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dungandbother · 19/07/2018 13:42

Dd was told off by a (strict) TA to untuck her PE T-shirt because it didn't look right.

I am outraged that she would comment on the appearance of a child and how they choose to wear their PE kit.
Yr 6 if it matters.

DD always tucks her shirt in because she doesn't like the feel of the waistband on her skin - no matter which uniform she's wearing.

Should I write and complain ?

OP posts:
Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 24/07/2018 04:21

Not as repulsive as adults calling primary school children bitches

^This.what kind of “adult” calls children bitches? Confused Truly pathetic.

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 24/07/2018 05:21

It sounds like asking someone to tuck her t-shirt in wasn't the worst thing this TA did. I can understand the sentiment behind cutting her out of photos.

marble11 · 24/07/2018 06:43

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buttybuttybutthole · 24/07/2018 06:49

At least now you know it's not just you who doesn't like her Grin

petrolpump28 · 24/07/2018 06:51

so let me get this right....they were given a gift, a momento of their time at Primary school and saw fit to cut up a picture and leave some of it on the floor.

This was a cause of celebration in the OP's home? There we have it.

Jonsey79 · 24/07/2018 07:19

In all my many, many years as a y6 teacher I haven't come across anything as appalling as your daughter's behaviour. Cutting the TA out of photos and leaving them on the floor? Really? Congratulations OP, you have raised a bully.

If this happened at my school we would contact the secondary school to forewarn them and we would remember the children involved forever - not fondly.

Disgusting of them.

Jonsey79 · 24/07/2018 07:22

Plus, if the TA was as bad as your say then your doing nothing about it for 7 years hasn't particularly helped had it?

Jonsey79 · 24/07/2018 07:22

*has

strawberrisc · 24/07/2018 07:28

Like Mother, like daughter.

kmammamalto · 24/07/2018 07:46

What @jonsey said.
The photo cutting is a disgrace. It smacks of young people over excited and in a mob mentality taking against a particular person. Unless you can provide specific examples of rudeness the TA sounds like she is a bit of a stickler for the rules and has a harder attitude. While not ideal it is your job as a parent to teach her to get along with all types of people including this she doesn't like.
However unfortunately for your DD you sound like you enjoy ganging up on someone. I cannot believe your Dd thought she could come home and tell you they did this without fear of being told off... frankly I'm stunned and feeling so sorry for the TA who had to face that on her last day after a hard long hot summer term.

Jonsey79 · 24/07/2018 08:10

Oh, and we work closely with the secondary schools we feed into. They would probably have the riot act read to them in September. At the very least, all staff would be warned about them. Something to think about over the summer.

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 24/07/2018 08:17

They would probably have the riot act read to them in September.

What a lot of nonsense.

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 24/07/2018 08:20

I don't think the OP will be back, but I'd bet a month's salary she will be lurking and reading. As an PP said-like mother, like daughter. Horrible, disrespectful behaviour from the group - and our school would definitely prewarn the Secondary school for their information.

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 24/07/2018 08:23

@Iwasjustabouttosaythat how come it's a lot of nonsense? I'd bet the Secondary will be prewarned at the very least to keep an eye out for more behaviour like this from this group of charmers. Again, as I said before, behaviour like this is learned in the home, not school, and enhanced by peer pressure from other such arrogant and entitled wee horrors.

Jonsey79 · 24/07/2018 08:23

Fair point, maybe the riot act is an exaggeration. The secondary school staff will know though, and it's an awful first impression to have made.

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 · 24/07/2018 08:24

@Jonsey79 exactly. Their cards will be marked, or closely watched at the least.

petrolpump28 · 24/07/2018 08:55

Trust me secondary school will not be remotely interested in some nonsense that happened 6 weeks prior to the start of term.

The dear child will however be spoken to harshly and mummy will continue to whine.

Lizzie48 · 24/07/2018 09:09

@marble11 once again, what the OP has said, it was boys who did it so not 'bitches'. Why would you assume they were girls?? And the OP's DD wasn't involved. Although I agree that the OP's response wasn't setting a good example in gloating about it, obviously.

But the school should ask themselves why the children felt such hostility towards this TA. I've certainly never heard of a display like that against one TA.

But I would like to say that this kind of response can be a case of lashing out in anger after years of abuse. Something inside those children possibly snapped.

I've been there. I had a very bullying Headteacher at the convent school I went to as a child. She never missed an opportunity to belittle me. She told my DM that of course I was a girl who would 'never pass a public examination'. I ended up with 2 degrees. Part of me as an adult really wanted to go and visit her and wave my degree certificates in her face. I didn't of course because by then I was an adult not that 8 year old who suffered at her hands.

Part of me would also like to desecrate the grave of my abusive father. Again I don't, because I'm an adult and can control my anger.

Children need to be shown how to manage their anger. The OP set a very poor example by condoning or even approving of the children's behaviour. Did you tell her they behaved badly, OP?

ChuffingNorah · 24/07/2018 09:23

Really this is so nasty OP. You sound as though you're never going to understand that though.

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 24/07/2018 10:07

Trust me secondary school will not be remotely interested in some nonsense that happened 6 weeks prior to the start of term.

^This.

The dear child will however be spoken to harshly and mummy will continue to whine

^not this. It’s not just one child who had a problem with the TA. As far as we can tell they didn’t have a problem with anyone else, just the TA. Why would the girl continue to get in trouble? If OP is to be believed her DD didn’t do anything wrong in the first place.

I don’t know why some people find it so hard to believe some teaching staff can be jerks. Maybe you had a magical childhood with not even one bad teacher, but if most people are honest they will remember at least one nasty person in all those years. We had one who would relentlessly pick on certain students for no reason. I wasn’t one of those students but it wasn’t nice to watch.

petrolpump28 · 24/07/2018 10:27

Some teaching staff, a tiny minority shouldn't be there. The days of staff bullying children are long gone and rightly so

However the pendulum has swung too far in the opposite direction. Teachers and assistants have every right to speak sharply, in order to manage large groups of children who have been brought up to constantly question authority. Oh and also deliver all singing all dancing lessons, safeguard, feed and on and on it goes.

rainbowstardrops · 24/07/2018 10:43

What utterly disgusting behaviour from your DD's class!!!!
No wonder the TA is grumpy - so would I be if I'd had to tolerate rude, obnoxious children like these sound for a whole year! I imagine she is clapping her hands with glee at finally getting rid of the rude little buggers.
You and your DD seem to be smug about what happened too.
Absolutely disgusting Angry

strawberrisc · 24/07/2018 10:47

*Trust me secondary school will not be remotely interested in some nonsense that happened 6 weeks prior to the start of term.

The dear child will however be spoken to harshly and mummy will continue to whine.*

Absolutely not true. Secondary schools receive detailed transition notes about students. Believe me.

Cauliflowersqueeze · 24/07/2018 11:01

That kind of thing wouldn’t be written down. It would be explained over the phone.

Lizzie48 · 24/07/2018 11:20

The OP's DD doesn't have to worry about this, as she didn't participate. The gloating was in bad taste, as we can all agree, but I also don't get why some Mumsnet posters think teaching staff are always beyond reproach.

The OP has said that it was the first time her DD was targeted. It could be that the culprits in this instance had been naughty and hence had regularly been told off by this TA.

I've said before, teachers should be strict and stand no nonsense. But the nitpicking described by the OP just puts children's backs up and makes them unwilling to cooperate. The teachers that are most respected are the ones that are firm but fair.

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