Hairless foofs

[Ginismyfriendx]

So can't sleep and watching naked attraction (please do judge me, I deserve it)
Are completely bare foofs a thing now? Having had a nasty experience of an ingrown hair from shaving bikini line (which required anti-biotics) why go through that? Nevermind the faff. Who want's an evening shadow on their lady bits?
All for a bit of pruning, but uprooting?

Again with the Romans and the French Aristocrats. They aren't really your go to examples for women pleasing themselves.
Shave/Don't shave - your call. Don't tell me I need to be "educated" .

Penguin what happens if someone farts while you are doing their bum? Is it embarrassing or do you just shrug it off? It must have happened!

Whereas plenty of people doo prefer the look/feel of less or no hair in certain places

Exactly. And plenty don't.

Although I disagree with your first para. If you had really hair legs and had them on show, you might expect daily that lots of people would notice That's not the case with pubic hair... just your DP and the Doctor!

It’s the beauticians I feel sorry for. Imagine having to do that on a Monday morning with a hangover.

@bellinisurge

Seeing as you have no desire to tell women what to do with their Fannies I don’t think you were the intended audience for my comment.

I don't think it's down to porn, but porn is a key influencer.
That doesn't mean porn invented pubic hair removal any more than it invented strangulation or anal sex, but it is a pervasive influencer whether people like it or not.

It works by suggesting to men how sex should (or could be), which then filters down to women being asked 'oh, it might be sexy if you shaved, tried anal etc' Eventually enough women find that their men are 'pleased' by it that they become conditioned to think that it makes them attractive to men. Eventually, society then accepts 'shaved is attractive' and a positive thing.

That is not to say ALL women do this, or all men, but it's an example of how pervasive porn can be in changing public perception and behaviour.
It's not only porn of course, advertisers for fashion and beauty products are hugely influential too, and can steer large swathes of the public into curly perms or out of them. Into shoulder pads or out of them, into body hair or away from it.

There's a much larger market for grooming products than ever before and thus it's no surprise that smooth bodies are marketed as 'desirable' to us.

Nobody's saying it's never happened before, of course it has. But given pornography is one of the highest used sectors of the internet, you'd be a fool to underestimate its influence.

Advertisers would kill for the reach and exposure that pornography has.

Although the modern resurgence of bald fannies may have come from porn

Almost certainly. Perhaps people didn't know what they were missing back in the old days :)

Still, I am a believer that the things popular in porn became popular because people actually liked them to begin with. Other things remain niches because there isn't that spark of underluing "interest".

Or maybe I am wrong and if they ever did start putting their stars in clown-make-up people actually would en masse start finding the clown look a turn on/aesthetically preferable, because they saw it in porn.

Or maybe I am wrong and if they ever did start putting their stars in clown-up people actually would en masse start finding the clown look a turn on/aesthetically preferable, because they saw it in porn.

If they could twist it into a fetish of some sort, it could well work.
You only need to look at the fashion to see how whacky stuff can take off. Shell suits, shoulder pads, 'big hair', punk, new romantics etc - music and fashion manage it, I'm sure porn can too.

I do think porn is less concerned about looks than 'acts', but a shaved pubis is / was not just a look but an act. There's absolutely no logical reason why dressing up in black leather and thigh high boots is symbolic of BDSM / Ds, but for some reason it's become associated as part of the role. If you were to have a little fun in the bedroom and a woman was to be 'dominant' there's a fair chance she'd elect to don high heels or boots to 'play the part'. It's fascinating stuff the correlation between images and acts. From 'naughty nurse' to vicars and tarts dress...

Although I disagree with your first para. If you had really hair legs and had them on show, you might expect daily that lots of people would notice That's not the case with pubic hair... just your DP and the Doctor!

True but even if its only your partner it's still someone. People will do things because they prefer the results or because they know others will. No reasons why someone only has to concern themselves with the general public and what they can see, and not what their partner only can see. Or perhaps I am misunderstanding your point.

NanaNoodleman is there something wrong with the female form then? I'm not sure that that's a very nice comment somehow and I'm quite suit that will be ignored even though it could worry some women about going for smears, check-ups, whatever.

My beautician is a professional, just as professional as I'm sure Penguin is and just as professional as any other person. You wouldn't say that about midwives or doctors would you?

Penguin, I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind? What is the spray that you use to prevent ingrowing hair? I'm wondering if it would help my husband with his beard. He gets ingrowing hairs quite often.

I also wondered about the Lycon waxing; everybody seems to rave about it but I found it painful as my beautician was 'picking/flicking' it off. Strips are better for me but I wondered if there's a different method to try?

Finally, how on earth do you manage a whole waxing in 30 minutes? I'm in awe! Mine takes just over an hour but includes everything including moustache, eyebrows and any other hair that I don't want. I tried the baby-like hair on my hips at the back before a lumbar puncture just to see what it was like. I wouldn't bother with that again, she just did it because I asked for it. Knees really hurt more than anything else - by a country mile!

Or maybe I am wrong and if they ever did start putting their stars in clown-make-up people actually would en masse start finding the clown look a turn on/aesthetically preferable, because they saw it in porn. The inflated lips/sharpie eyebrow/contouring look is pretty clownlike and that comes from porn via the Kardashians etc

I'm a midwife. Haven't seen a bare foof in a while really and I see at least four or five vags every working day. Maybe it's a thing women cba with when pregnant? I dunno!

@boloriabullet I couldn’t bloody see mine while heavily pregnant, let alone reach it

@SoddingUnicorns my husband shaved mine 😂

The waxing salons near me advertise 'pregnancy waxes' in their windows - @Penguin34, what would the difference be between a regular wax and a pregnancy wax?!

@NotUmbongoUnchained haha that’s a good idea! To be fair I only do bikini line usually so it didn’t make that much of a difference

@SoddingUnicorns He had to shave my entire body for me because I was a useless swollen sausage 😅

TornFromTheInside If they could twist it into a fetish of some sort, it could well work.

Sure, for a minority. Lots of fetishes in poon and elsewhere. Minority niches though.

As it happens I agree with you that there can be a subjective element in why certain clothes become associated with other sexual things, and so if you are the sort of person who gets turned on by SnM say then you may well get turned on by the associated things, if you also hold those associations. You still need that starting interest thought don't you. Now whether that primary interest can be put within you by external means is another question. All I can say is, I have seen SnM videos over the years and they did nothing for me and no amount of watching them is likely to change that. Just don't have that underlying interest.

One thing I will say about the pubic business. Don't wish to be overly graphic so will just say that from discussions with men the reaction can be visceral. See it and they want to bury their faces in it. Not quite the same when it is more like a wall of hair because you can't see it or not as easily. It is perhaps a bit like the difference between being able to see the boobs and not being able to see them. Different reactions.

You can argue the point that this is not derived from "underluing" reasons but is just the relevant people being fooled into thinking this way by external reasons, but ultimately there is no proof either way is there.

@NotUmbongoUnchained my useless swollen sausage moments were DP having to roll me into an enormous tubigrip that went from breastbone to hips for SPD he’s definitely a keeper

@SoddingUnicorn SPD was the worst! I couldn’t even roll over in bed myself. It was hell when was DH was working nights.

Rous it's not obvious he liked hairless because of porn, it was because it's what his girlfriends had over the years (that's not to say he never watched porn!)

When you think programmers like Sex and the City are 20 years old and the shaved (completely or in part) was discussed more openly and less taboo. Those women were in their 30s and dated men from early 20s all the way up the age scale! But predominantly their boyfriends were in their 30s/early 40s.

So women shaving their fanjos then who were dating men in their 30s, well those men would now be in their 50s or thereabouts. So it is a little naive to not realise men over 50 have probably dated lots of women over the past 20 years who have done at least a landing strip on their privates. So assuming men over 50 must all be looking at shaved bits on porn videos and cannot have possibly seen a woman like it in real life because of his age is not correct. From my experience it's quite the opposite!

Saying that, my dp who is in his 30s so would have fit the "porn being very accessible to young lads" generation had never seen a shaved fanjo before me! His ex, who he was with for 10 years, had a full bush (which he never had a problem with.) He was quite taken back when he saw my shaved pubic hair (I'm not bald) because it was new to him. I remember saying to him if he would rather I had a full bush (in query rather than yes I would do it) and he said no, he actually prefers my look now. I said good because I like it and prefer it like that.

So the men I was with in their 50s had had multiple partners with shaved privates over the years whereas my dp in his 30s was a shaved fanjo virgin

@NotUmbongoUnchained it’s brutal eh? I was pregnant for 18 out of 21 months and I was burst by the end of it! My hips still aren’t right 4 years later, I still get that stabbing pain if I turn too quickly

the red head i mentioned earlier is in his early 60s now so just out of that age range. He didnt have a problem burying his head...........

Unicorns that sounds awful