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To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

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LittleNapRefuser · 28/07/2018 20:26

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

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Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 22:15

@AllIHaveToDo

You're nearly getting there, using the not true labour is not a valid excuse however.

You still trying to dismiss the labour heartlands as being a right wing issue, does highlight more about you than you probably realise.

If your left wing eurosceptic friends voted leave then how can it be a right wing issue. I will head you off at the path of the far right taking control and highlight Corbyn implemented the 3 line whip to push it through politically.

As for the far right, again it shows more about your starting point rather than you being politically aware.

BettyBooHoo · 29/07/2018 22:16

No, I'm not speaking hypothetically but neither am I going to repeat the specifics that I know. But suffice to say that trade will go on post Brexit.

AllIHaveToDo · 29/07/2018 22:16

No Justanother - I said it was a cross party conundrum. So you're saying it wasn't spear-headed by the right wing Leave campaign? Ok then.

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 22:17

We are not feeding anxiety.
There is very good reason to be anxious.
The whole Brexit campaign was based on fear. Does anyone remember the posters? It was all about an ‘invasion of immigrants from Syria ‘
Now that the remainers are getting a little edgy people start saying ‘stop scaremongering ‘
How is it scaremongering when we are responding to what the government are telling us?

keyboardkate · 29/07/2018 22:17

I really wish there was an IGNORE button for certain posters.

(To be fair I would probably be on the list!).

But that last post from rainbows is just demented. But it keeps on going!

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 22:18

All - again, you'd have a point (maybe) worth engaging with if it wasn't all will, will, will. Presenting as fact. You don't know it will. You might hate to have a more rational and positive outlook, but I can't imagine anything worse than being constantly in the pits of black that some minds on here are set on being in. I think some are only happy if they're miserable.

AllIHaveToDo · 29/07/2018 22:18

Betty - I have no doubt trade will continue after Brexit. But will we manage to wrangle trade agreements like the ones we have now? I think it will mean imposing expensive tariffs which which fall to the consumer to pick up the tab.

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 22:20

Keyboard Kate - just wondering what on earth shared your log on was supposed to mean so asked. I'm not the one turning it demented.

BettyBooHoo · 29/07/2018 22:21

I think that some trade deals will cost more, but that others will be on much more favourable terms. So it will be swings and roundabouts, as ever.

AllIHaveToDo · 29/07/2018 22:21

Sorry Rainbows but you lost me when you said you sympathise with people who have genuine (not faux) concerns.

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 22:23

Coff coff

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 22:24
Confused
BadderWolf · 29/07/2018 22:24

Pmsl laughing at the latest resident international trade expert views on this thread. Absolute ignorance from someone who has clearly no basic qualifications or experience in this area whatsoever.

InigoMontoyaWillcox · 29/07/2018 22:25

@FrancinePelka42 -

9:21am
"panicking parents and patients who are being manipulated into a state of fear for no reason."

I beg to differ - there is a reason to fear. It's not some random journalist being irresponsible stating this, it's the actual UK Drugs Regulator (Sir Michael Rawlins) writing in the Pharmaceutical Society Journal:

www.pharmaceutical-journal.com/opinion/qa/patients-could-be-seriously-disadvantaged-by-brexit-if-we-dont-get-our-act-together/20205237.article

"It’s been suggested that medicines could run out in a day in the event of a ‘no-deal’ Brexit — is this realistic?"

"I think it’s something that we need to make sure doesn’t happen. But there are problems, and the Department for Exiting the EU and the Department of Health and Social Care need to work out how it’s going to work. Here’s just one example why: we make no insulin in the UK. We import every drop of it. You can’t transport insulin around ordinarily because it must be temperature-controlled. And there are 3.5 million people [with diabetes, some of whom] rely on insulin, not least the prime minister. So it’s in our interests to make sure that this sort of thing doesn’t happen.

One of the things that [then health and social care secretary] Jeremy Hunt and [business secretary] Greg Clark said last summer was that patients should not be disadvantaged by us leaving the EU. And disruption to the supply chain is one of the ways that patients could be seriously disadvantaged. It could be a reality if we don’t get our act together. We can’t suddenly start manufacturing insulin — it’s got to be sorted, no question."

This, this is why my fear is legitimate. I'm not saying it's 100% going to happen, but at the moment it is entirely possible, so to go around mocking and patronising worried parents, and saying we are getting worked up "for no reason", is utterly shameful.

Yes, we regularly supply other countries, and yes we can get insulin from non EU countries. THAT IS MISSING THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT! Dear god, do we still have to explain this?! How is insulin going to get through the backlog at ports caused by a no deal Brexit?! Does it just magically appear in pharmacies?!

I don't think being fearful is the best way to go. This is why I am wanting to know what the fucking plan is! I want those in charge to come up with a plan, and it's only since people have been going "hang on! What's going to happen with...?" that they have started addressing issues that should have been addressed 2 years ago or more!

But you go ahead and keep your head in the sand if it makes you feel better.

And yes, I'm a total fucking cunt and arsehole for worrying about keeping my son alive (btw, he's on an insulin pump, and does start to die without insulin after 4 hours, you being the diabetic expert should know that).

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 22:26

Badder I’d be laughing too if it wasn’t so sad

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 22:26

Don't worry, Spam will be included in the Brexit Survival box

We have UHT Milk, a couple of tins of beans, spam and corned beef along with some rice, pasta and tins of tuna.

We are doing the next grade up where we include a copy of the European and a wind up USB-C charger so you can relish in the demise of the UK on the 30th March as we realise the importance of social media angst.

The superior I told you so brand comes with a tin opener, fire starter pen knife and some GMO, Organic free range veg and meat from Kenya we also include some fashion accessories that help you mingle in with the goose stepping nationalists that will obviously marching the streets come April 2019.

Whatthefoxgoingon · 29/07/2018 22:29

Everyone needs to calm down. Francine, very abusive posts from you. Is that really how you speak in real life?

RedToothBrush · 29/07/2018 22:30

Don't forget vaseline and cotton wool!

THE firestarting hack.

Justanotherlurker · 29/07/2018 22:30

"It’s been suggested that medicines could run out in a day in the event of a ‘no-deal’ Brexit — is this realistic?"

It has been suggested ...

A public response kind of shows that the rest of the article is somewhat redundant.

twitter.com/novonordisk/status/1023244554630299648

Seasawride · 29/07/2018 22:30

Honestly seriously this hysteria is getting slightly worrying now.

If people seem to think their children will die because of Brexit it really is time to stop. Think. Centre yourselves and hide these threads.

I gsv rarely read such utter nonsense and scare mongering anywhere but on mumsnet it’s shocking.

keyboardkate · 29/07/2018 22:30

@BadderWolf

We should know all this based on our Governent's information. Shame that it might come from an internet board.

It really is that bad now. And many believe it.

I blame the Government ass holes for not giving us the information toot sweet.

A vacuum is not a good place to get the populace onside is it.

rainbowsandsmiles · 29/07/2018 22:32

Just another lurker Grin just the basic box for me now please

BadderWolf · 29/07/2018 22:32

Don't forget vaseline and cotton wool!
sounds fun...tell me more

RedToothBrush · 29/07/2018 22:32

When this thread fills up, do we get to start another one? Can't wait!

Aintnothingbutaheartache · 29/07/2018 22:32

Inigo don’t allow yourself to get so wound up by people who have absolutely no understanding.
You know you are quite justified to be concerned. Your son has a life threatening condition, you are understandably worried about the future and it’s implications.
Don’t panic though, fingers crossed it’s not going to come to that