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To be disgusted by my own city?

303 replies

DelRaya · 07/07/2018 23:02

Seen lovely footage of fans “celebrating” by smashing up a taxi ... jumping up and down on it, completely smashed the windscreen. All done with a large crowd watching them and singing.

Jumping up and down on bus shelters, again smashing them to pieces.

I’m so utterly disgraced with my hometown.

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JacquesHammer · 09/07/2018 22:23

I think this is worth posting just now.

Millwall Supporters Club has already raised more than £5,000 for the London Ambulance Service damaged in Borough High Street

Whilst obviously the damage shouldn’t have happened I think it important to start to redress the balance in favour of the countless football fans who don’t cause trouble.

ToeToToe · 09/07/2018 22:32

That's really great of Millwall supporters. Bad that it happened in the first place.

Of course we all now know that 'We Need to Talk' Women's Group have More Balls than Millwall now....but that's by the by... Grin

@DrRadfem Smile

HelenaDove · 09/07/2018 22:47

Thats nice Jacques

Hygge · 09/07/2018 23:24

I'm hating it.

Our council has imposed a no-go area for homeless people because they were making people in the town centre feel intimidated. Not just for the football, they did it months ago to encourage people to shop and drink without having to look at a poor person.

Never mind that it was drunken yobs who almost kicked a homeless man to death here while he slept.

No, the only antisocial people we have in our town are the blokes sleeping in doorways.

Now the football is on the council have probably done the homeless people a favour by getting them out of the town centre while all the so-called fans are out.

For every England game one particular street has been totally filled with drunken arseholes in football shirts and flags, jumping up and down on the bus shelters until the perspex gives way and they fall through.

I've never avoided the town centre because I thought I might see a bloke with a dog sitting on a sleeping bag. I have avoided it like the plague since the football has been on the the thugs have been out.

A friend shared a facebook post of a girl who works for the NHS, who went out to watch a game and ended up being glassed by some piece of shit who celebrates by throwing bottles and glasses.

She's had to have an operation already, may never fully recover, nearly lost her eye, and has had so many comments from other thick arseholes saying she should have expected bottles to be thrown at her if England score because "that's just how we celebrate" and if she didn't like it she should have stayed at home.

And then there's Women's Aid posting about how domestic violence increases if England lose.

I know it's not all fans but seriously this is a national embarrassment. If they win the whole thing it will still be eclipsed by the behaviour of these thugs.

manicmij · 09/07/2018 23:45

No reports of English fans running riot in Russia, wonder why? Perhaps they know they wouldn't be out and about o watch any more games, or even able to get their plane home. U K is far too lenient when it comes to this mindless vandalism. Hope the culprits are found. As if the Police don't have enough to do already.

HelenaDove · 09/07/2018 23:52

manic

HelenaDove · 09/07/2018 23:53

Hygge that was shared on my fb too.

The praise and respect for the NHS on their 70th birthday was quite short lived.

penguinsnpandas · 10/07/2018 00:57

Made front story on Russia Today:

www.rt.com/sport/432362-football-coming-home-england/

Plus our cabinet changes are keeping them amused. I don't think they are strict enough here, I wouldn't bother phoning police unless extreme, just annoying pub serves men who are throwing glasses into road where children cross knowing they are completely drunk and have been drinking since 2pm. But as no-one does anything it carries on hence we are moving.

HelenaDove · 10/07/2018 01:14

penguins there were a lot of young children with their parents around the pubs on Saturday afternoon /evening but it was adults throwing balls into oncoming traffic and kicking them quite forcefully across the street.

penguinsnpandas · 10/07/2018 01:57

Helena Its quite depressing when you know kids are watching adults behave like this. Here the pub congratulated people on their excellent behaviour and said hope its the same on Wednesday - must have very low standards though at least they cleared the glass at about 6am. So looking forward to Wednesday and the finals, not. But good to have people to moan about it with Grin, been a month of hell living next to a pub esp in a heatwave so they are all outside.

Love the way they say its adding to economy too, a month of people drinking themselves silly and skiving off work to watch football, can only imagine the economic growth that creates.

jemihap · 10/07/2018 06:24

The vast majority of Engerlund ''fans'' aren't even football fans, just the usual piss heads having an excuse to act even more moronic than the usual.

Hygge · 10/07/2018 08:11

@HelenaDove - you're right. We have more to be proud of in our NHS than we do in our football team.

Yet the NHS is suffering because of these people who claim to be patriots.

As for the percentage of fans causing trouble being small, for every one girl jumping on a taxi with her arse on show or every fat bloke on top of a bus stop doing a crowd dive, there are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of other low-life idiots egging them on, cheering, laughing and filming it. Each and every one of them is culpable for the harm and damage caused.

IrmaFayLear · 10/07/2018 08:34

Of course drunken anti-social or criminal behaviour is disgusting. Zero tolerance.

But... the majority of people - even with a few bevvies - are enjoying the football quite peacefully.

Some posters on here would never criticise violence (yes, violence) at "approved" political protests and say they were ashamed of their country then. When there were the riots in London a few summers ago - beamed around the world - did they make you ashamed of your countrymen?

Oliversmumsarmy · 10/07/2018 11:38

I think it is not England fans in general that are causing the problems I think it is a town issue.

Why does one town produce the problem fans and fans from another town are well behaved.

NameChanger22 · 10/07/2018 11:40

I'm a bit fed up of paying for others to enjoy the stupid game.

MaryMcCarthy · 10/07/2018 11:44

The vast majority of Engerlund ''fans'' aren't even football fans, just the usual piss heads having an excuse to act even more moronic than the usual.

The vast majority, really?

So of the 25 million likely to be watching the football would you say maybe 20 million are moronic piss heads?

Over a third of all English men, women and children are "the usual piss heads" looking for moronic ways to act...?

Get over yourself.

MaryMcCarthy · 10/07/2018 11:45

Consider how many fans have contributed to this fund, compared to the numbers who caused the damage...

www.thesun.co.uk/world-cup-2018/6737503/football-fans-raise-thousands-to-repair-ambulance-and-cars-damaged-in-england-world-cup-celebrations/

Faxthatpam · 10/07/2018 12:16

Wow the anti-football brigade are out in force on here aren't they?
I get so sick of hearing all the vitriol against a sport that actually brings people together like no other. The problem with football is that it's THE most popular sport in the UK and most of the world. Viewing figures for football are higher than for every other sport put together. As a result you get a small MINORITY of fans who are idiots causing trouble, but because the numbers watching are so huge this seems like a lot of people. So this whole "it doesn't happen with Rugby, tennis or cricket" nonsense is ridiculous. The problem is the binge drinking culture we have here, that is what should be addressed. There will also always be nasty elements of society latching on to a mass event like the World Cup, they are nothing to do with real football fans.

IamaBluebird · 10/07/2018 13:01

The pub garden I watched the last England game in was full. The thirty odd crowd I was with consisted of 3 actual football supporters. I mean people who actually go to football matches. The rest were simply watching because it's the world cup. Some will enjoy the event others will annoyingly get drunk and cause trouble.
Either way when this is over they will put away the England shirts and revert to having zero interest in football.

stevie69 · 10/07/2018 13:24

Wow the anti-football brigade are out in force on here aren't they?
I get so sick of hearing all the vitriol against a sport that actually brings people together like no other. The problem with football is that it's THE most popular sport in the UK and most of the world. Viewing figures for football are higher than for every other sport put together. As a result you get a small MINORITY of fans who are idiots causing trouble, but because the numbers watching are so huge this seems like a lot of people. So this whole "it doesn't happen with Rugby, tennis or cricket" nonsense is ridiculous. The problem is the binge drinking culture we have here, that is what should be addressed. There will also always be nasty elements of society latching on to a mass event like the World Cup, they are nothing to do with real football fans.

Well said, you. Spot on Smile

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/07/2018 13:27

Fuckin hell. If they act like that when they win. I dread to think how they'd react after a thrashing.

HelenaDove · 10/07/2018 17:04

its not anti football its anti mob mentality and anti anti social behaviour.

I take it you would be happy with me jumping up and down on your car or jumping up and down on an ambulance thats on call.

im sure you would also be happy with me doing this if said ambulance was parked up while in attendance to your DC

TornFromTheInside · 10/07/2018 19:11

Some of the antics that Rugby fans get up to, and the chants they sing can be horrific.
There's often ugly scenes at the cricket too.

Excessive alcohol and males are the common denominators in both.

PyongyangKipperbang · 11/07/2018 00:15

Some of the antics that Rugby fans get up to, and the chants they sing can be horrific.

Agree.

I have seen some horrible behaviour over the years. Being a woman or a gay man is not something you want to be when they get started.

But because being a "Rugger Bugger" is seen as upper/upper middle class and therefore ok, it gets ignored in favour of slagging off football fans, who may not be better but they are certainly no worse.