To be unsurprised that Corbyn is still being called anti-semitic?

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Corbyn has been quite happy over the years to work with those who are clearly anti-Semitic. And he continues to do so. Whilst at the same time saying that he condemns all forms of racism, recently changed to say he condemns anti semitism. Does he not realise yet that people judge him by his actions, not his broad statements which are pretty meaningless? And until he clearly shows in his actions that he condemns anti semitism, these allegations will continue?

I am grateful to the Board of Jewish Deputies for raising this issue though. Before that I was largely ignorant to Israel's despicable treatment of Gaza. This is what we need to be talking about, the use of excessive force against a vulnerable group.

I totally agree about having no one to vote for. If you don’t condemn something then I take it as a general rule you agree.
I am Labour to my bone but will never vote for a Corbyn. I think he is dangerous and has allowed Tories to remain in power because he is more concerned about his own power than the Labour Party.

Tories to remain in power because he is more concerned about his own power than the Labour Party.

Yeah, I man who spent 30 years of the back benches is clearly obsessed with power

One of the longest anti semitism campaigners in politics, organised and attended many protests and marches with Jews against anti semitism dating back decades

Who's that then?

Certainly not Corbyn.

Fine simply dismiss us all as anti Corbyn and reactionary. Great way to address people's concerns.

So commemorating Cable st is not about attacking anti semitism. The anti nazi league were not combatting anti semitism. Okkkkkaày...

Frankly rubbish. And I have been involved in both.

And why won't the Labour party adopt the internationally recognised IHRA definition of anti-Semitism?

They do accept the definition in its majority, but some of the examples restrict legitimate criticism of Israel. That is not anti semitic, and places a limit on free speech.

What is the Tory policy on anti semitism? Anyone?

Cable Street battle was about fighting fascism. Of course fascism involves anti semitism. It also involves fighting homophobia, racism, misogyny. It is not SPECIFICALLY about anti semitism, but a much wider range of issues promoted by fascists.

I can't actually believe these comments. Jews are apparently the only minority unable to acceptably identify racism against them. Three Jewish newspapers representing the feelings of their communities have condemned him. His own MPs are critical. Yes, legitimate criticism of Israel is NOT anti-semitism but many Jews have voiced concern about their position should Corbyn reach power. Their opinions are not unfounded, nor is it right to imply a minority group are inventing their own fears. It's patronising. The fact that you are asking the OP what they've done personally is perhaps the clearest evidence of your prejudice - the OP is not leading a party and proclaiming their non-racist attitudes. What they've done on a personal level is totally irrelevant to a discussion of Corbyn, but misdirecting the thread like that is well, telling. Corbyn has repeatedly shared platforms with anti-semites without objection. He called terrorist attacks in Egypt the 'hand of Israel' and seems to support the idea of Jewish conspiracy. Not to mention the laughable review of anti-semitism by Shami Chakrabarti. He treats Jews with utter contempt. But then, this is not a principled man we're dealing with. Just look at his position on Brexit. How about his failure to expel Livingstone, a clear anti-Semite who made appalling comments about Hitler and Zionism? Plus if you take the internationally accepted definition, you know, the one even groups highly critical of and opposed to Israel accept, Corbyn is very clearly racist.

It's an unfortunate fact that many equate anti-Israel (actions) with antisemitism. About time everyone grew up.

Politicians of all shades have to occasionally be diplomatic and share a platform with people who do not share their views and, frankly, don't like. It's the nature of the job. Corbyn is no different.

Jeremy Corbyn is not antisemitic. He has enemies who want to get rid of him though.

Yes Cable Street was about the fascists marching through an area with a large Jewish population. And it was a member of the Communist Party who organised the opposition.

He treats Jews with utter contempt

and yet the EDM's listed below suggest otherwise but nobody seems to want to acknowledge this!

skwawkbox.org/2018/07/31/corbyns-voting-record-shows-latest-murdoch-press-smear-more-desperate-than-ever/

Ghosto

Are you Jewish? Guessing not. Personally I listen to the views of Jewish people and the rep from the Jewish council of Britain in radio 5 this morning said he felt *that the Labour Party were at war with the Jewish people’

Do I think Corbyn is anti Semitic?? No he’s just a protest politician who always met terrorists and agitators and has spent a life time protesting against everything.

He has no firm principals so is being manipulated by anyone who wants to. At the moment it’s momentum.

Sadly labour is floundering as it did under Foot. Google that if you are too young.

Hopefully he will piss off soon and we will get a credible sensible leader. It may take a while but we have done it before.

The most awful awful response is ‘the Tories are worse’

Fucking disgraced attitude. Labour should be better, much much much better.

Fine simply dismiss us all as anti Corbyn and reactionary.

I'm not dismissing you, but I would like you to back up what you're saying with facts and hystrionics.

It's really sad that what was a genuine issue has been overtaken with political point scoring. I find Corbyn's response far more dignified than those that continue to shout, despite having long lost sight of whatever they were shouting about in the first place.

OP, you should know MN lurves Corbyn and will defend him and Labour to the hilt.

You are right and if he wasn't anti semitic then why is he apologising?

And of course we have all the Corbyn supporters here basically saying it’s all a plot/press/smears/untrue/

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

Apologists for racists you are.

whatever they were shouting about in the first place

Do you mean the Jewish council????

Thanks neshoma

And for those questioning this, there are lots of times he has been on platforms or hosted meetings for people who are anti semitic. I don't believe for a minute that he would do the same if those same people were openly racist against black people.
And yes comparing Israel to the Nazis is anti semitic. Talking about jewish conspiracies is anti semitic. Talking about the blood libel is anti semitic.
Corbyn is so keen to cosy up to anyone who is critical of Israel that he does not discriminate against those who are critical at least in part, because of anti semitism. I don't think he is anti semitic, I do think he is a bit thick.

He’s apologising because he met his little anti Jewish mates on hollocaust Memorial Day.

Even he knows that’s bad. Utter twat.

Never though would see the day labour are as disgusting as the Tories. Bad times

I am Labour to my bone but will never vote for a Corbyn

Completely agree.

Not sure linking to the very bias Skwakbox helps anyone.

Hopefully he will piss off soon and we will get a credible sensible leader. It may take a while but we have done it before.

Absolutely

Three Jewish newspapers representing the feelings of their communities have condemned him

Look at the political leanings of the paper editors and think about their stance. The same for the Board of Deputies.

This is nothing new. In 2006 the JC editor was quoted as saying that the "Left, in any recognisable form, is now the enemy".

You've really riled up the Momentum bots now, OP! They don't want anyone to see the true face of the far left.

He’s apologising because he met his little anti Jewish mates on hollocaust Memorial Day.

You do realise that Hajo Meyer is a Jew?

How awkward!

You do realise that Corbyn's Pro Palestine stance might be problematic to those who are Pro Israel (usually on the right)? And that some - using the media might seek to discredit him because of this.

According to posters here (who say fuck all about Islamophobia and ignore Corbyn's voting records and activism against the likes of apartheid South Africa) the media or his political enemies could never run campaigns against JC. Oh no that would never happen.

The group Jeremy Corbyn hosted in Parliament on Holocaust Memorial Day contributed to the Chakrabarti report. In their submission they claim antisemitism doesn’t exist in Britain today.