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To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

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LittleNapRefuser · 28/07/2018 20:26

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

OP posts:
Clairetree1 · 28/07/2018 21:34

So what, exactly, do you rely on the EU for?
I'm genuinely interested btw.

well, we are very close to being unable to generate enough electricity to be self sufficient, particularly when we are no longer able to rely on petrol for transport.

We and the rest of Europe are going to fall behind on where we could have been with the development of new antibiotics, which has been happening collaboratively - this could potentially cost tens of thousands of lives, maybe more.

There is going to be massive environmental damage, the tides and winds are not going to respect the new border of the EU, are they?

we won;t have food security, we won't have fuel security, we won't have medical security......we just don't have the clout. we will be totally at the mercy of Putin and Trump, things could go well or badly, there will be swings and roundabouts, but ultimately, we have written ourselves out of the future.

LuluJakey1 · 28/07/2018 21:34

This all happened in 1998 and 1999. We were told there would be a meltdown across the world of every type of computer based system. Governments would fall. Terrorists would gain control. There were people who stockpiled food, water, petrol, fuel, built shelters. I remember one of my university professors telling us he had bought a generator and was stockpiling stuff in his cellar. It was madness.Governments were supposed to have emergency contingency plans. Nothing happened.

LittleNapRefuser · 28/07/2018 21:35

Thank you all your replies apart from Metoodear, please tell me where I said I cried all night? Thanks for the 'advice' but I'm afraid I won't be taking heed of it.

Everyone else, it is sobering that the general consensus is that I am right to be scared. I wish that wasn't the case. I think maybe its a feeling of helplessness because our future is being decided and aside from signing petitions etc we have no sway at all over it. Having a young child has made me far more fearful for their future. It just seems very bleak right now.

Have noted advice about stockpiles.

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MedicinalGin · 28/07/2018 21:36

metoodear sorry, who is unhinged? It’s hard to tell what you mean in your post.
Who are you suggesting needs to see a GP?

Metoodear · 28/07/2018 21:36

Please to all on this thread please seek medical advice

Go to a doctor say what your typeing put loud

His or her answer won’t be phew glad I am not the only you will leave with medication

UglyCathKidstonBag · 28/07/2018 21:39

OP
If you can, get yourself a few essentials I’m every week (a bag of pasta, some soup, tinned meals), they will be useful should you get the flu.

If storage is an issue look at unused spaces like under your bed or under the bottom space in IKEA drawers.

Go slow, go easy and be proactive - if possible.

pinook · 28/07/2018 21:40

But hey Farage is not worrying about UK’s future because on his LBC show last week he says he will leave if it’s a disaster. Unbelievable!

“It was with a dismissive sweep that Nigel Farage mentioned that he would just leave Britain if Brexit was a disaster.

Speaking on his LBC show the outspoken campaigner claimed he never “promised that it would be a huge success”, just that “we will be self-governing”.

That’s the point”, he said. “I never said it would be a beneficial thing to leave and everyone would be better off”.

He did say those things, on numerous occasions, but what his comments confirm is that regardless of the success or failure of Brexit, he will be alright.

He will still be “widely consulted” for his views on international political issues and populist revolts against the political establishment.”

“Former Vote Leave chairman Nigel Lawson has already applied for his carte de sejour in France, a document that secures his rights to remain in Gascony post-Brexit.”

www.thelondoneconomic.com/opinion/brexit-leaders-prove-that-the-campaign-to-leave-the-eu-was-entirely-driven-by-self-interests/04/06/

MedicinalGin · 28/07/2018 21:41

metoodear why all the sarcasm about needing to go to the GP?

Do you realise how finely calibrated the U.K. economy is? Brexit represents one of the biggest changes to our lives in a generation- people are right to be talking about it and scrutinising all possible outcomes. What makes you so certain that everything will be fine?

keyboardkate · 28/07/2018 21:41

I'd say within an hour or so, or very soon anyway...it being Saturday night and all that, this thread will be moved to the Brexit Section.

Out of mind, out of sight.

I can understand Brexit specific threads being moved there, but as we are getting very close to the end game I don't think it's any harm to leave recent Brexit related threads in AIBU even say for a few days to a week, and then move them over.

It will help the debate I think. I hope no one reports me for saying this!

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 28/07/2018 21:41

@metoodear er...what? Bit too much Saturday night wine? Enjoy it while you can before Brexit puts a stop to decent vino!

OP I hear you. In my darkest moments I've wondered what kind of world I've brought my children into. Hate the thought of them having to suffer. So perhaps I'm being irrational and giving into fear but as a parent, it's hard not to.

I live in Scotland and if there's another indy ref, my answer will be yes. I'm English so never wanted to leave, but it feels like the best option right now.

Ginorchoc · 28/07/2018 21:42

Blimey I would have been up sh@t creek without a paddle had it happened, I was living day to day then no stockpiling for me ha.

Seniorschoolmum · 28/07/2018 21:42

Bombardier, your medication will be available in Aus, Canada, India, NZ, none of which are in the EU.
An alternative supply can be set up, why does it need to come from the EU or US.
Do you think all those business in the rest of the world aren’t waiting their opportunity to be suppliers to the NHS.
I think you underestimate them.

LuluJakey1 · 28/07/2018 21:43

medicinal We will buy it. If we can't buy cheeses from Europe for example, we will eat more of our own that we export. If we can not import enough cheap loo roll from Europe, and nowhere else in the world will sell us loo roll cheap (it is sooooo unlikely) we will make more of our own- which we have the capacity to do but it can be bought cheaper from Eastern Europe at the moment. In itself that is no bad thing- less traffic pollution from all the road haulage and more jobs here.

We are world producers of many medications eg one of the biggest worldwide manufacturers of painkillers is based in England.

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 28/07/2018 21:44

The absolute carnage is coming and will be the fault of all the people who voted to leave.
I’m not entirely sure any of you realise exactly what you’ve done

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 28/07/2018 21:45

I think if you go to your GP and say you’re worried about medication supply issues in the event of no deal, they’re quite likely to agree with you rather than give you medication.

You might be able to convince them to give you a little bit extra I suppose.

Quietrebel · 28/07/2018 21:46

metoodear do you realise how demeaning you are being? Dismissing people's opinions and concerns, especially women's, by questioning their sanity is an age-old tool of repression.

Whipsmart · 28/07/2018 21:48

Bread and milk are produced here. Veggies may come from Europe but they're also shipped from Turkey, Israel etc. We won't starve. I think some people just like being hysterial because it makes them feel like their life is exciting.

UglyCathKidstonBag · 28/07/2018 21:49

This all happened in 1998 and 1999. We were told there would be a meltdown across the world of every type of computer based system. Governments would fall. Terrorists would gain control. There were people who stockpiled food, water, petrol, fuel, built shelters. I remember one of my university professors telling us he had bought a generator and was stockpiling stuff in his cellar. It was madness.Governments were supposed to have emergency contingency plans. Nothing happened.

Umm something DID happen. People worked tirelessly in the years before hand to make sure it didn’t happen. It didn’t happen because some of the brightest minds worked to make sure it didn’t.

rainbowsandsmiles · 28/07/2018 21:49

To the poster who said "this feels different to the 70s, I don't know why" - that'll be because there was no social media platforms for everyone to mass panic and egg each other on to more panic with ridiculous statements like "what exactly have you all donnnnnnnne" etc. Whips up more and more panic. It's not healthy. Seriously, as a pp said, get help if you're seriously crying over it, sounds like counseling would be more help than constantly hashing over with others panicking and feeding your anxiety more.

pinook · 28/07/2018 21:50

Compared to medical supplies being in tight demand and the welfare state tanking even further should no deal happen, what I am going to say isn’t on that level but as a kid in the 70’s, I always thought how food on the continent was so much nicer than a English food. Camping holidays in Europe were a culinary joy.

The UK then in 1993 joined the single market and very soon so much more European food was available in the UK, it was great. I am not happy that all the wonderful produce from across Europe may go up in price. I don’t want to only be able to afford cheddar and ketchup.

WhoAteAllthePercyPigs · 28/07/2018 21:51

Oh yes @whipsmart. I just love making excitement for myself by worrying about how much my way of life and that of others is going to be well and truly fucked by Brexit. Really gets me going.

Seriously, that's exactly the type of petty and stupid rejoinder I've come to expect from the Leave camp.

EmilyBishopmyconfession · 28/07/2018 21:52

It's ok people! @lulujakey1* has kindly deigned to explain to us stupid 'remoaners' why it's all going to be ok. Back in your boxes now, blindfolds back on, Tories have it all in hand.. .

Tbh mate you sound like a nob.

rainbowsandsmiles · 28/07/2018 21:52

Quiet rebel - dismissing women's opinions?! FFS, nobody's got a clue who's male or female on here, don't be so bloody ridiculous.

PlatypusPie · 28/07/2018 21:53

Stockpiling because of fears of shortages is the very definition of a self fulfilling prophesy.

MedicinalGin · 28/07/2018 21:53

lulujakey thank you for that and yes I think in the long run it would be no bad thing to have shorter supply chains and more locally produced goods. However, what processes are involved in making something as banal as loo roll? Where do the chemicals come from? How are the factories staffed and what is their capacity? How long do supply contracts and logistics take to formulate and actually become active and efficient?

Surely it’s not beyond imagining that there will be a period of limbo while all this is established and, that during this time, there will be shortages and prices increases as JIT supply chains adjust to these new circumstances? I find it all utterly baffling and frightening.

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