To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

[LittleNapRefuser]

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

Oh for god's sake.

Yes, those of us who can afford to not take a calculator to the supermaket to make sure we come under budget can also afford not to worry. But do we still have to insist on having so little imagination as to belittle those who, for whatever reason, are in the situation where a 5, 10% price increase in the weekly shop would mean having to do without essentials? This is the UK today. People able to live day-to-day, within what's predictable, but not able to make contingency plans to accommodate small incremental increases in daily expenses, where if you run out of deodorant unexpectedly early it's a big deal, where we have period poverty, where a parent has to go to bed hungry.

I've never gone hungry a day in my life and I can bloody believe this so I have sympathy. Why dismiss this as scaremongering?

How do people have the gall to talk on behalf of those living through the postwar years when they likely weren't bloody there and don't have the right to unilaterally decide it's ok if scores of people are suddenly consigned to being more tired, energyless and anxious every day? These conditions are not extensively detailed in social history but this doesn't mean this isn't a very real and important result of food shortages. And then how can you use that to argue that people already worrying about money, having a legitimate excuse to worry that it'll get significantly worse, are overdramatising things? I'd rather measure a civilisation as such by the minimum of 'not letting people go hungry' rather than 'avoiding there being mass deaths', of which there indeed admittedly were not in the 50s, but I guess we have different yardsticks...

As I said earlier I doubt we will starve and the EU and the UK will hopefully rush at the last moment to ensure we don’t go off a cliff even if the worse happens and a no deal happens, but I am worried for UK’s prospects long term.

oh for heavens sake , get a grip

"Ain'tnothing" - "absolute carnage is coming... " how the fuck is that helping ANYONE?! Absolute scaremongering as you have no IDEA if that is true or not. Nobody knows what will happen next, not even you.

I have some grips for sale if anyone needs to get one.

Oh and I voted Remain by the way. Just refuse to run around shouting carnage is coming, what have you done" ad infinitum

rainbow we don't know the degree of disruption, true, but we know for sure that no deal = disruption. You can't argue against that.

Mission - hope it's a big bag, get them handed out quick! Maybe some paper bags for people to breathe in and out of slowly too.

rainbow can you tell me how it’s all going to be ok? No. You can’t. I’m not scaremongering just stating a fact.
Voting to leave the EU was a mistake of epic proportions and we will all reap the ‘benefits ‘

We should NOT be in the position of "not knowing" what will happen post Brexit full stop. That is a total joke. People should never be left in a vacuum like that ever, it is just so cruel to so many.

If things were so great in the Sunny Uplands, surely there would be plans for Exit Parties up and down the country, and flag waving and cheers, and a countdown to the end date by now.

Surely......!

OP I started the other thread about stockpiling, because I’ve been growing increasingly concerned by what I’ve been seeing on/reading in the news and I wanted to know if I was BU to be so worried. I was overwhelmed by the response and see that lots of other people feel the same.
I’d agree with what others have said. Make a list of what you would deem essential items for your family day to day and then look to buy maybe 1-2 items per week with your normal shop. Even if space is tight you could still store the odd few bits under the bed, on top of wardrobe etc, it doesn’t all need to be together in one place. I hope it won’t be needed and I’ll just be able to use it up bit by bit after Brexit, but I know if nothing else having a small stock of items will help me feel less panicked and more prepared X

Oh for God’s sake. There was life before the EU you know. We lived perfectly happily for years until we were duped into signing up by Ted Heath telling us we were saying yes to just a Common Market. The trouble is, most on here have never known life outwith Europe.

Umm something DID happen. People worked tirelessly in the years before hand to make sure it didn’t happen. It didn’t happen because some of the brightest minds worked to make sure it didn’t.

No it was way overblown and was all patched up long before the hysteria took hold, as for brightest minds, yeah we do like that term but it was running patches onto servers and code monkeys checking for hard coded date values, we could just demand more money because of the hysteria around it all, a lot of people made stupid money off the back of the mass hysteria peddled from the papers, remember the Y2K Ready stickers on stupid things?

If social media was as prevalent then as it is now their would be the same ridiculous overblown threads about Y2K as we are seeing about Brexit and prepping etc.

MissionItsPossible ..if we all made grips from now until the reputed Doomsday mercilessly crashes upon us destroying polite British civilisation as we know it, there still wouldn't be enough to quell the tide of the incipient MN mass hysteria. Kool aid anyone?

Alexa really? Words fail me

Biscuits now being handed out. Maybe we should save them for any future biscuit shortages.

We got on perfectly well before we joined the controlling boy's club the EU, and we will get on perfectly fine when we leave, and we will be £350 million a week better off. Leaving cannot come soon enough.

Get a grip FFS, and quit the scaremongering!

What a ridiculous display of childish histrionics.

Surely it’s not beyond imagining that there will be a period of limbo while all this is established and, that during this time, there will be shortages and prices increases as JIT supply chains adjust to these new circumstances?

Yes, this!

The short-term casualties are not noted by history, but that doesn't mean their omission should be taken as precedent to prove that potential similar suffering is not real and should not be anticipated, taken seriously and regretted. Is No Deal really worth it if 10, 100, 500 families take an extreme hit for a decade? If 100 kids go without dinner for 5 years? If they then underperform at school? If their parents then have to work flat out just to put food on the table and don't get the chance to pursue their own personal life goals? What are you saying, really.
(And events are not recorded wrt criteria that is taken as 'serious' when considered against what are established as absolute truths - look at the 1918 flu outbreak that's usually mentioned a historical sidenote, if at all, but claimed millions of lives.)

Quietrebel

Thats true, but if you was to read the many brexit threads on here a lot of people where previously popping up saying that we would be without insulin etc etc.

It is ramping up the hysteria.

As for insulin and other drugs:

Novo Nordisk tweeted this this morning.

twitter.com/novonordisk/status/1023244554630299648

So there is an element of people who are trying to ramp up the fear and then share pointless change.org petitions.

I think the hints about stockpiling are designed to manage our expectations. If we are whipped into believing it'll be Mad Max, with food shortages and riots, then we will be placated when it is "only" a 10% increase in our shopping bill.

I'm old enough to remember the hysteria about y2k, can you imagine all the thread's that would have been started about that if MN or an equivalent was a thing? We'd have had poster after poster doing the exact same thing as on the Brexit threads, telling us how it was the end of the world as we know it, I remember how everyone was saying that nothing would work, everything would cease to work and we'd be back to absolute basics.

lindalee Totally agree.

@AlexaAmbidextra

Oh for God’s sake. There was life before the EU you know. We lived perfectly happily for years until we were duped into signing up by Ted Heath telling us we were saying yes to just a Common Market. The trouble is, most on here have never known life outwith Europe.

Well said Alexa. Some people are so pathetic it makes me laugh. What a load of ridiculous drama queens. How do they cope with real life day to day FFS?!

As a few posters have said, there is lots of hysteria and scaremongering being whipped up by people DESPERATE for us to stay in the EU, because THEY benefit from it. They can fuck right off. There is not ONE single reason to stay, NOT ONE, and we are leaving so suck it up.