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To think schools shouldn't teach religion as absolute fact?

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PoesyCherish · 06/08/2018 13:35

DSD is 6 and is learning about Christianity in school. They're teaching her Jesus is the Son of God rather than "some people believe he is". Everything about the religion is taught as fact. They've also failed to mention anything about any other religion.

AIBU to think they shouldn't be teaching it as absolute fact? How are children supposed to be understanding and tolerant of other people's beliefs if they're taught one world view as fact?

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CantankerousCamel · 09/08/2018 23:51

And again, the entire of islam cannot be compared to one sect of Christianity.

You can compare the whole of Christianity (for better or worse) with the whole of Islam and have a point.

But while you’re bleating about ‘all the Muslims’ you’re just showing how completely incapable of rational thought you are.

MariaMadita · 09/08/2018 23:55

The worst places on earth to live as a gay man or a woman are Catholic countries

Not some Catholic countries. Catholic countries. I have made a few examples that imo clearly show that your argument of Catholic countries being the worst for women and homosexuals is simple incorrect.

And now you move the goal poast to say "look, some Catholic countries are bad for women or homosexuals as well..."

Which I would agree with. But that's not what you initially claimed. You said that Catholic countries are the worst to be female or homosexual.

moredoll · 09/08/2018 23:57

It's a Catholic school. That's what Catholics believe, that's what the school teaches.
Non denominational schools teach that "Christians believe that Jesus was the son of God".

CantankerousCamel · 09/08/2018 23:59

Maria

Both are correct.

Both are grammarically and factually correct

MariaMadita · 09/08/2018 23:59

Btw, homosexuality is legal in Brazil and Argentina (more than legal, quite equalised...)

The Philippines? Pretty LGBT friendly.

But while you’re bleating about ‘all the Muslims’ you’re just showing how completely incapable of rational thought you are

I didn't write "all the Muslims"...

lazyhazysummer · 10/08/2018 00:01

You're bleating about "all the catholics" you idiot, you can't group them all together like that. That's like grouping all muslims together as rapists, murderers and terrorists. No different. But carry on with your outrageously bigoted talk. I'm a catholic and i don't give a fuck what you think, i'm probably a better person than you. The majority of us will be no doubt.

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:03

Yes, I am grouping them all together. Because they ALL know what the priests have been up to and how the Catholic Church covered it up. Everybody knows.

I have no respect for the Catholic Church or anyone who chooses to follow it.

lazyhazysummer · 10/08/2018 00:04

Btw i wasn't talking about the whole of Islam, just one section, just like your one section of Christianity. So have you you no disgust at this one section, you know the ones who rape and kill?

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:04

And as explained (three, four times?) it’s very different from talking about ‘all Muslims’
Because you can not compare all Muslims with the followers of one sect of Christianity

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:05

lazy what sect is that?

Dietcoke1001 · 10/08/2018 00:07

If it's a religious school then i guess i would expect that.i guess it is a problem if you dont have any alternative decent schools nearbye.

MariaMadita · 10/08/2018 00:08

what sect is that

Sunni Islam, I suspect.

lazyhazysummer · 10/08/2018 00:09

So going by your logic, if a section of a religion do bad things and obviously all the rest of that religion knows about it, then they are just as bad for following that religion, because they follow it. So that means that the whole of Islam should deserve your derision. You sound bonkers. Grin

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:10

lazy

No. That’s been the opposite of my point.

Have a little re read of the post about pies and slices. You seem very confused.

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:10

Maria

Lazy has never mentioned Sunni Muslims or asked my opinion of them.

MariaMadita · 10/08/2018 00:10

But unlike you I most certainly don't judge a whole "sect" of a religion. There are wonderful Sunnis and absolutely awful ones. Same with Catholics...

MariaMadita · 10/08/2018 00:12

Anyhow, good night. I hope some people read this imo quite interesting... discussion.

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:12

Please show me where the Sunni Mufti’s acknowledged, allowed and justified the rape of children?

lazyhazysummer · 10/08/2018 00:19

Ive never mentioned "sunni muftis". But please show me where catholics have allowed and acknowledged the rape of children. Obviously by that i don't mean bishops etc, just ordinary practicing catholiccs, because i've never met one yet who hasn't been disgusted.

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:35

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases

Not disgusted enough to stop funding the organisation that supports these men who rape children though, yeah?

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 00:36

A Mufti is an Islamic scholar.

lazyhazysummer · 10/08/2018 00:49

I know what one is, i said i've never mentioned one. Are you a hit tired, you sound confused. Btw i don't fund any religion. Btw why are you banding all catholics together, nobody bands all muslims together because of a section of those who commit atrocities. You seem unable to answer that.But you do with catholics, a section of the Christian world. Don't you see how illogical you are. Or is it because something has affected you personally, so to hell to those children who were raped by muslim grooming gangs, because it didn't affect you.

CantankerousCamel · 10/08/2018 02:09

All Muslims
Doesn’t equate to

A sect of Christians.

I am not understanding why I have to keep saying this to you

lazyhazysummer · 10/08/2018 09:22

Ffs, nobody has said ALL muslims. I was talking about extremists. So of course you can compare, so how does abusive catholic priests equate to ALL catholics. A child could understand what i'm saying.

lazyhazysummer · 10/08/2018 09:33

Anyway don't bother answering, i can't be bothered with arguing with such a bigoted, ignorant phobic person as yourself. If this was any other religion other than Catholicism that you're tearing to shreds all your disgusting posts would have been deleted. So argue with yourself you absolute prick.