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To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

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LittleNapRefuser · 28/07/2018 20:26

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

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rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 23:29

Ski - sounds like a plan! I want one. I'll stock mine with pinot grigio, diet Coke, plenty of snacks and stuff to read. If I've got books and wine I'm happy Grin

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 23:33

Sorry, this is so garbled I am bewildered - what are you saying?

You stated that Brexit was a far right wing issue, you whatabouted with JRM, Boris and Farage and ignored the ~60% of vote a red rose on a donkey constituents as voting leave, thats before we get into JC public voting record and collectives sucah as Morning star backed brexit.

All you have offered so far is that you're political stance is not true labour and brush everything else under the carpet because we can make blanket statements of being far right

Glaciferous · 29/07/2018 23:34

I would like to know what indept means, btw. I've tried to work it out. Are you trying to do the opposite of adept or something? Or is it meant to be inept?

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 23:36

It's not actually an article, it's a video. But the point remains. We make no insulin in the UK, as confirmed by the head of the MHRA

And yet one of our major suppliers of insulin has said they are not worried about the situation.

Where does this fall in the category of not believing experts?

AbsentmindedWoman · 29/07/2018 23:37
Confused

Me? Justanotherlurker I think you have me confused with another poster.

I have literally not posted anything you have just said. Advance search me if you like.

AbsentmindedWoman · 29/07/2018 23:39

The insulin supplier will continue to produce the insulin.

They have no say in whether it gets caught up in delays at Dover.

This is getting tedious now.

keyboardkate · 30/07/2018 00:39

Absent.

Your confidence about the supply of meds should not come from a randomer on the internet either.

AbsentmindedWoman · 30/07/2018 00:51

Keyboardkate, what randomer on the internet? Do you mean all the folks saying it'll be ok?

I will be setting aside a bit of spare insulin for myself. Even if everything goes without the tiniest of hitches (unlikely) I will definitely use it all as it's dated a couple of years ahead.

I'm optimistic that the UK government will try to hammer out a deal to bring insulin into this country. It could take some time to work out the details of new regulations for import but I am hopeful it will be a priority along with other essential medications.

I think the risk lies in timeframes when it comes to that supply rotating out of the country it is manufactured in and into the UK. How much time will it take to get the ball rolling?

For now, I am trying not to think of situations where the NHS has to buy insulin and other drugs at much higher prices because we'll be basically held hostage, and long term implications of that. There's zero I can do about that.

But I can reasonably pop another couple of insulin vials in my fridge, so I will be doing that.

bellinisurge · 30/07/2018 06:18

"Thanks to this thread I got sucked in to watching loads of strange American preppers showing people round their fully kitted our bunkers on YouTube!! It was both worrying, and like Through the Keyhole (just with more guns and canned goods)"
Hope you also looked at at Prepper Pot Pourri and Prepper Princess and Praxis Prepper (hilarious).
Helpful and reasonable (for Americans Grin)

BadderWolf · 30/07/2018 07:07

Thanks for the vaseline tip RedToothBrush Grin

And now for some light reading to accompany ones imported morning coffee:
news.sky.com/story/public-opinion-is-shifting-sharply-against-brexit-sky-data-poll-reveals-11453220

AllIHaveToDo · 30/07/2018 08:36

Specifically for Justanother - Nope you said brexit is a far right issue, and instead of taking my points head on you are backtracking.

Here's what I said yesterday:

*For Justanother - the Leave campaign was made up of far-right wingers. Yes left wingers too can be eurosceptic. It's a cross party conundrum. But the Leave campaign whipped up fear about Turkey and the Middle East - I remember that leaflet I got posted through my door telling me the reasons we should vote Leave. And that wasn't down to left-wing eurosceptics. It was down to the far-right. Ffs are you always so obtuse?

I think 'the real far right' have already taken a hold, hence Brexit*

You must be a complete and utter moron if you think the Leave campaign wasn't spear headed by far-right campaigners. You must also live in a delusional bubble if you think we would have a referendum to leave the EU and right wing mindsets wouldn't jump at the chance to vote leave. Not everyone who voted Leave is right wing, a concept most people can understand. But the fact is the Leave group was fronted by far right wingers, hence my original post that the far right have already taken a hold, hence Brexit. Now stop being a dumbass, twisting my words and making up shit to suit your agenda you tunnel-visioned moron. Clearly you are as narrow minded and obtuse as you portray on here. You really should pass a comprehension test before you consider responding to people.

AllIHaveToDo · 30/07/2018 08:45

To the people who get confused by Lurkers posts. Don't worry if you can't understand them, I've found every single one of them to contain a riddle of some description. I feel like it's a secret code I've got to try and crack. Respecting Twitter posts....? Confused Ok then Confused

Justanotherlurker · 30/07/2018 08:47

But the fact is the Leave group was fronted by far right wingers

I think your political compass is somewhat off, you are using the term Far right very liberally and I asked for you to explain.

Clearly you are as narrow minded and obtuse as you portray on here. You really should pass a comprehension test before you consider responding to people.

Good comeback, if in doubt go for personal attacks.

I'm not the one who is narrow minded and my comprehension is fine thanks all the same, but you can have a gold star all the same. Well done you!

Justanotherlurker · 30/07/2018 08:51

Respecting Twitter posts....? confused Ok then confused

Of course, we shouldn't take Novo Nordisk at their word (your words) regarding inulin as it doesn't fit our political narrative.

Don't listen to experts

AllIHaveToDo · 30/07/2018 11:21

Yawn Lurker. Bore Off!

rainbowsandsmiles · 30/07/2018 12:17

Love the way that the response to my perfectly valid points can only be replied to by personal attacks. Kind of says it all really!

rainbowsandsmiles · 30/07/2018 12:18

Damn phone, just anotherlurker points. Not me.

rainbowsandsmiles · 30/07/2018 12:26

It's honestly comical. Please, we listening. Please, all ears. Faux innocence. Replies, bit of ridicule. Explains reply, personal attack. Farcical.

rainbowsandsmiles · 30/07/2018 12:27

And before you say but but that wasn't me, as shown, you both do it. In rotation. On loop.

P3onyPenny · 30/07/2018 13:26

Loving the way the leave campaign got away with shocking untrue scaremongering in the lead up to Brexit. Now we’re months away from issues that could very likely happen and go against the leave campaign nobody is allowed to voice fear and worry. As an aside I’m still struggling to get my head round how the leave campaign aren’t going to be held to account over their lies or indeed their overspending. Both go against democracy and are going to have a massive impact on the country as a whole. Why aren’t they being held to account, why can’t we have a vote such as Justin Greening suggested?

bellinisurge · 30/07/2018 13:31

But @P3onyPenny - surely you've remembered wrongly. Isn't that what people are saying these days when you set out how you remember petrol strikes or power cuts or anything like that.

AbsentmindedWoman · 30/07/2018 14:20

"Of course, we shouldn't take Novo Nordisk at their word (your words) regarding inulin as it doesn't fit our political narrative."

I realise this reply was not to me - however.

The crux of this matter regarding insulin is not political. I just want a guarantee that my insulin will be available. That it will be available for all the other type 1 diabetics.

I find it very disingenuous that you are pretending that if it was your life on the line, you'd be reassured by that Novo Nordisk tweet. That you'd skip gaily off and not give the availability of insulin a second thought.

The fault is not with Novo Nordisk (at all!) but that tweet is a carefully worded assertion that they will do their very best, but they cannot offer false promises.

Like I say, they have zero control of delays at import.

You can't seem to grasp that even the slightest possibility of having a drug you depend on to stay alive taken away is unnerving and unsettling.

I am aware that for my whole life to date I have been in a privileged position where I have not even had to think of whether I'll have access to insulin. It's just always been there without any problem. Long may it continue. Many in the world are not so fortunate.

AllIHaveToDo · 30/07/2018 14:44

Christ, Rainbow are you still blathering on?

RedToothBrush · 30/07/2018 14:47

Brexit is a real shit idea.

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