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to ask how bio-mums feel about step-mums?

311 replies

InaccessibleB · 01/07/2018 21:37

I'm a step-mum. I try my best to help look after DSD. We get on great. I pick her up from school every other week. Take her out and look after her when DP is out (I'm talking if he nips to the shops or has a weekend meeting). I try to be the step-mum she needs and a good partner to DP. I never overstep the mark and know that I am not her mother.

I am met with a lot of issues. DPs ex trying to get a court order to say only he can get her from school, asking for her not to be left alone with me, telling DSD that she's not to let me dress her or bathe her etc (she's only 6, I'm a normal woman, and being made to feel like a weirdo if I want to bathe my DSD who asks for me to bathe her instead of DF as it's more 'fun')

I keep seeing these AMA threads and I actually want to ask YOU as biological mothers a question about how you feel about step-mums to your children? I'm struggling to feel accepted as a part of her life and want to try and understand this from her mum's perspective. Very open question and I'm hoping for some open answers...

OP posts:
Lizzie48 · 02/07/2018 10:47

My DSis is a stepmum and also has 3 DC of her own with her DH. Her DSS is now 21 and a father himself. She was primary carer to him for a number of years as him mum moved away with her new partner. The relationship was tough at times, especially as he was a teenager at the time and played her and his mum against each other. His mum got wise to it, though, and they developed a good working relationship eventually.

She loves him every bit as much as her own DC, and expected us to see him in the same way as our own nephews and nieces. This wasn't realistic, because he had his mum's family and didn't ever become close to us, although he was lovely with our DDs.

I don't see why it's such an issue for you to be involved with bath times and the school run, OP. After all, grandmas and babysitters can do that, and childminders do the school run. We had an au pair for a few months and she did that herself. Your DSD knows very well who her parents are.

You sound like a lovely stepmum. Smile

Winter7 · 02/07/2018 10:48

I think being a step parent is a bloody hard role. My kids step mum is awesome and I am so grateful to her for loving my children and helping look after them so well. She and ex aren't married but I don't think that matters - she is still a step parent to my kids.
I find that issues arising are often when people find it hard to separate parenting relationships from personal relationships, for example, a step parent being excluded due to conflict between parents.

Herewegoagain01 · 02/07/2018 10:54

Tbh I get on well with my ex’s dp, and my ex gets on well with my dh. It’s all very friendly which helps. If I had a poor relationship with my ex it’d probably be different and I’d view the ‘step-mum’ in a less favourable way. My dh (ds’s step-Dad) has been in his life for 8 years and treats him no differently from our children. However proper parenting issues e.g. school, discipline beyond usual stuff, and life changing decisions are always dealt with by his actual dad and I

Talith · 02/07/2018 10:55

XH's girlfriend is a nice enough person so I don't have any animosity towards her. It's complex though because being separated from your children for part of the week is, initially and for a while really really fucking painful. It's worse if you feel as if you've been replaced in your kids affections because a new fun person is looking after them.

Of course it's to the kids benefit for their dad to be happy, and to have another caring person in their lives so we have to have a word with ourselves and deal with it. But it can be difficult and so perhaps the odd outburst or comment is inevitable, particularly in the early days. You've started a new exciting relationship. The mother has had her world torn in two. There's somewhat of an inbalance.

I do think step mums do a great job, and deserve respect.

BigusBumus · 02/07/2018 10:58

I've been a step-mum to my step son for 13 years, since he was 2.5yrs. His mother had an affair and left my DH, but found it very hard when he moved on with me within a year. I think she wanted to be able to come back to him if things hadn't worked out with the OM, which it didn't, so she was left single.

Even though we always knew ours was a life-long relationship (and still is) and had a baby very quickly, she always prevented DSS using the term Step-Mum, which I found very odd when I was basically parenting her small child along with my own 2 boys. We married 3 years ago and suddenly its OK for me to have the label Step-mum, I don't get it really..... Anyway, she was really awful to DSS about me, when he would arrive I had to wait for him to start talking to me as she had filled his head with "don't talk to dad's GF, she doesn't want you there" and stuff like that all the way to our house. He would quickly come round and have great weekends with us, his step-brother and half-brothers. We never used those terms though, they were/are just brothers.

Six years ago when he was 9.5, she upped and left, moving 200 miles away and just dumped him at ours. We were thrilled tbh, but it was a rocky ride for DSS. Now he's nearly 16, has very little contact with his mum and doesn't bother correcting people if they refer to me as "your mum". However, even though he says stuff like, "well you're basically my mum though aren't you" I have always said, "well no, you still have a mum, I just do the mumming"! So I want him to know that I have never tried to take her place, but on the flipside of that I will take care of him like my own sons. I love him dearly.

She is still nasty about me, I see stuff she's written about me on FB, calling me a bitch etc. I really don't understand why. I have looked after her boy for her very well and for a long time, but I'm a bitch? Confused

My Exh didn't have a partner until fairly recently, but if he had have I would have been so pleased that my own DS had a step-mum who would hopefully have cared for him like her own child, not still calling her "dads GF" after 10 years together and calling her a bitch.

LadyRussell · 02/07/2018 11:03

My two elder children have a step mum who has always gone out of her way to make life hell. I do actually hate and and my now adult children see the way she has driven a wedge between them and their dad (his fault too).

My younger sons step mum was the OW but she has always been lovely to my son so...

JoffreyBaratheon · 02/07/2018 11:05

There was a court order keeping their birth dad away from my kids for years but when he reached 17, the oldest asked me if he could start phoning messagng his birth dad. My husband has been his step dad almost all his life, has paid for everything, brought him up, stayed up all night when they were little and throwing up, etc etc (ex refused to pay for them then skipped abroad to Italy). So to my kids, their step dad simply IS their dad. Their birth dad just ("First Name").

I said son could do what he liked and he established contact. Phone call, then in the past year, texts.

At the same time my ex (who was never in the 16 year old's life and briefly in the 17 year old's) finally, after 16 years, met a new woman who my kids haven't spoken to directly but ex speaks of her and her opinions. And she has a LOT of opinions. Largely how he shouldn't give the kids money because they don't want to go and stay with them in Italy so "Why give money to children you don't know?"

Now whilst I'm aware this may be my ex putting words in the mouth of the soon to be stepmum - and using her as an excuse to avoid helping the boys out - I also think she might be a bit of a prat. The kids don't want to visit him (yet). He paid no maintenance for their entire lives and got away with it. He never managed to meet another woman (bombarded me with emails daily for a decade after we split til I finally got a court order). And within a few days of son contacting him, he suddenly had a 'friend' who then within weeks became fiancee.

My husband has been the best step dad in the world. Son told his birth dad he will always call his step dad 'dad' (my son is fairly blunt and direct). Because his dad brought him up. He adores his step dad. But is already wary of birth dad. And the fiancee, soon to be stepmum, does seem a bit dodgy although it's hard to gauge.

As a child I had a loathed step mother. But then she was a whackjob and seriously abused me (emotionally, and neglect). So I have very little time for step parents, no matter how well intentioned. And never meant to put my own kids in a situation where they'd have a step parent. But I did. And he's brilliant.

So it's down to the individual. A great person would make a great step parent. A shit person like my step mother and, potentially, my ex's bird - not so much.

Given the poison my ex's new squeeze keeps dripping in his ear about not supporting the kids (he was FINALLY giving them money after 17 years of not a penny) - I think she is going to be gunning for his oney and wants to get his kids out of the picture. It could just be him misreporting what she's saying. Either way I am worried about the mental state of a woman who'd settle for a man who nearly went to prison for harrassing his ex, over a sustained period, then is trying to stop him giving his kids money.

So straw poll from my life - 2 crap step parents, 1 decent.

JoffreyBaratheon · 02/07/2018 11:12

ETA: When my kids were younger and we were discussing this, I came up with the phrase "Father is as father does." which seemed to help us all get a handle on it. "First Name" was never their father or their dad. (He was a Fathers For Justice loony, more into his own rights than any responsibilities - inherited a London house worth a million quid and sits on a beach all day, but claimed benefits when in the UK so apparently, didn't have to pay for his kids).

But yes, father is as father does. Their dad and their father - is on paper, step dad. But he was and is and always will be 'dad'.

Also - it may be a generational thing but to me, when you marry someone you are their kids' step parent. Not until. No matter how many years you have been their 'common law' partner. My step mother is an evil shit. I wouldn't fight for the glory of the hororific 'step-' anything, in the light of my own experiences all those years ago as a step child.

JoffreyBaratheon · 02/07/2018 11:12

*honorific, although my typo is more appropriate for my lovely stepmother. So let it stand.

Idontbelieveinthemoon · 02/07/2018 11:16

DS1's Dad met his DP about 9 years ago. They're marrying soon so she'll be officially Step Mum then. But she's amazing and I have nothing but good things to say about her.

Step Parenting generally is a difficult path to tread; if you're too involved you can be wrong, if you're uninvolved you're also probably wrong. To truly love another woman's child is a hard, hard thing and I don't take for granted that DS1 has a Step Mum there who'll hug him when he's sad, feed him when he's hungry and love him in the best way she can. She's not his Mum, but she is the closest thing to it he'll have, and to be rude or disrespectful of her would cause him hurt and harm.

When Ex and I split up it was ugly for a short while with hurt and resentment on both sides. We both reached a point quite quickly where we realised we stood a good chance of screwing up DS1's childhood. It's not always so easy and both sides have to offer respect, compromise and kindness for it to work, but DS1 has ended up as a 12 year old who loves his Dad's DP, loves my DH, and we're all able to spend Christmas and birthdays together to celebrate with him. I can't imagine anything harder than having to miss out on birthdays and Christmas every other year because we're unable to share him.

Idontbelieveinthemoon · 02/07/2018 11:19

Also, DS1 calls my DH (DS2's Dad) Dad most of the time. There's no question he knows who his bio parents are, there's no question who his Dad is. But his bond with DH is a lovely thing to watch - DH doesn't do the bossy you-must-obey-me thing, he's just quietly loved and cared for him since he met him, and DS1 has responded by loving DH with a devotion I wouldn't have expected.

rainingcatsanddog · 02/07/2018 11:22

OP - Role Models are older, more experienced people who have achieved something worthy of a "wow". Being loved and respected by a child is not role model material. (That includes me too btw) Being a kind adult should be expected and is not extraordinary imo.

flamingofridays · 02/07/2018 12:06

god op your brave inviting out the ex wives brigade.

"are you a step mum or are you her dads girlfriend"

GET. A. GRIP.

Teggun · 02/07/2018 12:08

Bloody Hell OP you have been given a tough time on this thread.
If nothing else it demonstrates how complex and potentially challenging these relationships are. I can't believe how het up people are getting about the strict definition of 'step-parent'

My exP had children before I met him and I have a dd with him. I still have a relationship with his elder 2 who are adults and I regard them as family as they are my DD's (half) siblings.

ExP has been with his current wife since DD was a baby (now 13). But she has chosen not have a 'step mother' relationship with DD. This saddens me and hurts DD but its her choice. We are polite and see each other at family occasions e.g. she is always included at DD's birthday etc. Inevitably though, her decision affects DD's relationship with her DF. DD can't understand why he would marry someone who didn't see his DCs as part of the 'package'.

It seems clear from this thread that some mothers feel threatened by another woman caring for their DC. Maybe I would have felt that if ex's DW had wanted to be involved, I don't know.

But it is also the case that some SM's feel threatened by the exs. ExP and DD's SM had been together for nearly 5 years when they got married. DD was a bridesmaid. I gave them a card and a bottle of champagne as a wedding present and wished them well. I got DD dressed in her bridesmaid dress and did her hair ready to be picked up the morning of the wedding by exP's DM. ExP had arranged with me that I would collect DD from the reception party in the early evening. He asked if I'd come in and have a drink (reception was in the garden of a lovely local pub).

But ex's DM arrived that morning and was clearly upset. She had to tell me that SM had said she didn't want me coming to the pub even to collect DD. Fair enough, her choice, and I of course abided by that. But what a shame. And this has been the tone of our relationship throughout. She sees me as her DH's ex girlfriend not his a co-parent. I know this because I have received emails from her referring to me as such. And whilst true, it seems a strange thing to hang on to 13 years down the track.

Every situation is different and the complexities of the emotions makes it hard for everyone. It is great to read accounts where it works well.

JacquesHammer · 02/07/2018 12:17

OP - Role Models are older, more experienced people who have achieved something worthy of a "wow"

I couldn't agree less. A role model is anybody who models a good pattern of behaviour.

I find it really depressing that a role model should only be someone older or out of the ordinary Hmm

LolaL · 02/07/2018 12:24

I feel you've been given such an unnecessarily hard time on this thread. I don't have children but I do have an incredibly loving stepfather who, 14 years on, is giving me away at my wedding in a few days time.

From day 1, he never tried to be anything but a "friend" to me, he treated my sister and I like his own and always with respect, always putting us first. He always, always spoke highly and positively of my dad despite him being a total w*** and drove us miles to try and allow us to have a relationship with him.

It took some time for us to accept him but I think as long as you respect the wishes of DSD's mum you will be fine.

It sounds like you're doing everything you can, best of luck to you x

flamingofridays · 02/07/2018 12:30

and all this labelling annoys me to. I am not yet married to DP although we have been together for 6 years. According to this thread this means I am "dads girlfriend" and not a step mum.

however, out of all three adults in this situation (me, dp and ex) I actually have the most responsibility towards DSS. It is me who feeds him, washes his clothes, organises his schooling (along with dp)

his mother contributes £26 odd a week and nothing else, isn't interested in school, friends, whatever else. Is only interested when blabbing about how she has raised 3 kids all on her own (ha!)

he doesn't even have a bed at her house ffs.

I care FAR FAR FAR more than she does about him but I am still jyst "dads girlfriend" and she is his mother, only their is nothing motherly about her and she couldn't raise a fucking pot plant.

Padarn · 02/07/2018 12:36

not Reading the full thread but answering the original post.

I’m pleased by son had an extended support network. Life is hard and the more people you have to help the better.

She annoys me when she oversteps the mark and makes me want to slap her back to step mum not mum position however for reason one I smile and ignore it.

As a person she’s ok. Seems sensible and nice enough. Socialised a bit.

Friend? No because I’ll akwsys remember the lies she decided to spread about me.

But as a co-parent she’s ok which is all that matters.

TwoShades1 · 02/07/2018 12:52

I’m a step mum too and you sound fine. Pretty sure that my step kids mum doesn’t like me much but I’ve been with dp nearly 6 years so things are fairly settled. Last 2 years kids have gotten me Mother’s Day presents as she is pretty pushy with her partner being recognised as a step dad so has given me a bit more recognition. We keep things pretty separate, as in our house we do what suits us. If that means I pick drop the kids at school that’s how it is. But we extend the same to their Mum and it’s up to her and her partner how they do things at their house.

InaccessibleB · 02/07/2018 12:55

@LolaL at least it's answered some of my questions and made me realise that must mums who have an issue with step-mums do so not because they're worried about their child, but because they are jealous and concerned about another woman spending time with their child. That's fine, but not my problem to deal with. I will do what my DP seems as appropriate and to be honest, the idea of having to pay for a before and after school club or childminder so he can drop them off and pick them up (which is likely what a single mother would have to do) instead of letting his partner do it makes no sense at all. Especially when the only reason for it is to appease DSDs mum. So it's ok for a childminder to do it but not step-mum?

This thread has really made me realise that the issue is with her mum and not with me. Do I take a step back, ignore DSD, don't take her to school, don't help out with meals, hair brushing, fun stuff to appease her mum, upsetting DSD in the process? Or do I do what's best for DSD and just take her to bloody school! What harm could possibly come from her being in the car with me for 10 mins in the morning?

Some of the comments on this thread are so, so saddening.

OP posts:
HappyStep1 · 02/07/2018 13:28

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
You will never be their mum but as women we tend to take on parenting roles such as feeding, washing clothes etc.
I have been in DP children's lives for years, and have always been, X, never step mum, I try my best to make the time they have with their Dad happy and time they look forward to, although I can see from their Mum's point of view, it must be hard to have another woman in her kids life. To be honest, unless they are a shit parent they will never love another person more than they love their parents.
I love DP kids but as I don't have kids of my own really can't understand their Mum's behaviour at times. Have always made a point not to question her beliefs or criticise, they are not stupid and can draw their own conclusions.
Parenting is a tough job whatever your relationship status.

Wellfuckmeinbothears · 02/07/2018 14:44

I have two step daughters and when there here I bathe them, do their hair, read them stories but I am NOT their Mum and would never ever try to replace her. I love them and care deeply about them but I’m not their Mum. I bathe them because one of them is beginning to develop and she prefers me to do it but if their mum ever had a problem with that I would stop. I never want to step on her toes. She’s an amazing mum and a lovely lady.

Wellfuckmeinbothears · 02/07/2018 14:44

*they’re

My38274thNameChange · 02/07/2018 14:55

I have both sides of the coin.

As a stepmum I greatly dislike their egg donor bio mum because she’s a waste of space who only sees her kids when she can be arsed and has never paid a penny in maintenance in ten years. She’s a complete deadbeat.

DD has a SM, we get on reasonably well and tbh I’ve only ever been glad when they’ve had a good relationship and done things together. When they have spats though I’m fiercely defensive of my DD and greatly dislike her SM though...

ohreallyohreallyoh · 02/07/2018 15:05

made me realise that must mums who have an issue with step-mums do so not because they're worried about their child, but because they are jealous and concerned about another woman spending time with their child

So from a few posts on here, you have extracted that out of thousands and thousands of women worldwide who can describe themselves as 'mum' where there is a 'step mum' also on the scene, 'most' of them are just jealous their ex has moved on?

OK.

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