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Aibu MNHQ does not want us to debate brexit on the main boards

381 replies

Quietrebel · 26/07/2018 10:25

Just that.

Someone shared a link to the Independent's Final Say petition. The most important debate this nation can have right now is on the final brexit deal. This was promptly buried in the 'petitions' section.
This isn't any old petition. It concerns all mums/ citizens. If someone wants to share it with the wider MN community, they should be able to.

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LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 18:44

No, because no one has come up with a solution.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 18:44

No, because no one has come up with a solution

If you say so.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 18:46

Well please do by all means correct me if I am wrong. (By telling me what solution you have come up with.)

PineappleSunrise · 27/07/2018 18:49

I have zero interest in hearing why people voted Leave. The vote was two years ago, we have moved on.

Now we need to understand how Brexit is going to work without destroying the economy, and so far there have been no solid answer from the government or from people who still passionate want us to leave. In fact, the government is now admitting that they have set us up for food and medicine shortages, and that the automobile, aerospace, health and agricultural sectors are going to be absolutely hammered.

We are all going to be adversely affected by what's coming, no matter how we voted two years ago.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 18:51

Start the conversation from where we are today, not where we were two and a bit years ago ..... radical

Yep, it's not just two and a half years ago, it's all the time and you know it. You just don't know that you know that you know it. (Sorry, that was another Friends thing.)

BoneyBackJefferson · 27/07/2018 18:52

LoveInTokyo
No, because no one has come up with a solution.

Including you.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 18:52

Where we are today is 8 months from Brexit day with no deal and no solution to the Irish border issue. So yeah, let’s start from there.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 18:54

Including you.

Exactly.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 18:55

Where we are today is 8 months from Brexit day

Well, seeing as March is 8 months away from July yep, you're right there.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 19:11

My solution is that we remain in the single market and customs union, thereby respecting the vote to leave the EU, our pre-existing obligations under the Good Friday Agreement and our subsequent affirmation of our commitment to those obligations in 2017.

There you go.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 19:13

Very good.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 19:14

Your plan, that is. Sorry,pressed too soon. Have you told Theresa? Maybe she's reading and writing it down for you.

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 19:17

Theresa May isn’t my MP so she has no obligation to answer my correspondence.

I have in fact raised it with my MP. Unfortunately my MP is Jeremy CHunt, who is a waste of oxygen.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 19:27
Talkstotrees · 27/07/2018 19:35

Maybe something to do with coming out with shit like "ah, divide and conquer?"

No one gets my humour Sad

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 19:35

What’s actually wrong with my suggestion?

It is, as far as I can tell, the only way to both respect the referendum result by leaving the EU as well as honouring our pre-existing legal obligations under the GFA.

It also has the advantage of not fucking up the economy and providing an easy blueprint for our withdrawal and future trade agreement which can be negotiated in 8 months.

Of course we won’t be able to stop EU immigration, buy chlorinated chickens from America or save £350m a week, but two of those things were never going to happen anyway and nobody wants the third.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 20:07

What’s actually wrong with my suggestion?

Did I say there was anything wrong with your suggestion? I clearly said very good.

rainbowsandsmiles · 27/07/2018 20:09

No one gets my humour

Yeah, that's what it was.. Hmm

Agustarella · 27/07/2018 20:10

YANBU. This is the most important issue of our lifetimes, which affects everything we in the UK currently take for granted.

I'm not sure if the petition will do any good though, regardless of where the thread is put. :(

LoveInTokyo · 27/07/2018 20:21

Well your reply came across as rather sarcastic, rainbows. Glad to hear it was actually genuine.

Smile
keyboardkate · 27/07/2018 20:24

You see this whole Brexit thing has polarised our country, everyone seems to be at each others throats over it now. Very evident on here anyway.

So fkn unnecessary too. But anyway I am the eternal optimist and notice a big dip in Brexiteer hubris in the last week. I may be imagining it, but I don't think so.

keyboardkate · 27/07/2018 20:28

@LoveInTokyo,

I agree with you. Anything other than that is just beyond contemplation now.

The Free Movement has many in a tizzy, they think that the whole of Europe will just move here tomorrow or something.

That is not true. Well we all know the rules of Free Movement, and if any country has applied it well it is Belgium. Three months, show you can support yourself or you are out!

But then again they have ID cards and can identify these people. We don't and probably never will. Talk about tilting at windmills.

BoneyBackJefferson · 27/07/2018 20:29

LoveInTokyo

Two years and when forced common ground is found, It wouldn't please all but I suspect that most moderates would be happy with it.

Seasawride · 28/07/2018 10:19

what 3 things will be better after brexir

What a stupid question as we don’t know yet we havnt left

PineappleSunrise · 28/07/2018 10:59

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenario_planning

Hope that helps, Seasawride.