To be sick of this 'it's coming home' nonsense

[autumn57565]

It's not coming home. Who ever said England is home? It makes us look idiotic to the rest of the world. Someone on the radio said they really believe England is going to win this year. The rest of the world must be pissing themselves looking at England cheering over such a mediocre team and having such delusions of grandeur.

It also seems to make people behave like hooligans. I've seen some crazy driving before the matches start, and people were making noise until the early hours last night.

It's just a game! We never get this excited about the olympics, Wimbledon or even Rugby.

I think the mistake people are making is mixing up excitement with the world cup and the ENDLESS chanting of the same line of song from 20 years ago.

I don't love football but Ive enjoyed watching the team play. Gareth Southgate seems a very nice man. It was genuinely exciting watching the last 2 games and we have enjoyed watching them with my family.

I also love the lightening seeds!

However last night I went to a music festival and between evry song groups were shouting that same fricking line of what is possibly the lightening seeds worst ever song! It properly got on my nerves.

So that song can do one.

I also have a lot of sympathy for those who are worried about the way football is highjacked by some morons as an excuse for antisocial behaviour. I grew up with a father who was a football "supporter" in the late 70's and early 80's. He too was a moron who used football as an excuse to get shitfaced and beat up stuff/ other people. Unfortunately the tribalism ( and the hot weather) seems to bring out the worst in people.

So what if people are excited about the football? Our team are doing really well. Certainly not ‘mediocre as someone else on here has labelled them. Live and let live. It looks like some people are looking to use this as an opportunity to have a moan and make disparaging remarks about England. If you hate it here so much OP then just pick a country you wouldn’t be embarrassed to call home and move there instead.

Personally I still prefer World in Motion with New Order from the 1990 world cup.

I absolutely love it, the football, the songs, the chat it generates.

Come on ‘arry!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️🏆

Best football song ever is Vindaloo!

We watched the game in the pub yesterday and left about 9pm.

We had quite a few drinks, but spaced over the day. Walking home, we saw a group of people saying goodbye to their friends, we assume they had all watched the match / had a barbecue, a few drinks together.

We live in a friendly neighborhood and often say hello to people we don't know, in passing.

I just said 'It's coming home' as a greeting. It summed up the day, the mood and the general good spirits that I have been feeling.

There have always been yobs, but don't let them hijack something good and taint it for the majority.

I'll say it again - It's coming home!

Love it SoVeryOuting.

The World Cup is once every four years ffs, it's sad that you can't understand people's enjoyment at the England team doing well.
It's brilliant.
I hope it's coming home! We could do with a bit of happy for a change.

When does "unity" and feelgood become enforced conformism?

With you, Wrongontheinternet.
Football's fine. I the games and enjoy them. But the hive mind element is disturbing. And denying - rather than evaluating/considering/addressing - the association between football and violence, and the dark sides of "patriotism", is bizarre.

National teams are always a bit mediocre because they don't get much training time together.

Football is, however a game where luck can play a part and therefore sometimes poorer sides can beat strong sides. This is why the FA Cup is so popular, and why everyone went crazy for Leicester winning the Premier League.

I think England have put in some good performances and seem cool headed. I like that Southgate has taken risks, and not picked the obvious team. It's also really exciting to take part in a shared experience like this.

You're really missing out OP.

I do think, wrongontheinternet, that it's very interesting to quietly watch the hysteria, though. There's something really fascinating about how so many people like to clan together over this (I'm sure there must be a lot of psychological processes in common with war).

I often see smashed windows and fist fights near pubs after games

Yes. And those happen in days without football. In towns without a team.

It seems though that you are determined to blame football @WrongOnTheInternet Not men and alcohol which is the real cause

In South American countries players have been murdered for making mistakes. Whole parts of cities sometimes erupt in violence after local derbys. Unsuccessful Brazilian coaches have had their houses burnt down.

Drunken riots have happened after US college sports meetings.

Grumblers, do remember to include much of the rest of the world in your high-minded attack on all things popular.

And denying - rather than evaluating/considering/addressing - the association between football and violence, and the dark sides of "patriotism", is bizarre

I rather think we need to add men and alcohol into the mix.

I rather think we need to add men and alcohol into the mix.

I agree, JacquesHammer. I use the word association deliberately - not saying football is the cause, just a consistently associated factor.

Mike I did start watching the science of irrationality stuff as it started, I must look it up again. Unfortunately I think it's going beyond academic though, there's so much of it about in Britain at the moment don't mention the Brexit especially not to those telling us pick another country and leave

As far as the comments about there's violence outside football, therefore the known links between football and violence can safely be dismissed, I only have one thing to say. AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHH.

There. I feel better. Without having to smash up town centres or medical vehicles, I might add.

As far as the comments about there's violence outside football, therefore the known links between football and violence can safely be dismissed, I only have one thing to say. AAAAARRRRRRRGGGGHHHH

I don’t believe it should be dismissed. But the constant “football fans do x” is utterly tiresome.

I’ve been a witness in court in 2003 after getting caught up in hooliganism at a football match. Not one of the defendants (all who were ultimately convicted) had a ticket for the match. They were drunken louts who saw an opportunity to cause trouble.

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Footballs coming home 🎼

As far as th the comments about there's violence outside football, therefore the known links between football and violence can be safely dismissed

Absolutely nobody said that

That's exactly what they've been saying.

No they haven’t.

IT'S COMING HOME

Yes. And those happen in days without football. In towns without a team

Yes they have.

"I don’t believe it should be dismissed. But the constant “football fans do x” is utterly tiresome."

"It seems though that you are determined to blame football @WrongOnTheInternet Not men and alcohol which is the real cause"

It's associated. Statistics prove that football=fans violence. There are many examples of players - not necessarily those in the national team, I don't follow it enough to know - who are fully integrated in the game who have committed violence. There's a concurrent thread about the sexism associated with violence.

You can argue about first causes for as much as you like, but the correlation is undeniable.

Concurrent thread about sexism associated with football, that should have been.