Hairless foofs

[Ginismyfriendx]

So can't sleep and watching naked attraction (please do judge me, I deserve it)
Are completely bare foofs a thing now? Having had a nasty experience of an ingrown hair from shaving bikini line (which required anti-biotics) why go through that? Nevermind the faff. Who want's an evening shadow on their lady bits?
All for a bit of pruning, but uprooting?

Leave other women alone

Quite, applies to both sides too. Including the utterly infantile sniggering about “spiders” and going “urgh” upthread which have been conveniently ignored

Jacques have you had new partners in that time?

It is absolutely the case that many young men dislike pubic hair on women and most will request you remove it, or they are reluctant to give oral sex. It didn't used to be the case, but in the last few years this has changed.

The more women remove it, the less used to seeing it the men become and it's a self fulfilling cycle.

I am old enough to have started my sex life before hair removal was popular and things have definitely changed.

I think that a lot of very clued up teenage girls are against the whole Kardashian / porno look of women. Thank goodness.

SoddingUnicorns I'm with you there. As well as the insinuation that you will be covered with dried blood and sweat if you don't get rid of pubic hair! Really horrible and offensive. Would people saying that say it to their mothers? Their teenage daughters who don't want to shave the hair off?

Pubic hair removal for men is also increasingly popular.

@Missillusioned yes, I’ve had new partners. I’ve had more partners whilst hirsute than hairless. No difference in sexual experience.

*everyone seems to be arguing for freedom of speech..”

I’m all for freedom of speech. I wouldn’t be proud of my daughter for using casually sexist terminology and would seek to get to the bottom of why she thought that was appropriate.

Missillusioned - request you remove it? How would they phrase that? "I really like you but unless you remove your bodily hair I can not have a sexual relationship with you." Answer: "Okay then. Bye."

As well as the insinuation that you will be covered with dried blood and sweat if you don't get rid of pubic hair!

Exactly! Also conveniently ignored.

I guess people see what they want to see to suit their agenda eh?

Sodding, I keep seeing a reference to 'spiders' from you. Why not take it up with the poster who said that since it has repeatedly offended you. I'm not the poster and I've said nothing as an attack to any woman here. None.

Cosylulu I won't say what I think of your daughter but I would not be proud if my child said something like that and nor would I been so rude as to repeat it to be offensive. Your posts are offensive to me.

As well as the insinuation that you will be covered with dried blood and sweat if you don't get rid of pubic hair! Really horrible and offensive

I’m not insinuating other women are covered with dry blood. I’m saying I was when I had a menstrual condition. Except it didn’t get to dry blood, as I used to have to have a full shower every time I flooded in day 1/2. Now it’s easier for ME to deal with.

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe you’ve repeated attacked any woman who doesn’t remove their hair as a “side” and made several disparaging comments, while conveniently ignoring the many snide and nippy comments from the other “side”.

If you can’t take it, may I suggest not dishing it out?

JacquesHammer from BertrandRussell

"I prefer mine neat but with a strip of hair a sideways moustache grin"

Does the strip not get absolutely clogged with blood and sweat?

@soddingunicorns

Changing something about yourself in order to please your partner is absolutely subservient. If they value you at all they won’t want you to change yourself.

Is it always? I can understand that response if they’d outright said ‘I want you to do this’. But knowing your partners preference and deciding yourself to change a particular detail knowing they’ll like it isn’t a bad thing surely?

It’s like wearing an outfit you’ll know they’ll like, or putting extra chilli in a meal how they like, or buying them their fave beer on a Friday, etc.

Little choices made without pressure to make your partner feel a bit special.

I know my partner does things that are not necessarily his thing and vice versa, and I love that we do that for each other. There is no discomfort and nothing’s done under duress.. it’s done out of a mutual want to please each other.

Fine if others don’t want want to that, but why’s it so frowned upon if some people do?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe I won't be losing any sleep over your disapproval of my teenage daughter's teenage remarks.

Little choices made without pressure to make your partner feel a bit special.

Absolutely. Changing the way you look isn’t little.

cosy if you do online dating it's a common question before you even meet!

I don't meet with people who ask this, but I have slept with men who asked afterwards if I would consider removing my pubic hair for next time because they prefer it.

' I love going down on a woman, but I just can't if there's hair' - that sort of thing.

Does the strip not get absolutely clogged with blood and sweat?

Bertrand is not on the “hair free” side...

"Aggressive and intrusive posting from women who want to police what other women do"

I do not want to police what other women do. I want people to think about why they do things. What influences their choices. And I want women to stop telling other women that pubic hair is gross, dirty, unhygienic and smelly. If you find having no pubic hair feels nice and improves sex for you- (and this does not include doing it because otherwise men won't go down on you) then fantastic. But don't tell other women you are cleaner than they are because you wax. You are seriously deluded if you think that contributes in any way to making free choices. The post saying for example, "who wants a huge sweaty bush" is just the sort of thing to make even more women embarassed to go for smears or feel they have to apologise to the midwife.

Also, the ganging up on BertrandRussell is bordering on playground bullying.

Why is she repeatedly targeted? Is it because her name is well known?

Either way, it’s getting fucking nasty.

Oh what is the point. The dense on this thread just cannot get their little heads around the fact that other women's chemistry is different to their own. They just can't accept that other women have a different point of view and have to lash out at them.

Some agenda. Is this the best you can do for feminism? Insult any women who do not want to keep their pubic hair? Because that's what it's boiling down to... and we get called 'hoes' too. Lovely. That's some 'team' there. Emily Davison must be spinning wondering why she bothered.

Misillusioned I just can't get my head around where you're coming from. We're probably different generations. But I would HATE my dd to feel she had to change her body at the request of someone's sexual preferences.

@SoddingUnicorns

Is there a “ganging up”?

Fucking hilarious from a poster who has used perjorative words throughout the post to describe those who disagree and then claimed not to.

Then started whinging about being offended. Fucking priceless.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe feminism. What does that word mean to you really?

Sodding, I saw the ganging up on EdmundCleverClogs earlier on when I read the thread. Now that was nasty. Bertrand is provocative. Wants to be provocative. As do you, I think.

Leave women alone and this will all go away...