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AIBU?

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Mil keeps asking and asking

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Stormi12 · 27/07/2018 07:07

Mil has recently been begging to provide full time child care when I go back to work and even suggested she and fil take my 6 month old out by themselves. I do not like them. I do not want them around my child. Why on earth they think I’d let them take the baby out is beyond me.

Aibu to keep visits as a family as opposed to providing alone time?

OP posts:
heartsease68 · 28/07/2018 14:49

salem Please describe the ways in which the OP's MIL has 'bent over backwards' to be lovely to her DIL?

Lizzie48 · 28/07/2018 14:51

Would it be possible for your DH to take your DS to spend time with your MIL so that you don't have to see her so often? I find my MIL very hard work and I opt out of some of the activities that my DH does with her and our DDs.

Lizzie48 · 28/07/2018 14:53

Posted too soon. But then my MIL is 77 and isn't trying to muscle in as a co-parent.

Would you be able to trust your DH not to agree to anything without consulting you? He sounds like he's in agreement with you for the most part.

Stormi12 · 28/07/2018 14:54

Lizzie48. I prefer not only because husband will defer to her and let her take over his care. This opening a can of worms for when I am present and don’t allow her to take the lead.

Also husband is home on holiday and has no regard for baby’s schedule and often forgets to feed him; so I wouldn’t be encouraging him to take lo without me present.

OP posts:
YaLoVeras · 28/07/2018 14:55

I think it would be generous to just let her take your child for an evening. She's not trying to steal your child. She wants to cuddle her grandchild. I disliked my xMIL but I got this. I still dislike her because she's as dumb as a brick but she loves her grandchildren. She's no threat to me though.

Ask yourself why you're so threatened?

21stCenturyMrsBennett · 28/07/2018 14:57

Your husband regularly forgets to feed his own child but its his mother you hate?
Priorities. Try some.

Stormi12 · 28/07/2018 14:58

Yaloveras. The problem is my mil expects us to defer to her and to take charge of my child. I didn’t have a baby to hand him over; If I do give in once, she will come to expect it and will be unrelenting in her guilt trips to my husband. Setting the tone early has curbed many of the issues i was anticipating before I even delivered.

OP posts:
Stormi12 · 28/07/2018 14:59

Bennett. It’s the solids he’s forgetting. It’s new to the routine so he forgets.

OP posts:
PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 28/07/2018 15:04

I wouldn't leave a 6mo with his granny overnight! Shock

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 28/07/2018 15:08

I actually do think kissing your adult son on the lips is weird. I kiss mine on the cheek. I also hug him.

Stormi12 · 28/07/2018 15:10

Also mil doesn’t kiss bil and sil on the lips. They’ve probably told her to knock it off whereas my husband is too nice sometimes.

OP posts:
Anonymumm · 28/07/2018 15:12

Yep, this really is a lasagne! Helps to have some extra insight...

I think it is a DISGRACE that you were moo'd at! I actually can't believe that she behaved that way towards you, she obviously never breastfed herself before she's done something like that - I actually think your DH needs to pull her up on it.

I breastfed, and, as lovely as it can be, it isn't easy.
It was bad enough when I got asked if my baby was on 'proper' milk yet, and I definitely didn't have the most encouraging attitudes surrounding me, at times, either - but to be moo'd at like that, and imply that's the only purpose that you serve to your baby is disresptful, rude and undermining.

My MIL also had a habit of kissing my babies on the lips, it drove me insane, and even after saying not on the lips, when the kids were older, I wish I'd been more direct and told her not to do it. I also found them very intrusive/pushy at times. I think they always thought I would go back to work and they would have the kids, they didn't consider anything else, perhaps it had always been part of their 'life plan', however it wasn't part of mine.

Sounds like she is very resentful, so I guess all things considered, she's pretty lucky you visit so regularly.

@SugarIsMagic it's actually a myth that Breastfeeding causes boobs to become saggy - I breastfed my youngest for 18 months and can assure you that I'm, both, perky, and proud - go educate yourself.

Beingthere · 28/07/2018 15:12

You know something, it doesn’t matter why the OP doesn’t want to leave her baby with someone else, if she doesn’t want to then she doesn’t have to!

She goes to MILs as a family, but if she didn’t want to do that she doesn’t have to. MIL is lucky to see the baby at all and should stop bullying before the OP gets completely fed up. It is not a right, there are no grandparents’ rights, and the OP’s MIL sounds horrible!

Anonymumm · 28/07/2018 15:16

@NeedsAsockamnesty
I just want to say, you sound like an amazing MIL, and a breath of fresh air!

LoveInTokyo · 28/07/2018 15:18

I prefer not only because husband will defer to her and let her take over his care. This opening a can of worms for when I am present and don’t allow her to take the lead.

This is called “being a control freak”.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 28/07/2018 15:36

Control freak or ensuring that uour bsby is cared for in the way you want?

ILoveHumanity · 28/07/2018 15:37

I have a bad feeling that most Pps in here are mils who are projecting their own relationships with dil onto the OP.

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 28/07/2018 15:38

I guess I should have oinked back at her for being a pig? 😂

LoveInTokyo · 28/07/2018 15:42

I’m not a MIL and I can see a lot of people who seem to be projecting their own bad relationships with their own MILs onto the OP.

Mumsnet seems to be a real echo chamber for people seeking confirmation that they are right and MIL is wrong, end of. I wonder how many grandmother and grandchild relationships are suffering because Mumsnet has convinced mummy that she is DEFINITELY NOT BEING UNREASONABLE when actually she should grow up and try compromising occasionally.

TailEndCharlie · 28/07/2018 15:42

Oh good god wading through this is torment! OP YANBU. A lot of the stuff being posted is being done by frustrated grandmothers or mums of boys that are terrified so take it with a pinch of salt. Once a week visits are more than enough and no a grandparent doesn't have a right to alone time with a baby. It is weird and not appropriate unless it helps you. Kissing on the lips is godawful too and freaks me out too. You are not alone, and are doing great. Vent here as it helps, and know that your MIL is bloody lucky to have so much access to your DS as it is.

TailEndCharlie · 28/07/2018 15:44

I want to second that @NeedsAsockamnesty sounds absolutely awesome as a MIL.

karyatide · 28/07/2018 15:49

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Inertia · 28/07/2018 15:51

I think I could understand all the pearl-clutching on behalf of the poor weeping grandmother if she never got to see the baby, but OP+DH+baby visit every bloody week! It’s not about seeing the baby, it’s about sidelining the OP so that the grandmother can have sole control of the baby, and I wouldn’t be happy with that either in OP’s position.

None of my children’s grandparents see them more than about 4 times a year, for various reasons (distance, divorces, work commitments on both sides) and it’s been that way since they were babies. And the sky hasn’t fallen in- the children love their grandparents, and vice versa.

ILoveHumanity · 28/07/2018 15:59

I’m a sil and my mum is a mil to two dil. She has a very good relationship which grew because she gave it space and didn’t choke it.

One of the dil is like what some pp suggest. Started off as not wanting to put any effort from the very beginning without even meeting us.. the other, had many differences with us but respect from both sides allowed the relationship to grow. I love her actually. I assumed I wouldn’t but I had no option but to respect her and her comfort ans that made me grow to like her.

I’m a dil... I have done more than any other dil would do, in efforts... to forge a relationship with mil.

She also loved me back from the beginning...

But was lacking in respect. Was pushy. Minimising . But loved me in her own way.

That relationship broke down despite many attempts to amend.

Now how I wish I just stuck to visiting as a family and not having 1-to-1. At least, would’ve saved the relationshop from ill feelings.

I respect her. But dislike her and don’t trust her. Much like the op describes and much for the same reasons.

Some mil compete by trying to pretend the wife of their son doesn’t exist as a person, they choose to disregard her because they’re too pained to watch their son be independant of them.

Sure I sympathise ..

But doesn’t mean that they should expectthe dil to be dumb about it or ok with it.

If you are in pain, because you can’t yet accept your son has a new life, with his wife... then keep a distance out of courtesy to his aware wife.

You have full sympathy and respect for being the mother that raised him. But the dil giving up her rights to be acknowledged as the mother of his children and respected and appreciated as his wife, isn’t the way to make you feel appreciated.

When the mil decides to work with her dil... surely, most kind dil won’t feel threatened.

So the idea is , you either work together or stay away from each other. Simple.

And right now , the priority is that the mother should be comfortable with how her child is raised, so sorry mum, you re secondary on this one. I know it is hard for you to acknowledge that your dil is a mother and her opinions on her child are more important than yours, but it is what it is... you are gonna have to swallow it.

No buying lots of nursery items doesn’t paint anyone as an amazing grandma.. an amazing grandma, makes sure that their grandchild lives in a stable home.. and makes sure the source if all goodness to the child is feeling safe and comfortable - yes that is the child’s mother.

Throwing gifts at the child is secondary. Means nothing when you re hurting the child through his mother.

So to you mothers of boys, I’m a mother of a boy.. and yes it will be a struggle seeing him find his independance and leaving me to feel redundant ..but that’s why teach them to be a man, not a Mumma boy

Because a Mumma boy will only become a wife’s boy one day. A man, will always remain a man

Beingthere · 28/07/2018 16:01

Mumsnet seems to be a real echo chamber for people seeking confirmation that they are right and MIL is wrong, end of.

The relationship between MIL and SILs/DILs is a cliched suckfest for a reason! There are ingrained biological reasons at play as well as a generation gap, a “married in” gap and all sorts of crap going on.

Grandparents should learn to tread carefully from the off because however entitled they feel, they have no rights, it is not an equal relationship. They had their time at being mummy and if that is all they feel they can do, they should go out and get a life. However, some don’t learn, won’t learn, and some of those end up on here being posted about.

I wonder how many grandmother and grandchild relationships are suffering because Mumsnet has convinced mummy that she is DEFINITELY NOT BEING UNREASONABLE when actually she should grow up and try compromising

How one sided is your argument?! What about the MILs who come on here and call the posters “bitches” and “arseholes”? The MILs that bully, try to pull rank, are passive aggressive, interfere in the marriages of their adult children... we read it all on here. How about they grow up and start to know their place?