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SIL rant

131 replies

jacks11 · 07/07/2018 17:55

I should probably just ignore, but wondering if I have (inadvertently) been unreasonable?

DB and his family have come up for the weekend, mainly to see my parents as it is DN's birthday this weekend (tomorrow). Briefly, the reason this involves me in any way is DP's live in house on our land (for various reasons, works for both of us) but don't really have room for DB/SIL and their 3 DCs, and due to my dad's health he does find really busy/noisy house quite tiring. For this reason, on the few occasions they do come for more than the day they all stay with me. DB and I aren't close, long back story. Although lately I have been feeling decidedly sorry for him due to SIL's behaviour... but that's another story.

It was their (DB and SIL) idea to come for the weekend. SIL has been such a pain since she arrived (well, since I arrived to collect them, as neither DB nor SIL drive). When I arrived to collect them, she was really quite rude (ignored me when I said hello, for example), scowled the whole journey (over an hour) and barely said a word. Even to her own children. She barely spoke to anyone on her arrival- pretty much one word answers only and continued in this manner over dinner and until bedtime. It created quite an atmosphere TBH.

No improvement to her mood this morning- I had to go out with the dogs and wanted to do so before it was too warm. DD wanted to ride, so took them out with the dogs. Let them know before we left- they have been here often enough to know where everything is and I did say "help yourself to whatever". Got back to kitchen in a pigsty, annoying but for sake of peace I just cleared it up. Anyway, was chatting to DB and he asked how DC were getting on- quick chat about what they've been up to, good school reports etc. He said similar about his DC. SIL had a few digs about going out so early "no idea why you bother" and "how annoying to have all these animals to look after". I ignored her but otherwise all quite amicable, so I thought.

As weather nice, I thought barbecue might be nice. Asked parents and DB/SIL what they thought- all keen (even SIL seemed to brighten up). We have one of those outdoor permanent BBQ house things (came with house when we bought it) but doesn't often get used much so thought it would be fun. Of course, I don't keep enough burgers etc to feed everyone so I said I was going to go shopping to get everything. SIL asked if she could come- no problem but only popping down to farm shop down the road as don't really want to go into town (quite a lot further). I proceed to go to shop and buy burgers, sausages etc and a few other things that I probably don't need but thought may be nice (gin)/useful for store cupboard.

On the way back in the car SIL got really quite annoyed about the amount I had spent because it's more than she would spend "food for a week". I think it's none of her business and I have never (and don't intend to) ask for a financial contribution towards meals from guests, so really what I spend is not an issue for anyone else. She wouldn't have known if she hadn't asked to come, so it's not like I did it to deliberately rub her nose in it. TBH I didn't even register that it may be a problem. I just said "ok, well sorry you're upset but I don't think I've done anything wrong". She went off in a huff, I've ignored it and carried on.

Now, I've just had a rant from SIL. About everything, and how unfair it is. She has apparently looked up the school fees, how much the last holiday we took must have cost (she didn't get it right) and so on. I don't get it- none of this is new or different from how it has been for a long time. She is still furious that we didn't loan them money recently, apparently (but this is because they have form for not paying back money lent to them). She has somehow learned that I have just bought an expensive thing related to my and DC's hobby (no idea how as I haven't told her or DB anything about it). It was more than they had asked to borrow and she feels that this is insensitive of me to have done so.... I meant, WTF is going on.

What we do with our money has got nothing to do with her. I don't think I rub their noses in it- certainly not deliberately. Some things there is simply no getting away from, we are financially secure and have a good quality of life and it is obviously different from theirs, no hiding it. BUT I have never told her how much anything is or gone on about holidays/cars etc (they aren't that interesting to anyone else). I don't discuss how much anything costs/what I spend on things with anyone really (other than DP) as I think that is rude. So the only way she knows this is to have looked it up herself- but how is that anything to so with me?

I get that she may be upset we wouldn't lend them money, but it wouldn't be a loan, as they never pay it back. Despite their promises. I have written off the money lent to them in the past, but I am not doing it again as I don't like being treated like a mug. It's not really the money, it's the principle. Yes, I can afford to lend it to them but I am not their personal cash machine. And I know that it wouldn't stop at one loan, it would be constant pestering for money (this is what happened after the first episode). So I said no- and would only help again in an absolute emergency (e.g. they were going to be made homeless or something like that).

I can understand that she might not particularly have wanted to come- but it was their suggestion. I suppose it's possible it was DB's ideas, but even so, surely she either makes her excuses and stays at home, or comes and behaves with good grace?

I guess I'm struggling to see why this is a problem now and why she things our finances are any of her business?

OP posts:
jacks11 · 07/07/2018 17:56

I'm more wondering if I was unreasonable about the shopping today, not the rest- it just seems to have been what has triggered all of this.

OP posts:
ProudThrilledHappy · 07/07/2018 17:57

Yanbu. She sounds like an ungrateful arsehole.

Ellafruit1 · 07/07/2018 17:59

It isn’t any of her business. Trust yourself! You’ve done nothing wrong.

Aprilshouldhavebeenmyname · 07/07/2018 18:01

Ask her in front of db /dps why she feels your finances are her business?

GabriellaMontez · 07/07/2018 18:03

She sounds like a knob.

That's all really. On so many levels. You're not going to get through so I'd probably just ignore her.

Or say " you priced up our holiday? How weird "

MatildaTheCat · 07/07/2018 18:04

What a grumpy cow. Are they short of money because of high cost of living etc or is their any chance DB is getting them into debt? Hard to think why she’d be so rude otherwise.

Turn the other cheek and drink the gin. Hide the gin from her because I can guarantee she will be kicking off by mid evening.

Returnofthesmileybar · 07/07/2018 18:04

She sounds like a rude entitled cow! I'd have it out with her "No sure entirely what your problem is and I don't really want to get into it BUT know this, how I spend or what I spend is not now or ever will be your business. You did not get loaned money because you did not pay back the money last time, that is a fact and everything else is irrelevant. You are always welcome here but frankly you are being rude and it's not appreciated. I am happy to put this behind us now and have a nice evening but you need to stop for this to happen"

rinabean · 07/07/2018 18:06

Did your parents help you buy that property/was it theirs?

I know you say you weren't deliberately rubbing her face in it, but you still were doing it. It doesn't go away just because you're not trying to do it, it doesn't work like that.

Aprilshouldhavebeenmyname that's awful advice, because you have no idea how much of this OP's brother shares or doesn't share. You don't attempt to break up families or marriages just because someone's being a knob, and potentially trying to break up your own family because someone else is being a knob would just be bizarre.

fuzzyfozzy · 07/07/2018 18:06

Next time call her on it.
And I'd say to dB that if she doesn't want to be polite unfortunately you won't be able to host them again.
(No, re shopping you weren't bu, if you'd been tight about buying things I'm sure she'd have had something to say about it too. )

Notrightbutwhattodo · 07/07/2018 18:07

She sounds incredibly rude and very jealous. You can do whatever you like with your money and it's absolutely none of her business. I think you will definitely be needing that gin...

Milliepede · 07/07/2018 18:07

She's jealous of your lifestyle. Tell her to eff off if she makes any comments again and remind her that you are not her personal piggybank.

Fatted · 07/07/2018 18:09

How rude!!

I could perhaps understand DB being cross with you for not lending the money, but it's not SIL's place to bring it up. There was certainly no need for being in a strop and having a hissy fit over the weekend.

SirHubzALot · 07/07/2018 18:13

Your money, how much you spend and who you choose to lend it to, has literally nothing to do with her. With that attitude I wouldn't invite her again!

dustarr73 · 07/07/2018 18:14

Thats just rude.What you spend is no body elses business.Is she saying it to you,oe are you hearing things second hand.

If its the former,pull her up on it.And if its the latter just dont host them again,Fuck them

C0untDucku1a · 07/07/2018 18:16

Well quite clearly your parents are passing on information. I imagine the sil is frustrated that she cannot have the same lifestyle. Who funds it?

Arum51 · 07/07/2018 18:18

You need to get onto your parents and tell them to keep their mouths shut. This is where she's getting information about your spending/what you're buying.

You also need to be firm with SIL. What you do with your money is not her business. Life isn't fair. They are poorer, but it's not your job to fix it, and I've no idea why she thinks it is!

ZoeWashburne · 07/07/2018 18:20

If she presses on just say “our finances are none of your business. And to be clear, several times we have lent you money and you never paid us back. Even after promising you would. You have one persons to blame for your situation and it certainly isn’t us”.

Tistheseason17 · 07/07/2018 18:21

YANBU

She is a little green, jealous monster.

Fluffycloudland77 · 07/07/2018 18:21

I don't blame you for not lending to her either. It's clearly a jealousy thing.

jacks11 · 07/07/2018 18:21

rinabean

No, parents didn't contribute. They sold their house, moved into their current house (we own house but there is a proper legal agreement etc). They have kept the proceeds of their house sale to spend as they see fit. We didn't do it for financial gain- it's to help support my parents, mum in particular.

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8misskitty8 · 07/07/2018 18:23

Do you think she has maybe went through your personal papers and bank statements while you were out with the dogs ? And that’s why she knows about your hobby purchase. ?

Next time she moans about money and you not lending them more remind her how much you have already lent them and that they have never paid it back.

Next time they decide to visit direct them to the nearest b&q. What a couple of cheeky fuckers.

Mymouthgetsmeintrouble · 07/07/2018 18:24

Yanbu , i earn considerably less than my db i would never ever act how your sil has , i insist on paying my own way and if we stay with them i do a big shop for us all to share i am happy for my brother and his family and i feel proud of his achievements , she sounds very jealous and unpleasant

Mummyoflittledragon · 07/07/2018 18:24

You need to stop discussing your finances with your parents. My brother used to have a spreadsheet on my finances. He told me which is when I stopped divulging anything to him.

ittakes2 · 07/07/2018 18:24

Put your foot down - it's your house and her behaviour is rude and unacceptable. If you are treating her to a nice meal - it is really a bonus for her rather than a reason to dig at what you have that she doesn't. It sounds like you will never win with this woman - she doesn't like you/ is jealous of you and will always find fault. So lay the ground rules because bending to try and please her or keep her calm will never work.

Stepmum3 · 07/07/2018 18:26

I would say she is unhappy with her lot and you in her mind seem to be living it up.
Obviously they are having to watch the pennies. Maybe she feels resentful to your db.