...to think it's rude of teachers at end of term declaring that they've earned their holiday/deserve a large glass of wine etc.....?

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Does it not imply that they think everyone's kids are little horrors and that it's such a hard job and we're not worthy?
Maybe all the kids are little horrors, maybe it is a hard job but they're getting paid for it. It was their choice! My job's hard too but I won't bang on about It.
I think it's quite insulting to the parents of the children. No? [hmmm]

If I had to contend with 20+ kids, my motto would be "a glass a class."

Oh feck off.

It's a job like any other. You'll often see people in any job posting about how it's holiday time, they've earned a break blah blah.

Just because they are teaching children doesn't mean that their pupils are always saintly and a delight to be around. They're not, they can be whiny and bold. The paperwork can be onerous. The parents can be a pain in the ass.

You may love your kids and want to spend all your holidays with them, but the teachers dont. They aren't their kids, they have an entire pack to deal with instead of a few - your kids are work to them. Just like anyone, it's great for teachers to get a break from work.

I didn't say it wasn't difficult! Being told to go fuck yourself is certainly not acceptable but perhaps the teachers in my dc's school (which yes I suppose I am talking about) with class sizes nearer 10 compared to the 30 which lego mentions, don't know they are living. Without stereotyping I can understand where most of you are coming from but where I live it's quite different.
Rachelteeth I wouldn't dream of saying thank fuck it's bedtime...I enjoy the time I have with my children and am grateful for it all. Will admit it's bloody hard but having them in the first place was bloody hard I'm lucky to have them so I'll not complain. I suppose I just don't think professionals should complain about their job when it involves looking after other people's children (with exceptions..detention centres at) but..... I accept that IABU so thank you all for your replied

So they're not allowed to voice their excitement of a holiday?

And also in most other careers everyone isn't on holiday at the same time. That's why you see an onslaught of posts from teachers - it's just a heavily concentrated amount and then there's a bit of camaderie in talking about unwinding over summer.

Medusa yours is clearly not the kind I refer to. I think we are very lucky with our little school, it's not comparable with 90% of the country so I suppose this is quite irrelevant now!

Yes I guess so Raven.

Wow! I can't believe anyone would have an issue with this.

Does it not imply that they think everyone's kids are little horrors and that it's such a hard job and we're not worthy?

No it does not. That is completely and utterly your own projection. I'm a parent and I'm not insulted. I'd happily fetch them a cork screw and glass!

They're people who work hard, celebrating having a break from that hard work. Most of us do it. In fact people who have much less stressful and demanding jobs do it. I bet you do it, not that you'd ever bang on about your hard job, naturally. YABU.

I just wish all the teachers here who are clearly at my suggestion were able to come to our school and see what I mean. I'm sure your job is not what I had in mind.

YABU!

Teachers deserve every penny they get, and every break too.

Bloody hard job!

Cross post with you OP

Teacher retention is apparently appallingly. I'm a former teacher and when I was teaching I could've told you the exact number of days to the next holiday. Was it due to the children.... Nope. They can be hard going, tiriing etc but I enjoyed that part of the job. The rest if it though, not so much.

Maybe it seems like an onslaught of posts as teachers all start their holidays at roughly the same time...?

just makes me think [hmmm] crikey is it that awful?

Yes, it is.

You may love your children dearly, And I do love my students, but by the end of term I am run ragged and need the first week (at least) to decompress and deal with whatever illness my body throws at me because I've finally slowed down for 5 minutes. I love my job, but it isn't easy. Every teacher has earnt their holiday. If you are still struggling, consider it time in lieu from working 7-7 when we get paid 8-4.

Wow op, have your dc teacher really been telling you this! All I get from my children's teachers is a hello, he's been good today, or something concerning school. Teachers are not in their role 24/7, their job is very stressful, not only about teaching, but lesson planning, targets, marking, Ofstead etc. They deserve a glass or two of vino at the end of the day. I would say that to anyone in any stressful job.

Have a . I’m sure the teachers can spare one.

It’s just a light hearted comment, I don’t think it can be taken personally.

Different schools have different pressures. Yours might look like a dream but you don’t know what the parents are like or whether SLT are always breathing down the necks of the teachers.

You’re really out of order here.

It's somewhat naive of you to assume that every child in a class of 12 is delightful and easy to teach - but, even if they were, teaching is still very hard work: they have to keep up with all their lesson planning and marking plus all the other planning and record-keeping requirements imposed on them by the government, plus things like dealing with parents, writing paperwork for children with SEN, and their own ongoing training. Then teaching itself involves essentially putting on a performance all day every day; in other jobs, you may well be able to get away with a quiet day if you feel a bit rough, but in teaching you still have those 12 (or whatever) children to keep fully occupied and you just have to get on with it.

I enjoy my job and I still look forward to my holidays. Why shouldn't teachers?

I don't work Fridays. Every Thursday night I celebrate with a bottle of wine. I'm not a teacher, I work for myself, I get to pick and choose lots of aspects of my job.

I still think 'thank fuck' on a Thursday night.

Get a life! they work hard and often take work home with them

But it doesn’t imply that the children are horrors, does it?!

Anymore than an accountant who has survived March and April hates months, or a doctor who has finished a rotation in gynaecology hates vaginas, or a clothing shop manager who has finished stock take hates clothes.

It surely just means they have come to the end of a task that tired them and they are looking forward to a break/celebration.

I work in a day nursery. I can't bloody wait to be on holiday
(though just one week) . Doesn't mean I can't stand the babies I work with . It's a mentally and physically draining job and just means I am looking forward to having a rest. I'd imagine teaching is 100 times harder than working with babies and they really do deserve their break.

Fuck me. I just spent this morning as a parent helper as our TA is off sick and we had to get 30 kids to walk a mile down the road (with horribly bad and ignorant drivers on that route) and spend an hour there on an activity, then walk another mile home. Never again (OK, yes, I probably will do it but....it was an eye opener) Our teachers are amazing, I don't know how the hell they do it every day, and they deserve far more than the 6 wks holidays that they get. (winning lottery ticket would be a start.) They definitely need more than a large glass of wine for starters.