Can i (a dad) get my toddlers Vaccination jabs done without the mothers consent?

[TheUnknowner]

Basically what it says in the title.

My soon to be wife is dead against it as she believes all that crap on the Internet about it causing autism etc

I called the doctors and she told me i would need her consent but to be honest she sounded like she just wanted to get me off the phone or maybe didn't actually know.

He is 2 in a few weeks and honestly i forgot all about it until something reminded me.

Surely being the dad i should be able to get it done i doubt she would need my consent if it was the other way around right?

I genuinely cannot believe people are telling you to get it done behind her back.

I don't agree and think it is an incredibly deceitful thing to do. I would feel that whether it was Mother or Father doing it behind the other parents back and against their wishes.

Totally agree with all of names post.

I'm always shocked by these threads. To get them done without one parent's consent is a huge betrayal of trust. Some children have bad reactions to vaccines. What will you say to her mother if that happens?

I'm not anti vax either, my kids are all up to date with their shots. But there are much more appropriate ways of dealing with this situation.

HPV cancer and not just DD. DS will get them too I will pay privately. Everyone seems to overlook that -HPV vaccine girls but not boys..........

bertielab Boys will be included in the NHS HPV vaccination programme from (I think) 2020. I think I am right in saying that the UK will be the first country to do this.

hotto I, too am very sorry that your child has these conditions, but you really cannot blame it on vaccinations.
I once attended a lecture by Andrew Wakefield and sitting in a room of over 250 medics/gastroenterologists was shocked by the general outrage and head shaking at his so called ‘research’
He has since been struck off and discredited for unethical behaviour and fraud.

Are the anti vaxxers in this thread themselves vaccinated? Are they walking around protected while denying their own children the same protection? And if they are vaccinated are they autistic? If not then why is that not evidence of the vaccines safety? They seem perfectly happy to take on board “ evidence” of one autistic child who was vaccinated against the weight of all the medical research and hundreds of thousands of vaccinated children who have not developed autism. It’s the absolute worse form of confirmation bias ( and it’s not as if they are endangering themselves it’s other people who suffer) PS and wasn’t SIDS often referred to historically as cot death?

hottotrosky my dc2 was not vaccinated nor was her cousin because the triple wasn't being used at that time both of them are within the spectrum dc2 has dyspraxia poor short term memory organisational problems verbal dyspraxia ADD (ie dreamy inattentive type) dd1 no probs ds (no 3 child) was vaccinated no problems - kennedy in the usa is prime anti vax because of his child BUT Rosemary Kennedy (his aunt/great aunt?) probably was within spectrum & her father Joseph Kennedy had the poor girl lobotomized to control her. There is serious research which is pointing to the about the age of 18month to 2 years where the neurons in the child's brain normally start "culling" extra brain cells to allow the other braincells to be able to make more complex connections but it has been shown that there is evidence that this "culling" does may occur in children within the spectrum hence some of the multiple difficulties caused by lack of interconnection between various parts of brain, memory & social learning. I know how difficult it is to have to deal with these problems & you do have my sympathy. for me my way of dealing was academic research & you would be surprised how many researcher on autism have children within the spectrum - or maybe not! I would never personally attack people (except the odd troll & we did have one!) but I will always stand by what I have learnt against some of the frightening inaccurate and dangerous information.

Both of. Une have autism and I'd still give them their childhood immunisations. Many of this diseases kill.

DS1 won't allow anyone to give him his teen jabs, but that's a different bridge to cross and his aversion has nothing to do with tinfoil hattery.

I really do wish more people would turn to academic research, lots of research, to make up their minds about this very contentious issue.
I’m a little surprised that this ‘debate ‘ is still going on tbh.
Vaccines are something of a modern miracle.
We have eradicated many diseases, eg we no longer see smallpox.
It took until the 80’s (would you believe) but if we still had it about 2 million people would die annually.

Tinfoil hattery! 👍

I don't see the problem with him going behind her back to get them done. Least his kid won't contract deadly diseases this way. The poor little moron is just going to have to suck it up and maybe learn to read some valid research rather than some of the nonsense being said on this thread and world wide.

If it was a woman asking 'should I defy my husband and get vaccinations done', everyone would be saying yes and throwing parades for her standing up to her husband. Its no different here. The female partner is a complete idiot for this stance. She has no real reason to stop her child having vaccinations and there is no reason he shouldn't get them. She thinks her kid will get autism from them, come on. You need to go back to school if you can fall for that bullshit.

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How come MN let you pro vax group thinkers insult so freely posters who even dare to HINT at a healthy scepticism re. the vaccination paradigm?"
vaccinations are so important. They are crucial.

Oh and back to the sids/vaccinations thing, correlation does not = causation as a point said. Unless you're implying causation, what point are you making. Lovely to know they correlate, a lot of stuff does.

@Powerless

Stop lying.

Provide a link to the NHS resource you found that you used to draw your meaningless correlation.

And a link to the NHS resource that, you claim, says no safety studies have been done on vaccines in decades.

Go on. Provide the links or continue to be a liar.

@powerless

Personally I do not give a flying shiny turd about arguing the toss with anybody about this!

Tough. Someone could read your post and decide not to vax their kid because of it and suffer untold damage.

"How come MN let you pro vax group thinkers insult so freely posters who even dare to HINT at a healthy scepticism re. the vaccination paradigm?"

Otherwise known as the non batshit insane.

You are equal parents and have equal rights. You need to find a way through this that isn't forceful and deceitful.

You can't compromise on this. The child is either vaccinated or they are not. There is no middle ground. And if you can't agree, either the parent who wants the child vaccinated goes behind the other parent's back (or gets a court order), or the other parent gets their way and the child remains unvaccinated (and could catch and die of a preventable illness at any time).

Sometimes you just have to put your child's health and safety above the feelings of the stupid other parent.

Its shocking how staggeringly different the replies are since its the father who has posted about vaccinating and its the mother thats against instead of mother for and father against

How come MN let you pro vax group thinkers insult so freely posters who even dare to HINT at a healthy scepticism re. the vaccination paradigm?"

Because they deserve it?

I'm always shocked by these threads. To get them done without one parent's consent is a huge betrayal of trust

It never even occurred to me to ask my partner for consent. But then I wouldn't have had children with a mad anti vaxxer

& because the anti vax is based on a faulty premise with fake information & this false information endangers children's lives

You should be able to ring up and book them in - don’t mention it and if they ask just say she’s agreed. I would take your child - I’d be fucking fuming as an adult to think my mother was reading Internet crap with a tin foil hat on putting my health at risk and if my father was compliant in that I’d be furious with him too for allowing such nonsense.

I was just reading this before I saw your post actually - I’d hate to be living with a mad anti vaxxer so hats off it must be fucking trying that.
ascienceenthusiast.com/20-times-the-internet-shut-down-anti-vaxxers-using-science/

I didn’t need permission from dh to have ds vaccinated and he didn’t need permission from me when he took ds because I was at work.

Vaccinations are vitally important and the anti vaxxers are relying on herd immunity to keep their kids safe anyway, whilst putting at risk those who can’t be vaccinated for whatever reason. It’s supremely selfish and arrogant not to vaccinate.

Wakefield has so much to answer for I’d be banned if I expressed in words just what I think should be done to him. The Americans in particular have fallen for his bullshit fake research and the internet is now crawling with anti vaxxers and they spread and spread their brainless misinformation.

Wakefield has so much to answer for I’d be banned if I expressed in words just what I think should be done to him. The Americans in particular have fallen for his bullshit fake research and the internet is now crawling with anti vaxxers and they spread and spread their brainless misinformation

Here’s hoping his new relationship doesn’t give him another platform to start spouting his shite from.

Last thing the world needs is anti vaccination to become bloody trendy.

You’re protecting your DC from a potentially horrible death and your DW from losing a child.
You’re absolutely doing the right thing.

I’d find it tough to be married to someone so dogmatic though. Why doesn’t your DW think your views matter?

What is a huge problem here and may account for some gender differences.

Blokes tend to avoid doctors so it’s unlikely if the bloke was anti that the doctors would know about it.

In the last thread like this that was the case.

This doctors do know because Mum has told them.

That means the surgery can’t do them.

I think doing it behind her back is wrong and I’d say the same if the sexes are reversed. I do vaccinate my kids but I don’t think sneaking is the right way to do it. Ask her to discuss it with the GP and if she still is against it go for a court order and be prepared for the possibility of the relationship being over.