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Hairless foofs

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Ginismyfriendx · 06/07/2018 01:02

So can't sleep and watching naked attraction (please do judge me, I deserve it)
Are completely bare foofs a thing now? Having had a nasty experience of an ingrown hair from shaving bikini line (which required anti-biotics) why go through that? Nevermind the faff. Who want's an evening shadow on their lady bits?
All for a bit of pruning, but uprooting?

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SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/07/2018 14:41

Thoughts of my boo fighting through dense hairy vegetation is not throb pube pleasing or sexy to me (personal opinion)

Is English your first language, Independent?

SchadenfreudePersonified · 09/07/2018 14:52

I do not want to police what other women do. I want people to think about why they do things. What influences their choices. And I want women to stop telling other women that pubic hair is gross, dirty, unhygienic and smelly. If you find having no pubic hair feels nice and improves sex for you- (and this does not include doing it because otherwise men won't go down on you) then fantastic. But don't tell other women you are cleaner than they are because you wax. You are seriously deluded if you think that contributes in any way to making free choices. The post saying for example, "who wants a huge sweaty bush" is just the sort of thing to make even more women embarassed to go for smears or feel they have to apologise to the midwife

Thank you Bertrand. That is exactly how I feel. I have a very hairy fanny but have never felt that I needed to shave/wax/whatever for either hygiene or aesthetic reasons.

If other women do - fair enough.

However it is my opinion that it all has more to do with porn and male demands, and some women contemptuously going "eeew" at the thought of females having hair anywhere except on their heads. If we stopped making women feel bad about what is natural, or that they should fit into a "Barbie-doll" mould, then I think fewer women would want to depilate.

HelenaDove · 09/07/2018 14:55

"dense hairy "vegetation"

another comment that will be ignored no doubt.

PortiaCastis · 09/07/2018 15:00

I'm creasing up at my boo and dense hairy vegetation, what a lot of hairlarious twattery

QueenoftheNights · 09/07/2018 15:15

What the hairless ones don't seem to 'get' is that this IS a fashion.

It's something that has latched on relatively recently.

In the 'good old days' when I was in my teens, 20s, 30s and even 40s, it just wasn't done. (Ok so maybe a few women did....)

You certainly couldn't get it done in a salon. There weren't products for removing it from 'sensitive' areas. Or TV adverts with women waving razors over their knickers alluding to pubic topiary.

There is nothing dirty, sweaty or 'not naice' about pubic hair. To make other women feel there is, is misogyny. As I've said upthread I've not met a man in his 50s or older who is bothered by it , and more than that actually hate the plucked chicken look, so guess it's coming from young lads, brought up with easy access to porn and women who somehow feel it's the norm.

If you'd been born before 1960 you'd not even have pubic waxing or shaving on your radar.

bellinisurge · 09/07/2018 15:17

According to a pp, it's absolutely not a porn thing. Apparently it's been common place for centuries in the Middle East. That bastion of women's rights and promotion of women's sexuality.

Roussette · 09/07/2018 15:17

It IS coming from young lads, they know no different. And it is a fashion thing that may well change.

HelenaDove · 09/07/2018 15:48

Queen its one of the reasons i prefer older men.

KinCat · 09/07/2018 15:48

I usually get it all waxed off. Sometimes I'll leave it for a while but I do prefer it gone as I feel I get sweatier with it there (could be psychological - we do live in the tropics though and its very humid).

DH claims he doesn't care either way although does like picking out any ingrown hairs that result from waxing...sexy...

SickOfSitting · 09/07/2018 15:58

Queen I was married to an older man in his 50s and also dated a couple of other older men and they all preferred the shaved look. The porn they watch (yes shock horror older men watch porn) all had fully or part shaved fanjos.

It wasn't something they grew up with or complained about no, but a lot of older men do like the look of it now it's the norm thing to do.

SickOfSitting · 09/07/2018 16:09

I'm also surprised at how some people are just cottoning on to the fact people shave their pubic hair.

Sex and the City is 20 years old this year and shaved pubes was a big topic in many episodes and widely spoken about. It's been in popular culture for a good 15/20 years with the rise of the topic on tv/Internet/magazines.

I'm really surprised there are people who have thought that only porn stars and the odd lush shave their pubes!

It's no different to shaving legs or arms or plucking your eyebrows. I assume those horrified at people shaving their pubic hair have hairy legs and arms?

waterlego6064 · 09/07/2018 16:10

Thank you for info Penguin!

bellinisurge · 09/07/2018 16:11

@SickOfSitting - nope . Armpits and legs shaved. Because everyone gets to see them. I chose who gets to see my pubic area.
You're not quite getting why people do things differently, yet.

HelenaDove · 09/07/2018 16:16

"It's no different to shaving legs or arms or plucking your eyebrows. I assume those horrified at people shaving their pubic hair have hairy legs and arms"

i have hairy legs because i cant afford to have them waxed . Shaving makes me sore.

i have my hair coloured. i have my chin waxed. sometimes i have my underarms waxed. i CANT AFFORD it ALL.

if a date/man wanted me to have a wax/hair free legs he can damn well pay for it.

and if he expected me to shave even though it makes me sore he would be thinking of his own sexual gratification and not my skin health. so it would be bye bye dickhead.

SickOfSitting · 09/07/2018 16:23

No? Then it would be hypocritical to judge those who remove their pubic hair if you remove hair for vanity reasons too. Saying "but no one will see my fanjo" isn't really an argument.

I still preferred to shave when I was single and no one was going to see it. I preferred it so I did it anyway. No one is going to see my legs because i always wear either trousers or tights but i don't like the feel of hairy legs. I also don't wear tops where my arm pits are on show but I don't like the look/feel of hairy underarms so I shave.

If you shave anywhere on your body then you are no different/superior to anyone else.

SickOfSitting · 09/07/2018 16:24

Most women don't remove it for a man! Plenty of single women still shave!

bellinisurge · 09/07/2018 16:27

Didn't say I was superior. Just that I make a different choice which I think is reasonable.
Wonder why you think anyone is getting at you?

Roussette · 09/07/2018 16:31

Of course it's an argument Sitting! The visible parts are dealt with for obvious reasons - they're visible!

And no one has said they're superior... where on earth did that come from?

I'm not just cottoning onto it... I have adult DDs but they aren't obsessed with removing every pubic hair.

The man you know in his 50s sitting obviously likes hairless because of porn.

You call it the norm thing to do now. Norm to you, not necessarily to everyone.

BlueBug45 · 09/07/2018 16:32

@SickOfSitting I'm not very visibly hairy so I don't shave my legs and only shave my armpits if I remember. I did spend a couple of years sugaring my armpits in my 20s so the hair is now very thin when it does grow back. I actually suffered from lots of ingrown hairs in my armpits regardless what hair removal method I used, so I thought no way am I doing more than a bikini line on my pubes.

Oh and I actually remember in my 20s men looking shocked and in a minority of cases disgusted when they could see some woman's leg hair. They never made comments to the woman concerned though.

bananafish81 · 09/07/2018 16:33

Of course Brazilians are a fashion - I wouldn't have given it a go if it hadn't been part of fashion / popular culture, because it wouldn't have been on my radar, and there wouldn't have been anywhere to get it done

I suspect it was a combo of magazines, Sex and the City and conversations with friends that prompted me to first try a full Brazilian (instead of just a regular high bikini line), when I was at the salon for my leg and bikini wax. I wasn't dating so it wasn't influenced by wanting to please blokes with an expectation from porn. And DH certainly didn't express a preference for it (actually quite the reverse)

I just wanted to see what all the fuss was about.

Then I discovered how much I liked the result, and how good it felt! DH was a bit forlorn when I first had it done, as he thought it was womanly before. But he recognised it was my body and wasn't for him to ask me to do or not do anything with my body on his account! He got used to the look soon enough - I asked him if he thought it looked pre pubescent, he said that he was a bit startled at first, because he was used to it au naturel before: but that my body and genitals were very obviously that of a grown woman with or without hair, so there was never a question of feeling uncomfortable about resembling a pre pubescent child.

I kept going to get waxed because I really really like the feel of it. No one sees my bits apart from DH and medical professionals - but I'm the one who lives with them and wears knickers every day, and like the feeling better without hair underneath. So yes of course it was influenced by fashion the first time, but I kept going for me (and was enabled to do so because the fashion for waxing meant there were loads of salons that offered it)

Happily, years of waxing meant it stopped growing back so now there's little to no maintenance required to stay smooth!

HelenaDove · 09/07/2018 16:37

Sitting if a woman showed up on First Dates with hairy legs Twitter would really lose its shit.

Iggi999 · 09/07/2018 16:43

I don’t need to introduce a stranger to my labia in order to shave my legs/underarms.

JAPAB · 09/07/2018 16:49

Of course it's an argument Sitting! The visible parts are dealt with for obvious reasons - they're visible!

Everything is visible when you are sleeping with someone (well a lot of the time anyway). No rule says that only the bits visible to a general audience need to be tended in accordance with whatever is seen as aesthetically pleasing.

Anyway, let's hope porn-makers do not decide, on a whim, to put all their stars in clown make-up. This would inevitably lead, given enough time, to it becoming normal to wear clown make-up when having sex.

Except that it wouldn't happen because there is no sufficient section of people who would actually like that. Whereas plenty of people doo prefer the look/feel of less or no hair in certain places.

NinetySixer · 09/07/2018 16:50

Although the modern resurgence of bald fannies may have come from porn I’m pretty sure that the Romans nor 18th French Aristocrats were watching James Dean rock out with his cock out on their iPhones when the fashion for shaving and waxing all body hair off arose.

Those who go on about hair removal being ‘all about porn’ or ‘reflective of prepubescent girls’ really should educate themselves. Your determination to prove that hair removal isn’t a personal choice but rather subconscious misogyny is not only misongynistoc but fucking patronising.

bellinisurge · 09/07/2018 16:50

So @JAPAB , chill out if someone acts differently to you .