Wedding day....England are playing?????

[arghhhhhhh]

Just been on fb and someone I know (though not well and I am nit invited to the wedding!) is getting married on Saturday. Obviously England are playing.

She has it a status on saying she has had multiple requests from guests wanting to know if the football will be shown.

Her status basically says she's angry at the messages she's had and under no circumstances will the football be shown. It's her wedding and the day is about that and that only. She's asked that no one checks their phones during the match and is even going to have a sign made for when people enter the venue as a reminder it's a football free zone.

Now she's had a fair few comments - a couple even say they wouldn't attend if they were invited due to her attitude.

What's everyone's opinions?

Me personally, I'd show it! I love football though, I've followed the World Cup through out and I'd be gutted if I couldn't watch it! I'd be making arrangements with the venue to make sure it's on.

The atmosphere would be amazing. I'd be jumping around with everyone else in my dress.....

Also a great way to break up the day. The day goes so fast for the bride and groom but the day guests....it can be such a long and tiring day. What a great way to break up the day!

Also, we are doing well, we haven't been in this situation where we may actually have a good chance of WINNING!!!! for years and probably never will again. The whole country is routing for them. Even people who don't like football are into it. I just don't think it's fair to expect people not to watch it, or not even check their phones!

Saying that....I do understand this lady's frustrations. She's been planning this wedding for over a year. I got married quite recently and know the stress etc of planning....but yeah, wouldn't make any difference to me. I'd be so excited for it to be shown!

Opinions? Is she being unreasonable? It's her and her partners day at the end of it.....I'd be worried my guests wouldn't show up though....

Cheeky, you have made it very clear that you don’t see the point in watching sport. But millions do it, and get something out of it. We don’t have to understand it to accept that it is important to a lot of people.

It's such an empty victory, I feel desperately sorry for those on here who stress such importance on something so inconsequential as the result of a 'football match'

Imagine affecting to feel sorry for people who you know nothing about, because you've taken it upon yourself to decide whether the thing that they're enjoying isn't important. Gosh.

chocolate, football was likely invented by multiple different groups in different locations around the world (clearly it’s kind of instinctive!)

There is so much sneering here about football spectators. It’s frustrating and really rude.

If the English were the first to formalise football into an official game, then I guess that’s why it is claimed as our invention. Which is logical.

Cheeky, I’m glad you had a nice time with your neighbours, and it was very kind of to invite your new neighbour to watch the game.

You still can’t resist being a bit sneery though, I notice; speculating that said neighbour was frustrated by not being able to discuss the match afterwards. I expect he was pleased to have been able to watch it, and pleased his team won. Did he express annoyance at not being able to have a debrief, or is that just your projection again?

The modern game of association football, the one being played now at the world cup, is English. The rules were codified in England and evolved from the medieval English game.

There are certainly games that fully or partially involve/d kicking a ball that are older, but soccer did not directly evolve from them.

CheekyCapsicum
You can't really jump up and down and cheer on your own. Can you? Ha ha yes. Yes, you can. If you didn't hear him shouting it might have been because that was one of the dullest matches in this World Cup.

arghhhhhhh Please let us know if there've been any relevant posts on facebook since the wedding. I doubt I'm the only one here curious about how things went.

Cheer the f**k everyone

The World Cup is a major sporting event for many countries. Football is played the world over. There is a lot of passion surrounding the game.

We have got further in this tournament this year than for 28 years and with a young manager only in post for 2 years.

Cheer the fk up even

Imagine affecting to feel sorry for people who you know nothing about, because you've taken it upon yourself to decide whether the thing that they're enjoying isn't important. Gosh.

Oh come on, foolish comment of the thread has to go to the person who said they didn’t trust anyone who wasn’t excited about the World Cup . That’s utterly barking. Gosh indeed .

But I don’t feel sorry for football fans fwiw. I get why they’re excited. I just don’t happen to be. Shifty fucker that I am . Don’t trust me an inch sports fans! Not.to.be.trusted.

Like many people in the part of England where I live, I’m not actually English. Do we get let off for not being excited? Or are we doubly untrustworthy I wonder?

Rhubarb
I certainly trust you a lot more than the feckers that have caused damage to an ambulance car

There's been a fair amount of competition for that slot rhubarb. I'd like to give an honourable mention to everyone who claimed that the close family members could easily just have refused the invitation in case England were playing and problem solved.

But yes, the post you mention was ridic, and you'll note I said days ago that neither the people claiming not to understand why people like football nor the people claiming the opposite came out well.

However, in a thread full of bluster, imbecility and snobbery, chocolate's most recent offering is undoubtedly making a late run for the thread awards.

Yes.

I agree with posters who are pointing out it is a rather silly on to be so sneerly dismissive of the World Cup.

I wonder if they are as ignorant of and dismissive towards other major events? It certainly suggests that they either do not watch the news, or are hopelessly out of touch with RL, or are so convinced they are right that they cannot see out of their bubble. Actually, having written that, I think it explains quite a lots of other posting trends on MN.

To stay on a football theme, there was a poster who said that, despite being a Times 'reader' she was unaware of the World Cup until she read about it in MN. Turned out that she looks at The Times site but didn't notice stories she was uninterested in, even when front page and with photos. And had bnever noticed any of the many public WC-related displays.

If there is a modern trend to pay attention only to those things you approve of, rather than paying attention to whole news broadcasts, then yes you will end up with a narrower perspective, and that is - when it's more serious a subject than sport - the pathway to bigotry.

The backstories invented for this bride (and I stress 'invented') show how far some might strain to somehow prove a point.

All we really know is that the bride is upset and has posted something on FB which OP thinks is a huge overreaction. And it sounds as if it is.

No, I don't think that event arrangers can/will/should always check every possibility of clashes, whether it is for events which are e well ahead, or others which just occur (after all, a major death would be just as effective at changing the mood of an event), no more than I think responders should. And of course it was only known to be an England date a week or so ago.

Of course the bride is going to feel miffed, and hat's because at heart she could do nothing whatsoever about it. Something came up, a wee or so ago, pretty unexpectedly and is a huge deal across England. Even some people who don't like football are getting bound up in the event, and the spectacle, and the difference in mood. Her wedding will always be remembered as 'the one when England were playing' and he's going to have to come to terms with it.

Banning mobile phones is not a realistic way to come to terms with anything.

Incidentally, my spouse isn't English either, and isn't supporting England. Yet he's still extremely excited about the world cup and has enjoyed watching it. Anyone would think football was the most popular sport on the planet or something...

As for the vandalism in the news: I am more than happy to condemn that. But you can’t blame football, I don’t think. Binge drinking is a huge problem, football or no football. I remarked to my daughter yesterday morning that I feared A&E depts would be bursting at the seams last night. I haven’t checked any stats, but would assume that was the case as it sadly usually is on a warm and sunny weekend day on which there is a major sporting tournament. Many Brits just can’t handle hot weather and booze.

I don’t blame Islam for terrorism and I don’t blame football itself for the bad behaviour of some of its fans.

I would like to see custodial sentences for those who damaged the ambulance. I guess that’s sadly unlikely, but it is obviously an appalling thing to do, and deserves a harsh punishment.

GameOfMinges

You disagree with me condemning damage to an ambulance car? Well what an absolute charmer you are. Here - have the trophy

Nah chocolate, it's just I was temporarily so blinded by your snobbery and you embarrassing yourself by getting basic facts about the history of football wrong that I missed your token not objectionable post. Your own fault, really.

As for the winner, I'll let you know in perhaps a few dozen posts. We still have quite a lot more time for not so thinly veiled class prejudice, invention, and people getting pretty basic thingswrong that would've taken them about 30 seconds to google thus far. I'm optimistic.

What a boring world it would be if everyone always bowed to the majority. It's attitudes like on here that turn people against football.

I'm not bothered either way but reading this thread.... those who are not interested in it should always bow to those who are cos it's the majority opinion? (Which is what I am getting here) Just wow!!

@DramaQueenofHighCs

I don’t think anyone should “bow” to popular opinion.

I think it’s fairly tedious for people to continue making the snide comments about football fans as part of some misplaced superiority complex.

Like football. Don’t like football. I don’t care.

Well I was at Pride yesterday, and while there may have been some people checking their phones from time to time while the football was on (and I think there was at least one group of marchers celebrating LGBTQ football lovers) there were thousands and thousands of people not watching men's football on televisions. Just after we finished the parade and went to a nearby pub, there was a bit of yelling from inside the pub and some of us went, 'oh, suppose that's the football match. I think the two team members who are interested went and checked what had happened, but the rest of us just got on with what we were doing.

Indeed jacques. The key point to remember is as follows. Not liking football= not dickish. Different strokes etc. Being very pleased with yourself for not liking football= dickish.

English fans tend to be more dickish than fans from many other countries. I remember England playing my home country and my city was thrashed when England didn’t win. I associate English football fans with fat bellies and tattoos.

My DSis's married her XH on the day when England beat Germany 5-1. Some of the guests kept sneaking out of the reception to watch the football. (The marriage broke up 2 years later, so it hardly matters in hindsight!).

What a bunch of horrible sneery people congregated on this thread. Why on earth is there such nastiness towards people who enjoy a sport?

Lots of comments about how England winning won't change any ones life. How it's ridiculous to cheer on men running around a field kicking a ball. Enjoy watching a film? How stupid, its not going to change your life. Appreciate art? Ridiculous, it's just marks on a surface. Love music? Pathetic. Oh, you like going to the theatre? Absolute waste of time, watching people you don't know pretend to be more people you don't know.

How about, if you don't like football, you don't watch it? No need to be an arsehole towards people who do.