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...to think it's rude of teachers at end of term declaring that they've earned their holiday/deserve a large glass of wine etc.....?

586 replies

Semisonic · 29/06/2018 23:46

Does it not imply that they think everyone's kids are little horrors and that it's such a hard job and we're not worthy?
Maybe all the kids are little horrors, maybe it is a hard job but they're getting paid for it. It was their choice! My job's hard too but I won't bang on about It.
I think it's quite insulting to the parents of the children. No? [hmmm]

OP posts:
silverpenguin · 30/06/2018 06:52

I can't imagine anyone getting worked up about this. It is a totally normal thing to say before annual leave at any place of work.

Belindabauer · 30/06/2018 06:52

Op- of course you should look forward to spending time with your own dc - they are your children!

They are not the teachers children so of course he or she will not feel the same about them.

doorframe32 · 30/06/2018 07:01

''Maybe all the kids are little horrors, maybe it is a hard job but they're getting paid for it. It was their choice! My job's hard too but I won't bang on about It.
I think it's quite insulting to the parents of the children. No? [hmmm]''

Eh you do know that teaching has 1 of the highest drop out rates in uk today out of any profession...and believe me the pay many of them are getting is laughable and it's not just the kids they need the break from it's all of it-marking, planning, bullying managers, long paperwork sessions...

SerenDippitty · 30/06/2018 07:01

OP YABVVU not to mention sanctimonious. I think it’s a basic human right to complain about your job. I wouldn’t want to do a teacher’s job. They deserve their holidays.

NelleB · 30/06/2018 07:02

I am currently in my third trimester, suffering from nose bleeds by the minutes, leading after a room of 60 3-5 year olds as well as teaching 30 repeception children out of that 60. It’s at least 30 degrees, the children are exhausted by 2pm and asking to go home. I have 7 children with special education needs, none of whom have specialist provision but at least 4 of them have a 50% delay. So not only do the teachers need it so do the children, we have 14 school days left!
I’d also like to add that I’ve had a tough year personally, we suffered a miscarriage during this school year and I didn’t have one day off work when it happened over a weekend so yes. However, if you think I won’t be in school over the summer holidays you’re massively deluded.
Can I just say that I also love my job!

SoddingUnicorns · 30/06/2018 07:05

Dealing with some of the shit you read on here from twatty parents and snowflake kids, lack of funding or support from higher ups and lack of resources I think they’re quite right!

Obviously some teachers are shit, but the majority aren’t. I couldn’t do what they do every day, I wouldn’t have the patience!

MyNameIsJane · 30/06/2018 07:08

I took a small class of 9 on for re-take Maths as I thought I could help and support them and it would be lovely. (I work in the rooms where they go to study so they all knew me and the calm behaviours I expect.)

Well, after the first session, I went and hugged four teachers in appreciation for all they do because it was awful! 😆

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WilburIsSomePig · 30/06/2018 07:12

I never understand the shit teachers get on here. 'Oh but it's their choice' is so often spouted. Most teachers I know love to teach, it's what they really love, but it's such a small part of the job these days. So much other crap goes with it, including (in my school) dealing with parents who give their children no boundaries at
home because it's 'up to school staff, I don't want to be the bad guy' (I shit you not).

TheWomp · 30/06/2018 07:14

YABU. Give them some wine. Give them lots of wine.

mrsb06 · 30/06/2018 07:14

It's not teaching the children that we complain about.

It's the pointless mountains of paperwork, the relentless target-setting and the busybody parents who have nothing better to do than sit and make up new ways to get offended...oh wait...

Crwban · 30/06/2018 07:14

I usually avoid Teacher posts on AIBU but I'm glad I've wandered onto this one.

Thanks everyone - you've restored my faith. I rarely post that I'm a teacher as we seem to be fair game for some.

WineBrewGinThanks to all workers, Mums, human beings! we're all doing the very best we can in a tough world.

echt · 30/06/2018 07:15

This will be one of those thread referred to as the conventional MN "adoration of teachers".
While the OP has made the classic post where she ascribes the ( apparent though never specifically described behaviour of a teacher) to all teachers.

And then lacks the courtesy to amend it.

And it is a thread of a very recent MNer.

Nuff said.

doorframe32 · 30/06/2018 07:15

''Eh? What gives you the idea that they think kids are horrors?....We don't think the kids are horrors. 99.9% are gorgeous, lovely human beings.''

Easy to say if you are in a good school, some challenging schools the kids can be quite feral and complete nightmares to face.

Elliepurplestar · 30/06/2018 07:17

I doubt it’s because they think all the kids are ‘horrors’ etc, surely they wouldn’t be in the job if they felt that way. I think they are just exhausted and excited about their holiday. :)

BeansandSausages · 30/06/2018 07:20

Yabu. I buy them the wine. They deserve it.

Apparently NQTs only last about 2 years now. It's worrying!

0hCrepe · 30/06/2018 07:22

Laughing at the idea that it’s ok if you work in a detention centre! I worked in a centre for children with extreme behaviour and it was an incredible experience. Still wanted a glass of wine before a day off, as I do now. Children are amazing and a joy to teach, but they can sometimes be challenging and exhausting and you have to deal with every incident calmly whilst bearing in mind the safety of several other children and yes sometimes you do need to sit quietly and wind down after! The summer term and hot weather has quite an impact too. It’s not a reflection on your kids or a love of the job, but like all jobs there are days when you really feel the pressure.

AdultHumanFemale · 30/06/2018 07:23

As a PP mentioned, one particularly wearing aspect of teaching is constantly being in 'front of house' / 'performance' mode. No matter what happens, from the moment you greet the pupils in the morning, to dismissing them in the afternoon, you operate in this hypervigilant state of total availability and facilitation. You just can't have an 'off' day. Where I work, in an area of great deprivation, lots of the kids have 'off' days most of the time, and you need to be up to ensuring that at least the time they spend in school is as lovely, fun and affirming as possible.
In addition, the smallest thing has big repercussions in terms of time spent on sorting the aftermath out; I know the perimeters of my regular working day, but if a child forgets their swimming kit I have to spend an extra bit of time trying to contact their parents in the first instance to convince them to bring it, alternatively hunt down a spare kit (which I then have to take home and wash); any disciplinary issues take sooo much time to follow up; organising work for pupil to be able to complete out of class (relevant, not just a 'filler'), fill in the necessary paperwork, speak to parents etc, easily 20-25 mins. So every little anomaly adds something extra, and it soon mounts up.

Pengggwn · 30/06/2018 07:25

The kids aren't the issue. 90% of the time, when the child is difficult it is because the parent is not very nice.

Isleepinahedgefund · 30/06/2018 07:25

That sounds so very ungrateful to me. Do you have any idea how hard teachers work? Of all the jobs I know, they really, really earn their holiday. I’m not a teacher - I don’t need to be to appreciate what they do!

tempester28 · 30/06/2018 07:26

No I think they definitely deserve the wine!

ItsalmostSummer · 30/06/2018 07:27

I hereby declare that every parent sends a bottle (or two) of wine to a teacher by express post.

Believeitornot · 30/06/2018 07:27

YABU! It’s their holiday and they want a break.

It’s hardly national news headlines. I’m guessing you’ve seen this on Facebook or a public forum. Which are all just glorified echo chambers.

I know that it’s tough dealing with children, regardless of behaviour. I’ll be buying my son’s teacher gin Grin

AnElderlyLadyOfMediumHeight · 30/06/2018 07:29

Only read the OP. OFFS. So teachers are supposed to be serene angels and, importantly, on their knees with gratitude at the privilege of imparting knowledge to your/our kids. Not enough Hmm in the world.

A teacher who's a rounded human being is more likely to treat my kids as such.

Quite apart from the obvious point that someone can adore their job and still be bloody glad to get a break from it now and again.

MrsDesireeCarthorse · 30/06/2018 07:31

I work in a private school with tiny classes and no behaviour problems. Everyone still says this. You are being incredibly precious.

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