To think schools shouldn't teach religion as absolute fact?

[PoesyCherish]

DSD is 6 and is learning about Christianity in school. They're teaching her Jesus is the Son of God rather than "some people believe he is". Everything about the religion is taught as fact. They've also failed to mention anything about any other religion.

AIBU to think they shouldn't be teaching it as absolute fact? How are children supposed to be understanding and tolerant of other people's beliefs if they're taught one world view as fact?

But worshipping the same God isn't just want what Abrahamic faiths are about

I'm not sure what gave you this idea, tbh... The Catholic saints, the catechism, the hierarchy etc are uniquely Catholic. I mean, there's also orthodox Christianity but whether that is more ethical according to a most modern / secular perspectives is imo doubtable... And there are still some key differences.

And those key differences are worth supporting and paying money to men who rape children?

No, sorry. No respect for that.

I don't think anybody is asking you to respect the religion in itself.

But would you tell (just an example) orthodox Christians to just become... a unitarian universalist? Or support the CofE? (There are huge issues in regards to human rights in orthodox Christianity as well.)

Or a Mormon that any other branch of Christianity would do as well?

It seems to me like you're just not able or willing to understand the role (or the problem) of faith.

Why do you believe that faiths (as long as there's the same God) are just interchangeable? What do you base this relief on?

And those key differences are worth supporting and paying money to men who rape children

I was actually talking about doctrine, the head of the church, the role of said head, liturgy, the very nature of God etc.

I base this ‘relief’ on literally NOTHING being more important than not giving your money to child rapists

So if you have to stand in a church who prefer their hats less pointy, aren’t quite so full on about everything from masturbation to child molestation being part of the same ‘sin’ and don’t call victims of assault ‘temptations of the flesh’ then so be it, if it means you’re not funding abuse

But @Cantankerous you're effectively asking a follower of Islam to instead follow Christianity or a Jew to follow Islam. If the only basis is that it's the same God, then what's the problem with instead of sending your Muslim child to a Muslim school, you instead send them to a CofE school. After all, they are both Abrahamic Gods.

No, I’m asking anyone, anywhere, not to fund peadophiles.

And that to be the absolute benchmark of ‘shit you do today’

And actually it’s like asking a Muslim who supports a sect of Islam who believe in stoning, torturing and burning people to worship at a mosque where those things aren’t funded and supported.

Wholeheartedly agree with you OP

Hm. To use your Muslim example.

Do you have the standard of "not supported in this mosque" (as far as worshippers know) or "not supported by other mosques or religious leaders from that sect" (as far as people belonging to that sect know)?

Irrelevant.

EVERYONE knows what the Catholic Church did. Everyone.

Particularly those well educated enough to be ranting on MN about their right to be Catholics.

You cannot feign ignorance, everyone know.

My question isn't about feigning ignorance.

And actually it’s like asking a Muslim who supports a sect of Islam who believe in stoning, torturing and burning people to worship at a mosque where those things aren’t funded and supported.

Would you ask them to not worship in a mosque that supports stoning (or torturing, burning - to use your examples)?

Would you ask them to not belong to/support a sect who has religious leaders who support or condone these attrocities?

I am not ‘asking’ anyone to do anything. I am stating I have absolutely no respect for people who do.

So yes, if you expect me to respect your choices, don’t use those choices to fund abuse.

I'm not talking about my choices. I'm genuinely interested in your reasoning and opinions.

So, to once again use the example you mentioned:

Would an in your opinion respectable choice mean to not frequent and/or support a mosque that supports stoning (or torturing, burning - to use your examples)?

Would an in your opinion respectable choice mean that a Muslim would need to leave a sect if religious leaders of said sect supported or condoned the attrocities you mentioned?

Absolutely. If they had the agency to do so.

Which is the big thing for me, many people don’t have agency to leave various sects and religions. All the middle class MN catholics do though.

ZOMBIE THREAD

I'm not sure she's actually said either way whether she supports the ethos. I'd say it most likely surprised her that any faith school teaches their religion as absolute facts.
I don't know anyone well who follows a faith but wouldn't a Catholic say I BELIEVE XYand Z rather than I KNOW?
I'd guess most couples believe their love will last but they don't know. Even those who say there's no doubt for them surely accept that's faith, not knowing.