To feel terrified after reading the prepping for Brexit threads?

[LittleNapRefuser]

I have genuinely cried real tears of fear after reading the threads on prepping for Brexit today. I have a toddler and right now I am terrified of what is to come and their future after all this.

I don't really have anyone to talk to about this in 'real life' because most people I know aren't reading the news or don't seem to care.

Should I be terrified? Should I be scared for my baby's future? Can anyone reassure me or offer me an alternative perspective on all this. I don't want to to put my head in the sand but I feel really afraid.

Ahhh your asset manager husband is ok so all is well, it's great he can look 5 years ahead and be so confident re his job security.

The financial services employ shed loads of far less wealthy staff then asset managers.

The arrogance shown by some who simply think being the UK is enough is breathtaking. We're all just supposed to carry on blindly while the Tories carry on with their self serving shit show.

Instead of prepping we should be protesting,but no still we bury our heads in the sand believing the crap from the wealthy who will be fine regardless. Well I guess if you can't beat them join them. I've long since given up. Cheers!

@Quietrebel , I think this is like a new toy for people to have a thing about one way or the other. Some people are childish about it because that's how they roll.
I hope that most people will reflect a bit on e.g. Just in Time issues and quietly put food aside for themselves and their family when they can.
The rest is just being gobby. Which preppers don't do if they don't want people in real life to know they have a stash of stuff.

Op trust me. Our economy will boom and bust over the coming years just as it always has, shops will b full of food and planes will fly. Tourists will come and in turn British people will travel and live and work abroad.
So the economy has always boomed.
As it has since the economic crisis of 2008 or when the U.K. join the EU as the sick man of Europe?
The things will carry on as they always is just a dream because it has never been the case. As for ANY country, there has been crisis and booms and nothing is protecting the U.K. from another crisis.

As for the planes will always fly etc... and we will always be the great country we have always been.
I’ll want to point you towards Argentina. A country that had a fantastic economy until the 1920 (the were after all the 7th richest country in the word). A very developed country with plenty of money around and a strong economy. Now? Not anymore. After some bad decisions in the 1920, they’ve lost all their advantages and are still struggling 100 years on.
So yes it can happen that a country is loosing it all. It has happened before. It will happen again.

I find it helpful to remind people that the people planning for no deal are Brexiteers as in pro-Brexit people. And they think that civil contingancy planning with the army is both appropriate and necessary.

The fact that their planning is a total pile-o-shit does tend to make you think that its a bluff.

But what if its not?

If they are serious about crashing out, and that is not unlikely especially given who is lobbying and how there is political benefit to powerful and rich far right types to bring about total chaos and civil unrest, then that planning might really be needed. If its substandard, then trust me you have no idea what next year is going to be like.

Of course it could come to nothing and we get a deal.

I have a three year old son. I can't take the gamble.

Can you?

Instead we have people being rather nasty to people who are concerned.

Why?

Why are you so angry?

Why does it bother you that others have concerns over this?

If you don't then fine, but why the vitrol to others?

Its really not a pleasant or attractive look.

Hermione, the post you quoted says the economy will "boom and bust" as it always has done, not just boom. And that's correct, the economy throughout world history has followed those cycles faithfully, regardless of Brexit. It's nothing new.

There is no leadership in this country anymore.

People are concerned, but there is no one calming things down on a leadership/political level is there?

Posters here can say what they like about calming down and all will be fine, but until we hear that from the Government, anonymous internet posters will not hold any sway at all.

I do hope it will end well and all our fears are for naught, but no one is telling me this from those that really know the score.

No wonder many are floundering around and are very concerned. Nature abhors a vacuum.

Interesting comment re. the financial markets... I work in that area, and can confirm that actions are already in place to open subsidiaries, move key players etc. and scale down work in the UK. Of course, no reason you should take my word for it - feel free to do your own investigations.

The Financial markets plan well in advance (normally at least 18-24 months). With no banking "passporting" in place, a lot of financial institutions have moved to Frankfurt and Dublin (Paris is interested, but for some reason, most companies that I know are not choosing France.. Odd, but it may be I have only a small sample to choose from, and they could be anti-France :-) ).

As with most people here - hoping that everything gets sorted, but it is purely sensible to prepare for some supply chain issues and hiccups. Sensible preparation is not hysteria - and it bugs me no end when people come on here and tell you "Don't be hysterical" when you are (to my mind) simply taking reasonable anticipatory action...

anonymous internet posters will not hold any sway at all

But you think they should have sway in whipping everybody up into a frenzy of worry!

Quite right Keyboard, there is a complete lack of leadership no to mention major unrest in the main political parties. It does nothing to restore my faith that all will be well. No one is offering any reassurances.

I work in that area, and can confirm that actions are already in place to open subsidiaries, move key players etc. and scale down work in the UK. Of course, no reason you should take my word for it - feel free to do your own investigations.

Subsidiaries, and key players in certain fields yes, across the board not so much.

I don't need to take your word for it as I see first hand through a couple of close friends, one was 1 of 1000, what I also see first hand is the investment taking place in new tech as it is my workplace offering the solution, that is not being directly put into the city.

The term Europe wants and will get all our finance bases is still not based on fact, but headlines.

But hey we can just play anecdotal evidence until the cows come home.

Um where are we going to travel abroad to work exactly?

Prior to Brexit my dc could study in any European uni for free,they now can't and are stuck applying with unis that are rapidly becoming the most expensive in the world. After education they could have applied for any job they were qualified for in the EU,ditto my dp. Now that is shut off and the EU will take only those in the EU first. USA is already nigh on impossible to get work in sooooo exactly where are all these jobs going to be?

Many counties want to join the EU for good reason. When/if it goes tits up it's highly likely we won't be able to afford to just buy our way back in should they even want us.It has cost a fortune already.

But yeah I guess planes will keep on flying,for the lucky few who could afford to fly in them.

Ahhh your asset manager husband is ok so all is well, it's great he can look 5 years ahead and be so confident re his job security

Um excuse me, where did I say he was an asset manager? I said he worked IN asset management. In a tech role. He is not an asset manager - we do not live in a house made of gold!!!

But hey we can just play anecdotal evidence until the cows come home.

Well exactly. Frankly at this point in time no one knows anything.

I would advise anyone with an Irish granny, or Jamaican granddad, or a parent who emigrated to the UK from a now EU country to apply for dual citizenship. All the EU countries have seen a huge upsurge in applicants for passports from UK citizens since the Union Jack T-shirt Squad sold out their kids future.

Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

@Jezebel101 - mum was Irish.already on it!

Kind of ironic that most of the very people the Union Jack squad wanted out will be better off than them post Brexit.

I think the population of Ireland is about to explode. A side effect of Brexit is that it's going to be a hugely popular choice for multinationals now, so they'll need the extra bodies. Already a bit of a boom going again in Dublin so I'd get in there ahead of time if you have the option.

I've a German granny and an Irish one :P

Lucky you. I have a Scottish one,does that count?

I wonder how the people of Ireland feel about an explosion in their population? won't their infrastructure be adversely affected? House prices rocket?

The company dh works for has opened a subsidiary and they are rapidly trying to squeeze as much work as they can that way, but apparently there are legal issues that limit how much they can.

Why would a short sharp shock and here i assume you mean an economic one? give us back our nations pride?

I don't get that either.

The (not so) short, sharp shock of austerity has crippled our public services, damaged our infrastructure and led to a massive increase in poverty and homelessness.

I'm praying that whatever happens, someone (who needs to be at least as clever as Ollie Robbins, who is very clever indeed) is smart enough to ensure that if Brexit happens, the effects don't compound the damage already done.

National pride is a bollocks concept.

'Nations pride' - yes we'll all be preening around strutting our stuff like imitation peacocks this time next year when we're all worse off. Of course we will.

Never heard such a glib load of bollox-speak than 'Nations pride'. It's fucking shallow as hell. Taking pride in what exactly? That we're falling off a cliff edge? Well yeah that makes me feel patriotic as fuck.