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Can i (a dad) get my toddlers Vaccination jabs done without the mothers consent?

295 replies

TheUnknowner · 31/07/2018 00:02

Basically what it says in the title.

My soon to be wife is dead against it as she believes all that crap on the Internet about it causing autism etc

I called the doctors and she told me i would need her consent but to be honest she sounded like she just wanted to get me off the phone or maybe didn't actually know.

He is 2 in a few weeks and honestly i forgot all about it until something reminded me.

Surely being the dad i should be able to get it done i doubt she would need my consent if it was the other way around right?

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ImADadButThatsOKIsntIt · 31/07/2018 21:59

I have done about 80% of the vaccines and never been asked once if DW consented. I also took nephew and wasn't asked either. Do it but expect fireworks and future DW to become Stupid Bitch Ex Fiancée

ExFury · 31/07/2018 22:03

Yeah you are right i should've mentioned her brother has very severe autism

Is that blamed on vaccines in her family by any chance?

StealthPolarBear · 31/07/2018 22:05

But you'll need more than one appointment. So the argument that she'll find out but it'll be too late won't work.

ExFury · 31/07/2018 22:05

Also, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) only began to occur after Vaccinations came about. Now these are absolute facts..... Bloody interesting facts hmm

SIDS is what babies dying without explanation may have only been what it’s been called since then, but it’s ceetainky been happening longer.

Have a look bad on old infant death certificates for “silent pneumonia” and the catch all “apparent natural causes” or “sleep sickness” and you’ll see that it’s always happened.

Genevieva · 31/07/2018 22:07

Take her and forget the red book. It isn't uncommon for parents to forget the book and the nurse write all the details on the baby's computer records. You will, however, need to go back at the allotted times for the booster jabs and, as you are out of sink, you will need to work out when these should be. If your wife finds out, remind her of the many thousands of children who used to die of the diseases that children are now routinely vaccinated against less than 100 years ago. You are the Dad. Your say is as important as hers. Your say is more mainstream and there is no logical justification of her view on this matter. Once your baby grows up, she can choose a non-mainstream approach if she wants, but while she is a vulnerable little thing, the responsible thing to do is vaccinate her. Have you talked about the vaccinations older children get, like the HPV vaccine?

Is your wife really suggesting she would rather risk your daughter getting cervical cancer? If she went on holiday to India, would your wife advocate that your daughter not get a yellow fever vaccination? Perhaps she should do a bit more research about the wonders that vaccinations have achieved, such as wiping out smallpox. This would be make or break for me. If you are unwilling to get your child vaccinated behind your wife's back, then do your own reading and argue with her until she understands that she has been sucked in by pseudo-science.

StealthPolarBear · 31/07/2018 22:09

There are more stork nests at periods of high birth rate

YodelOdel · 31/07/2018 22:13

OP I am glad you are trying to get your child vaccinated.

We live in Leeds and there have been several outbreaks of measles over the years, I believe the latest one we were warned about (by school via letter) was back in April/May time.

The outbreak occurred in Bradford which is close enough. It gives us a list of symptoms and what to do if we suspect someone has it. It basically says do not leave the house, we will come to you as it is so dangerous and contagious.

My Dad's brother died of polio back in the 1940's. Very sad. He was a baby.

I am sure the lovely Dr Chris on This Morning lost the plot with some anti-vax celebrity spouting nonsense plus an American Doctors show also did the same again with some air-head celebrity anti-vaxer. Misinformation everywhere. It is easy to see why some people get swayed when they don't look for the counter-argument.

bertielab · 31/07/2018 22:14

I had measles as a child -it bloody nearly killed me. (no vaccine available then!) I was ridiculously ill -mine have had everything going and both sexes will get the cancer vaccine - HPV cancer and not just DD. DS will get them too I will pay privately. Everyone seems to overlook that -HPV vaccine girls but not boys..........

You need to ensure the children are in good health and monitor them closely afterwards. You may want to wait for 20 minutes or so after and have calpol on hand. Vaccine is a dead form of the virus.

NameWithChamge · 31/07/2018 22:15

I genuinely cannot believe people are telling you to get it done behind her back.

I don't agree and think it is an incredibly deceitful thing to do. I would feel that whether it was Mother or Father doing it behind the other parents back and against their wishes.

You are equal parents and have equal rights. You need to find a way through this that isn't forceful and deceitful.

For the record, my kids have all had them done, I'm not anti them.

But a friends brother did have a reaction in childhood and has had to be cared for all his life - it does happen. How would you feel if that was the outcome?

I honestly can't imagine successful parenting going forward between the 2 of you if you treat her opinion with such contempt.

BedtimeTea · 31/07/2018 22:16

I would have just taken my kids in for them and not told my dp.

hottotrotsky · 31/07/2018 22:29

If I was your DS's mother I'd kick you to the kerb in the blink of an eye if you allowed him to be injected with shit at a tender age against my wishes.

You are an entitled unmentionable.

AjasLipstick · 31/07/2018 22:31

Hott And I'm sure that if you were my partner I'd kick you to the kerb for being so ignorant and stupid. AND I'd still get my child vaccinated.

Blaablaablaa · 31/07/2018 22:34

@hot and you'd rather a child be at risk of death from diseases that can be vaccinated against? Not to mention the risks posed to wider society?

hottotrotsky · 31/07/2018 22:50

Ajas ya boo sucks you're reply is beyond immature and Blaa. Indeed. Blaa.

I have a vaccinated child riddled with ADHD, allergies and genera ill health versus a non vaccinated one bursting with vitality and an immaculate immune system. Not empirical I hear you indoctrinated bores cry. To me it bloody is.

How come MN let you pro vax group thinkers insult so freely posters who even dare to HINT at a healthy scepticism re. the vaccination paradigm?

AjasLipstick · 31/07/2018 22:52

Your child's conditions are nothing to do with vaccination Hot Those things happen anyway.

Blaablaablaa · 31/07/2018 22:56

I'm sorry you have a child that is ill...that is sad and must be difficult for you. However, it is in no way related to vaccines. You say indoctrinated, I say educated - by people who study and research immunology.

The only indoctrination I see is the anti-vaxxer's and their psuedo-science. I know who's opinion I trust most.

Blaablaablaa · 31/07/2018 22:58

And I'm sure MN allow pro-vaxxers opinions because they are right. The opposite is just dangerous....very dangerous

Powerless · 31/07/2018 23:05

Ok - mass reply to all the angry people tagging me!

I did NOT find an Anti-Vax section on NHS website.
-I found dates & stats on when SIDS became a thing

  • I found dates & stats on when Vaccinations became a thing

They correlated!

Personally I do not give a flying shiny turd about arguing the toss with anybody about this! My child has been vaccinated and will continue to be. Now PLEASE STOP tagging me!!!!!!

I am trying to bloody sleep!

marvellousnightforamooncup · 31/07/2018 23:08

Also, Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) only began to occur after Vaccinations came about. Now these are absolute facts..... Bloody interesting facts hmm

Before decent healthcare was available children died all the time of all sorts of things, measles, diphtheria, TB etc, not always diagnosed. It is only since infant death has become more uncommon largely due to vaccination that SIDS has become a thing we need to understand and stop happening.

CheshireChat · 31/07/2018 23:09

hottotrotsky Both parents have equal rights so ultimately there's no way you could prevent the father from vaccinating his own child, of course you could separate afterwards but that's irrelevant.

Blaablaablaa · 31/07/2018 23:15

Powerless ....so some dates correlated but that's it? There is not a correlation between vaccinations and SIDS. I don't think you understand how correlation works in an academic, research sense. Whether you meant to or not you spouted some anti-vaxx propaganda. You can't be surprised at the reaction surely??

AjasLipstick · 31/07/2018 23:18

powerless turn off your notifications. And SIDS has always been "a thing" it just wasn't named or recognised. Babies have always died in their sleep sadly.

FamilyLawsolicitor · 31/07/2018 23:18

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KitchenFloor · 31/07/2018 23:26

Has he not had any vaccinations yet?

Jux · 31/07/2018 23:29

Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION.

So what if there's a correlation between two things? It means nothing. Read Stephen Jay Gould on correlation, he's very funny.