2018 12:13

SIL is worried about her inheritance.

Mark my words. That's all this is about. She fears you getting too much control of his affairs.

ajandjjmum · 09/08/2018 12:13

Maybe SIL would like to start doing the running round for her DF - it's unfair to expect someone who is not a member of their family to do it!

InfiniteVariety · 09/08/2018 12:13

I don't understand why he needs all these family members involved in his health concerns if he is able to work abroad 6 months of the year! He can't be very elderly/frail?

aaarrrggghhhh · 09/08/2018 12:13

Why is a man who is capable of working abroad for six months of the year getting all these women involved in his health care?

This

dueanotherchange · 09/08/2018 12:13

I think it’s spiteful of you to stop helping just because he doesn’t want you on there?

Disagree completely with this. He's clearly completely sentient. SIL clearly doesn't want the admin, but wants the control and has set him up for this.

The OP is not his unpaid secretary and she's absolutely right to tell him/SIL to sod off. If SIL wants in, she needs to be all in, or else she needs to butt the hell out.

piscis · 09/08/2018 12:14

*Why is a man who is capable of working abroad for six months of the year getting all these women involved in his health care?

None of this is anyone else’s concern except FIL and the people he gives permission to get involved. SIL’s opinion is neither here nor there. If he’s capable of working I should think he’s capable of making that decision for himself.*

Absolutely. I was thinking the same...

harriethoyle · 09/08/2018 12:15

I would feel very uncomfortable with my SIL having to my DFs medical records. She was rude about you not being family but you sound rather interfering and bossy.

SnuggyBuggy · 09/08/2018 12:15

Wifework innit

MipMipMip · 09/08/2018 12:15

Really like that letter Hippo. Especially the bit about her feeling guily. Grin

In all seriousness though I'd second sending that. Make it clear you are doing a complete handover and that you're happy to. Maybe add in something that he had previously requested you be involved but as she now is it will be great to have the extra time?

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 12:18

Nicknacky as I said before this is the last in a long line of issues with sister in law. If there are problems I'm a firm believer is communication to sort them out. When there are problems she usually won't pick up the phone if any family member calls to talk and pretends that all is ok in the hope it will blow over.

OP posts:
harriethoyle · 09/08/2018 12:19

You're a "firm believer in communication" yet told her she was inappropriate for emailing you? OK then...

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 12:19

Hungryhippo90 I really like this. Thank you

OP posts:
Advice79 · 09/08/2018 12:23

Harrietoyle I said she was inappropriate for emailing me as she needed to discuss with FIL and hubby.

OP posts:
diddl · 09/08/2018 12:25

Did I read that his GP is 80miles away from you?

How did you ever get involved in taking him to routine GP appointments when such a distance is involved?

Why were both of you there, not just your husband?

Why did you think it necessary for FIL's medical history to be available to anyone other than him?

Seeingadistance · 09/08/2018 12:26

Why can’t your FIL take control of his own life?

Simplest thing is surely for him to speak to a lawyer and make arrangements for medical and any other similar matters to be dealt with while he’s abroad.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 12:34

Diddl me and hubby used to live in same area as FIL but moved last year. FIL doesn't drive, is in late 70's and has a mobility issue. We usually take him when it's needed and when he is in the country. Both me and hubby were in the car, and following his gp appointment he needed a blood test. We had issues with the GP discussing results with hubby in the past when FIL was out of country and he came back as an emergency but it was unnecessary and v expensive. but we didn't know that until he came back to see his GP. hence me writing a letter requesting the GP can discuss with SIL and hubby. The letter was written in The spur of the moment to make sure the same situation didn't arise again. Whilst writing the letter in the car I asked FIL if he wanted me on, and I would not be offended if not, he said yes, I asked if he was sure- he said yes therefore I put me on. Then he handed letter in. I emailed SIL the letter. Hubby was in the car when all this happened.

OP posts:
IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 09/08/2018 12:35

I love Hippo's letter. It's perfect.
Fil owes it to you to say he wants your involvement to sil, since he seems to constantly ask you for help and not just throw you under the bus because she is bossy! If he won't do this, then he doesn't deserve for you to put yourself out so much, for his convenience. And let sil do the donkey work, since she resents you so much!

I also agree with pp and think it is not on to live in another country for more than half the year and continue to use nhs resources. Hr should use his home countries healthcare system.

serbska · 09/08/2018 12:43

Why is a man who is capable of working abroad for six months of the year getting all these women involved in his health care?

^This

ASimpleLampoon · 09/08/2018 12:51

Hi OP

Have not read all the comments but have read your updates.

I think you sound lovely but I think you should now step back and let your DH and SIL take over everything related to FIL. Don't be involved. You have four children and your own life to worry about and you have been told clearly that the emotional labour that you willingly and lovingly provided is not wanted or needed. Save yourself some work and use the time this frees up for you for you and your DC.

Yes to going NC with SIL I can see you are at the end of your rope with her. I am also NC with some family members and this is a healthy choice and no reason for anyone to criticise you. You do not owe anyone a relationship with you, whether they share you or your DH's DNA or not. You certainly do not owe anyone a relationship if they are mean to you.

I hope your DH is sticking up for you. I would suggest he handles communication with his family from now on for anything like this, with you keeping communication to social issues and friendly chats only.

Good luck with this. I think you might find that this works out in your favour. Seems you have a full enough life and enough to do without the extra labour.

IsItThatTimeAlready131 · 09/08/2018 12:53

SIL does not view you as family, either close or extended, therefore the 'best' you can hope for from her would be to see you as a friend. If that is the way she sees things then why don't you treat her as a friend too?

We all have the choice over who we are friends with, if she is the kind of person you would be friends with then be her friend, if not then don't.

I know this is over simplifying things as there's your DH and DCs to consider too, but you might be better off backing off from her and letting her drop out of your life if that's what she wants.

As she now seems to want to be involved in your FILs (medical) care it would be easier for you and your husband to let her handle it. She could succeed and everything will be OK, or she may flounder and make a (bit of a) mess, then the family involved might appreciate what you have been doing in the past.

Advice79 · 09/08/2018 12:56

Thank you so much asimplelampoon, I think the majority of people are right in the sense that I need to step away from this situation, and NC would not be unreasonable. My DH has been great in all of this, and is very supportive of my decision in this. X

OP posts:
girlywhirly · 09/08/2018 12:57

I think in a way, you have been done a favour. You can concentrate on your coming baby and the rest of your DC. I wonder how long SIL will stick at sorting out FIL’s appointments and prescriptions. Obviously we don’t know the state of FIL’s health, but at some point he will not be able to manage as he is doing with the travel and living in two countries.

You can have as much or as little contact with anyone, family or not. Sil’s loss if she sees less of her brother and the children, and you even less. You can all become busy, and have other things on, or be unavailable. For times when you usually would be together e.g. festivals, you can say you are just having the day at home as a family no guests and no visiting.

I think FIL should be taught how to email and text. If I was DH, I’d be sorting this out. If he had been organising his own healthcare this particular family disagreement would have been avoided.

Swipe left for the next trending thread