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To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

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LittleNapRefuser · 28/07/2018 20:26

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

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RedToothBrush · 29/07/2018 22:34

Badderwolf, put vaseline (or anyother petroluem jelly) on your cotton wool and just use your matches. The effect is as you might imagine. It'll save you time but maybe not your eyebrows.

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 22:35

@AllIHaveToDo

No Justanother - I said it was a cross party conundrum. So you're saying it wasn't spear-headed by the right wing Leave campaign? Ok then.

Nope you said brexit is a far right issue, and instead of taking my points head on you are backtracking.

Seasawride · 29/07/2018 22:36

inigo

Step away and hide these threads.

For some reason some people love to create FUD it’s what they enjoy.

Don’t let them win Flowers

keyboardkate · 29/07/2018 22:36

Red, since you were the only poster who realised that this thread is getting close to closure, I think you should open the new thread.

And please do.

OctaviaOctober · 29/07/2018 22:37

The thing is, when people lived through wars they had a common cause, and a reason to keep pulling together.

There is no war in this case. We (52% of the people who voted anyway) actively chose this. And if it doesn't go well there won't be a blitz spirit, there will be a lot of anger at the people who dropped us in it.

For instance I have some family members who have been very vocal in their support for Brexit. They are also always broke and looking for handouts. If it turns out they've made life harder for my family they'll get nothing from me except directions to the food bank.

AbsentmindedWoman · 29/07/2018 22:37

"And to be fair she will be justified, Absent is being very selective and essentially calling her a liar based on Absents own political view point, it shows anecdotal evidence doesn't carry weight if it doesn't follow a certain narrative."

Justanotherlurker - it doesn't show jack shit about anecdotal evidence. There is no anecdotal evidence. Because we've not 'done a brexit' before.

Nobody has a story about how it was grand last time. All we have are vague and insipid opinions presented as fact that things will be ok regarding our insulin. Hopefully, things WILL be ok.

But.

That's not enough for me to stake my life on and I sure as shit would not stake a child's life on it either.

AbsentmindedWoman · 29/07/2018 22:42

"At present, we do not anticipate stock shortages. We are strongly committed to ensuring that patients treated with our medicines remain unaffected"

That's the tweet from Novo Nordisk, that people are apparently claiming is a cast iron promise all will be well with insulin.

Actually, t's a neutral and carefully worded non-committal message that they will do their best but can offer no guarantees. How could they?

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 22:44

Seaside - have to agree with you there, hiding the threads if anxious the best way to go.

yolofish · 29/07/2018 22:45

There seems to be some really weird shit going on on this thread... I am convinced that some (many?) PP are either totally mad or bots or whatever they are called. Or maybe I'm going mad because some of these people seem to think they are sane and reasonable??

Itsear · 29/07/2018 22:46

Not panicking here but taking a sensible approach:

Have delayed moving for 3 years to see what happens although we planned to move next year. Both of our jobs are dependent on a good economy (construction/tourism).

Have a dedicated cupboard for tins of food (about 100), bottled water, candles etc).

Thinking about putting small amounts of money in different banks or keeping a cash supply in the house.

We are not well off so I am exercising a bit of frugality by not having holidays, many treats etc until we actually know what is happening.

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 22:47

Nobody has a story about how it was grand last time.

I hope you see the irony in this part.

All we have are vague and insipid opinions presented as fact that things will be ok regarding our insulin. Hopefully, things WILL be ok.

We have one of the major suppliers of insulin saying they have are not worried about the extreme no deal brexit scenario wrt supplies, and yet, because of your political stance you ignore them and decide to call another poster out as not understanding..

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 22:49

Absentminded - I think Just another meant that anecdotal is all well and good and believed if it's something you want to hear like "we lost our job" etc (anecdotal) but automatically a liar if an anecdote you don't want to hear about a positive experience or a child post that doesn't fit your narrative. It was awful.

AbsentmindedWoman · 29/07/2018 22:55

Justanotherlurker I find it hard to believe you would happily stake your kid's life on that Novo Nordisk tweet if you were in that situation.

Forgive me if I choose to believe that you wouldn't. Unless, of course, you were very very deep in denial at what might happen if they are wrong.

"We do not anticipate stock shortages" alright, great, now what if stock gets stuck in delays for a week or two?

"We are strongly committed to ensuring that patients treated with our medicines remain unaffected" I'm glad they are. Really, though, this is window dressing, because their hands will be tied if there are delays along the way.

I very much hope it will be ok. Of course I do. That's not ironic. I also don't think you understand what irony means.

KennDodd · 29/07/2018 22:57

If we have another thread put this on the first page.

www.peoples-vote.uk/march

Ski4130 · 29/07/2018 23:00

Thanks to this thread I got sucked in to watching loads of strange American preppers showing people round their fully kitted our bunkers on YouTube!! It was both worrying, and like Through the Keyhole (just with more guns and canned goods)

keyboardkate · 29/07/2018 23:01

Good work there Red on the new thread.thanks.

There is a lot of worry out there really about this. as evidenced by the existing thread.

I wonder how long it will last in AIBU though after the weekend. Hopefully it will stay and not be moved to the hidden uplands.

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 23:02

Ski - that sounds a strange mix of fascinating and crazy, I watch enough crap on YouTube though so will try to resist suckering myself in as sounds like just the thing I would get sucked in by! Grin

Ski4130 · 29/07/2018 23:04

rainbowsandsmiles - honestly, some of those bunkers looked mighty comfy, and I’d be sorely tempted to get one just to get some peace from the dc and dog!! I would tell no one on my immediate family, and stock it with digestives, mint tea and books.

Jezebel101 · 29/07/2018 23:05

UK signs trade deal with Mexico

Thank fck my sombrero supply is secure anyway.

I would dearly love an accurate figure of how many Brexit voters would vote remain if given the chance. I imagine they'd be voting remain in their hordes while still pretending they were taking back the Empire and sticking it to Johnny Foreigner.

Glaciferous · 29/07/2018 23:11

We regularly supply insulin to other countries in the event of natural disasters.

Do we? How do we do that?

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-medicine-stockpile-insulin-no-deal-nhs-diabetes-a8467516.html

‘We make no insulin in the UK. We import every drop of it,’ says MHRA chairman

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 23:15

Justanotherlurker I find it hard to believe you would happily stake your kid's life on that Novo Nordisk tweet if you were in that situation.

The irony in that statement is delicious, I agree a tweet means fuck all, but I will take an official tweet from a company over my political stance.

Imagine being pro EU and respecting twitter links (as you have) and yet ignore those that don't politically align with you, the mental dynamics that will need to be employed shows another political indept poster

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 23:21

@Glaciferous

Unironically linking to an Independent article, do you know they are funded by a russian oligarch for shits and giggles?

As an aside the could has been countered with actual suppliers tweeting things as such:

twitter.com/novonordisk/status/1023244554630299648

AbsentmindedWoman · 29/07/2018 23:23

"Imagine being pro EU and respecting twitter links (as you have) and yet ignore those that don't politically align with you, the mental dynamics that will need to be employed shows another political indept poster"

Sorry, this is so garbled I am bewildered - what are you saying?

What am I ignoring while simultaneously respecting twitter? Huh?

What is a 'political indept poster'?

You may "take an official tweet from a company over [my] political stance" which isn't actually what I asked.

I said you wouldn't stake your kid's life on it. Of course you are free to plaintively maintain that yes, of course, you would. Like I say - forgive me if I am sceptical of that.

Glaciferous · 29/07/2018 23:26

It's not actually an article, it's a video. But the point remains. We make no insulin in the UK, as confirmed by the head of the MHRA and nobody is preparing to do so. If we do crash out without a deal, there will inevitably be disruptions in supply in that we cannot import anything from anywhere without some kind of agreement with them.

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