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AIBU?

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To think kids birthday presents should reflect on venue?

413 replies

sunnysky19 · 08/07/2018 12:42

Background: My DD is very good friends with 2 girls at primary. Due to their friendship us 3 mothers have become close over the 2 yrs often meeting up for coffee or play dates etc.
All of us are in similar financial positions, homeowners, part time jobs, DH/DP working full time, only one has 2 DC. I have 3 DC and so does another.

Issue: one mums DD 3 months ago had a birthday party in one of those trampoline parks, I believe the cost was approx £16-£17 per head. The Present I gave was a popular toy and cost £13
2nd mum hosted her DD birthday last weekend in her back garden. Nothing fancy, no bouncy castle or extra entertainment etc. She discussed the plans with us beforehand so I knew. Asked to bring swimming gear for kids to use paddling pool + had a dancing musical statue game. Food was average, sandwiches, crisps, rolls etc. Pressie I gave was again a toy not as popular at £6.

Got a msg to thank me for coming and 2nd msg saying she was surprised that she regarded us being equal friends but didn't know I favoured the other mother with a LOL at the end of her msg. When I asked what she meant she went on to say, "oh nothing really, just that the pressies made her feel less valued, it's not about the pressies but the principles of fairness etc re the kids.
Had a little chat with her pointing out mother no1 splashed out for a fancy venue hence the present there.
So mother No2 just debated it's a personal choice with venues, both birthdays were of equal fun and enjoyment. DD is a guest regardless of venue and I shouldn't judge on it financially, but be fair to maintain good friendship without ill feelings. Also adding she didn't mind spending the money on a venue like last year but as the weather is lovely it seemed a waste to be indoors hence the garden party this year. So it's not her being petty and stingy.

I did apologise to her that she felt like that to keep the peace but AIBU to believe the presents given should reflect the cost of a do/venue, if it's a simple party a simple present would suffice and if it's a fancy party to increase the budget to reflect that or that they should be given equally in cases like this. Re equal friendships between kids... ??

Sorry it's so long but opinions would be appreciated so I could re-evaluate my principles here if I ABU.

OP posts:
Snowysky20009 · 08/07/2018 17:31

This was my post by the way:-

You are weird.

We spend between £10-15 because that's our budget. At ds2's last party he had gifts from a few £ balls to a £45 top (which I was shocked at). But that made no difference to what the children had in return for their birthdays, and their parties varied, ours cost approx £40 per head, with the food and activities.

But what mattered was my child and the other children were always thankful for whatever they received. They've been taught you don't give to receive. Which to a point is what you are doing- the better venue gets the better present. Not a good attribute to install in your child.

JohnsonsSpreadsheet · 08/07/2018 17:35

Does this rule apply to weddings too?!

jelliebelly · 08/07/2018 17:36

YABU for having a weird approach to align gifts to venue cost. Also YABU to spend so much time over thinking kids birthday presents - setting them up for a life of materialistic drama

Graphista · 08/07/2018 17:41

"AIBU to believe the presents given should reflect the cost of a do/venue" YES! massively unreasonable! I've always been on a tight budget but when dd was around this age every party she went to the gift cost was approx the same with the exception of my niece and nephews as we're naturally closer to them.

You were rude - apologise and resolve not to be so in future.

"Petty and stingy" geez with friends like you...

Stop being such a snob (and not a very good one actually as true snobs base on quality not price).

You're essentially saying "if you want your child to get a decent gift you have to spend more on the party"

Seems to me you know the cost of your gifts while ignorant to the value of your (and your CHILD's) friendships. I'm guessing you're also the type expects people to spend the same on you for gifts as you do them and if they're not as well off as you, you spend less on their gifts!

Also the cost of the first party may have been more in cold hard cash, but the 2nd party certainly would have required more effort - which is ALSO valuable, or is it only money that matters in your world? Doubly insulting that your gift policy means that you think the effort your friend went to in opening her home and all the prep before and clearing up after isn't considered of value.

Pps are to a degree right that friend was also rude to call you on it - but then I strongly suspect this is a case of "final straw" do you treat this friend and their child less well than the other in other ways? If I'd been her I wouldn't have said anything - but I'd have distanced myself from the friendship as a result!

Agree also it's a very poor way of parenting, teaching your child friends are more or less important based on what they have to offer materially!

"I do appreciate genuine opinions" they're all 'genuine opinions' whether you like them or not! And what courtesy? Given its been pointed out multiple times that actually most consider this BAD manners I think you need to reassess.

I don't actually fully believe the update. I think op may change her behaviour slightly but not her ideology.

"Believes that I base my present giving on what my DC get" but you are - you're basing it on what kind of party they 'get'. I agree your updates are making you sound worse if anything!

You have a good deal of thinking to do I believe, I dread to think how you'll treat a friend of dds if like my dd they come from through no fault of their own, a family who can barely afford a few friends for a sleepover!

Because the extrapolation of such attitudes is that some PEOPLE are worth more than others. That people are only worth what they can offer you in return.

Deny all you like, at heart that's what your 'principle' equates to.

AnotherDayAnotherName745 · 08/07/2018 17:44

YABU I wouldn’t even consider how much a party cost when buying a present.

This^. Really calculating to give according to your view of the 'value' of their party offering.
Also you asked in your OP if the value of gifts should reflect on the venue, which makes no sense (implies that you would take the value of gifts given there, into account in forming your view of the venue). So YABU for that, too Wink.

ViserionTheDragon · 08/07/2018 17:51

Sorry, but you're being mean and implied that her DD didn't deserve an equally nice present because her mum threw a more relaxed and probably less expensive party. You know at that age presents mean the world to small children, right? The poor girl didn't deserve an inferior present.

Alaaya · 08/07/2018 17:56

YABVVVVU. Poor child at the second party.

Oxfordblue · 08/07/2018 17:59

I've always done home parties & end up spending a small fortune & time + energy, buying & preparing things to make, buying decorations, food, cake etc. So yes YABU - treat them all the same!

mildshock · 08/07/2018 18:02

That sounds ridiculous.

We once bought a girl a where's wally book that I found in a charity shop (looked brand new) for 99p and some sweets.

We didn't have any spare cash so spent as little as possible. By all accounts the birthday girl said the book was her favourite present, and took it to school for a show and tell day.

Spend what you want, on what you think the child will like. This competitive, petty, over-thinking about the cost of presents is childish.

CherryPavlova · 08/07/2018 18:06

I’ve never heard such a silly and avaricious viewpoint on giving presents.
You invite children (or adults for that matter) because you want them to share in the celebration. You do not expect presents. If someone has forgotten or doesn’t bring a present that should be fine.
You give presents with good grace and with a desire to please the recipient. The value is almost immaterial.

RainbowsAndSmiles · 08/07/2018 18:08

I asked for some opinions and I am all for change, not to be bashed with mannerless and rude feedback by unstable individuals

Grin Lol! Where have you been met with unstable individuals? Just catching up on the thread. You asked for opinions, people are giving them. Stropping and calling people unstable for disagreeing with you makes you look like the "unstable" one! Grin
Loopytiles · 08/07/2018 18:08

YABVU, as was your friend.

ThatWhiteElephant · 08/07/2018 18:10

You were both unreasonable.
I would NEVER question the value of a gift, but I have never heard of people buying gifts according to the cost of a party, bizarre!!

fearfultrill · 08/07/2018 18:12

This approach is so sad for the child. It's nothing to do with them how much money their parents spend on the party so why should they get a lesser present?

Ridiculous manner of thinking

sendthecoffee · 08/07/2018 18:14

She is being very rude questioning the gift (i have no idea what people buy for other people's kids!) but you are also being unreasonable. I spend £5-6 on presents, and don't even take into consideration where the party is held.

Weedinosaurus · 08/07/2018 18:15

I think the ride person is you calling people unstable. Also, as multiple posters have said YABVU. Your thinking is very odd. Never dies the cost of a party that my DD goes to cross my mind (except one that was very extravagant... And didn't change how much I spent on the present). I would suggest you graciously accept the feedback and think about your views on a deeper level.

DrinkFeckArseGirls · 08/07/2018 18:17

It smacks of sucking up to thise with more money.

henpeckedinchief · 08/07/2018 18:21

YABU - you shouldn't make the kids 'pay' for the decisions their parents make as to venue. You should treat the children equally because it's the decent thing to do. You shouldn't be cynically assessing the cost of the party to determine what you give a child who doesn't make those decisions.

TeasndToast · 08/07/2018 18:21

You were BU and have a bizarre way of thinking. But the mum was so rude!!

KittyMcKitty · 08/07/2018 18:22

Yes YABU what an odd approach!

loveyouradvice · 08/07/2018 18:23

This feels bizarre to me ... I have always done present based on friendship not the party....

ie standard £8-11 for not best mates
£15-17 for best mates... between 2-4 of them depending which year in primary....

I think it is rather embarrassing that you are measuring the cost of the party....

You are not meant to be paying them for the party, you are meant to be celebrating their DC and their relationship to your DC....

That said, I always expected less valuable presents if the parents were strapped for cash, regardless of the relationship - and ditto typically got more expensive ones if the parents were rich!

MarieeBarone · 08/07/2018 18:25

I've never thought of it that way OP. I've always done close friends and families children around £15/20 then school friends I pop £5 in a card if I don't know the mum to ask what they'd like. Even then it's around a tenner.

thornyhousewife · 08/07/2018 18:31

You are all being unreasonable.

Stop making a mental note of what you all spend and earn, it's disgusting and you'll pass it down to your kids.

All three of you need to get a hobby or something. Be better than this nonsense.

ASongOfRiceAndPeas · 08/07/2018 18:32

Yabvu. How odd. If I were the other parent I wouldnt ask you but I would wonder. Your reasoning is really strange.

MarieeBarone · 08/07/2018 18:34

thorny some of us HAVE to do those things as we're on a budget. I will purposefully teach my child that when they're older so they know what they can spend after it is earned...

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