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AIBU?

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...to think it's rude of teachers at end of term declaring that they've earned their holiday/deserve a large glass of wine etc.....?

586 replies

Semisonic · 29/06/2018 23:46

Does it not imply that they think everyone's kids are little horrors and that it's such a hard job and we're not worthy?
Maybe all the kids are little horrors, maybe it is a hard job but they're getting paid for it. It was their choice! My job's hard too but I won't bang on about It.
I think it's quite insulting to the parents of the children. No? [hmmm]

OP posts:
pudcat · 30/06/2018 15:59

It's not the children usually, it's the planning, the records, the differentiation, the individual plans, the meetings and some parents who think it is a 9-3 job with long holidays. I used to spend the first week of summer hols finishing off any records and clearing classroom up. The next week was spent on housework, then 2 weeks away and the last 2 weeks going into school to get ready for the next class.

happypoobum · 30/06/2018 16:05

YABVU

crikey is it that awful?

Teachers are leaving the profession in their droves because the job has become incredibly stressful and most are totally overburdened with paperwork. Do you not read/watch the news OP?

Mammyloveswine · 30/06/2018 16:12

It's not the kids, it's the evenings and weekends of marking, planning, data and assessment... there is no downtime during term time.

I'm due back off maternity soon having spent much of my leave ensuring my two year old and 6 month old are in a routine of bed by 6.30 so that i have my evenings "free" for all the work I do...

I love people who have no clue telling me how "easy" my job is... Hmm

kes53 · 30/06/2018 16:15

Teaching is an extraordinary profession. Teachers are not given an established plan to obtain a lesson objective, they produce their own for every single lesson. They can't change tasks when lessons are proving difficult. They cant pop out of a lesson for a coffee or a piss when needed. The days timetable is not flexible. Mind and body dictated to by bells.Frequent outside influences that forever change the goalposts and demand more data,often used to judge unfairly the teachers' performance. When the body/mind is knackered they cant just take time off when needed. These kind of pressures,often in face of negativity at what they are trying to achieve , is why throughout the education system there is a collective sigh of relief when holidays arrive. I survived for more than 40 years..fuck knows how!

ShackUp · 30/06/2018 16:26

I'm a teacher and I never stop thinking about the job.

Summer holidays are spent worrying that results are going to be bad (OFSTED slated our dept because of a drop in results).

I'm mainly thinking about the trip I'm taking next week, and the safeguarding issues I've had to deal with this week.

Jellycatspyjamas · 30/06/2018 16:37

I gave my child’s teacher a bottle of gin with a card saying she has more than earned it - I don’t see anything rude about it at all.

ManicStreetTeacher · 30/06/2018 16:37

Yes, YABU. In the 20 years I've been a teacher I've celebrated every summer holiday - in the early days it was because I could relax, see friends and family in a way I couldn't at other points in the year; afterwards it was because I could spend so much time with my own children. I work bloody hard at my job, it's exhausting and, at times, really, really difficult. It's the 6 week break from that that I'm celebrating, no allusion to "horror kids" or the like (for what it's worth, I'm a sh*t hot teacher, so rarely have kids in my classes who stay "horrors" for long 😋).

There aren't many other professions where everyone gets a summer holiday at roughly the same time, so teachers celebrating is probably very noticeable at the minute. Are you jealous of our long holidays, perchance?

Anyway, I'm away to nurse my hangover from yesterday's end-of-term bash. 😉

Looneytune253 · 30/06/2018 16:39

Nope!! Teachers defo deserve to gloat about their holidays!!! It’s not just the little horrors, it’s also the paperwork, the red tape, the lack of downtime. They deserve every single drop of wine and every single comment about it lol. I’m a childminder and on one of the pages I’m on it’s a well used phrase. Time to open the wine!!

ManicStreetTeacher · 30/06/2018 16:49

Also, Semisonic, just reading some of your comments above. Just because a teacher has a smaller class size doesn't mean they have it easier than those with bigger classes. Sometimes my smaller classes are more intense and require far more minute-to-minute teaching than my classes of 33. It doesn't mean I get to sit on my arse more during that period, not by a long shot.

And at one of my children's end of term events at a very small rural school, I stood and sympathised with their class teacher about how knackered and in need of a holiday we both were, despite the fact he teaches less than a tenth of the pupils I do every day. Because I know that he works bloody hard for every one of his pupils, just like the vast majority of other teachers I know.

gdyuweoguo · 30/06/2018 16:54

Teaching jobs aren't just about looking after children, there's lesson plans to do, meetings, parents' evenings, marking etc etc....

I don't think it's rude at all.

Notevilstepmother · 30/06/2018 17:34

Have a Biscuit

I will have Gin

5 hours with hundreds of teenagers. Grin. Entertaining but exhausting.

MrMeSeeks · 30/06/2018 17:40

So teachers now can’t celebrate when they’re on holiday?
I constantly see status on sm from parents looking forward to tye weekend or the evening so they can have a drink, but that’s ok?

Anasnake · 30/06/2018 17:40

Clueless Angry

Regressionconfession · 30/06/2018 19:37

Oh for goodness sake!!!

Onlyjoinedforthisthread · 30/06/2018 19:48

We all deserve our holidays and a bottle of wine, teachers are definitely includes. I'm self employed and on call 24/7 from March til November and don't get one day off (tourism) but I don't begrudge anyone the holidays we all deserve a day off

Moonflower12 · 30/06/2018 21:06

I teach Foundation Stage..Small classes-private school. Lovely colleagues, lovely children. I've still been up till 11.30!writing reports, planning, making costumes for the end of term play. Sorting presents for my class etc etc and dealing with 13 hot and bothered 4 year olds. I need the holidays but will be planning and getting ready for September.

Moonflower12 · 30/06/2018 21:11

I also lay awake often, worrying about 'my' children- how they're not themselves etc. Maybe I could have handled a situation better? Did I make the day exciting but educational for them?
I also get treated really nicely by some parents but not at all nicely by others. That is exhausting.

BlueLegume · 30/06/2018 22:05

OP - what is your job that sees you come home so cool calm and collected you don’t require any kind of wind down? Be it exercise, a little tipple or drugs. I can only assume that any stress in your world requires a glass of water, a fat free diet and all in bed at 9pm. An early wake up , organic breakfast with a hike in the fresh air.

FWIW I’ll read the full thread -when I’ve broken up

echt · 30/06/2018 22:41

Fully expect the OP to turn up on all the threads in August about parents being glad the long holidays are over, to tell them they should cherish their children. :o

Zfactorstar · 01/07/2018 01:58

No kidding echt, got to love the people who's whole identity is wrapped up in their children that they can't understand that not everyone is fawning over them and loving spending every minute with them. I taught for 2 years. Left and never looked back. Got a job that requires no university but I don't take it home with me and actually pays better. Don't miss it at all and people like the OP help that feeling.

clairedelalune · 01/07/2018 06:23

Yes shackup I too spend a lot of time worrying about results and know that whatever they are there will be a bollocking in September as even if every child miraculously achieved their insanely high and unobtainable target and progress 8 score or alps are fine (highly unlikely) there wilk be some new ridiculous unforeseen measure introduced that means actually they were rubbish after all. I know already that I will have to explain the results of two kids who cba to turn up to their final exam (25%); somehow that will be my depts fault, not the child's.

Tunnocks34 · 01/07/2018 06:46

I can’t wait til the holidays. I have a count down.

It’s not because of the kids, although teaching 160 teenagers nearly every day is hard work, especially when it’s a regular occurrence being called a bitch, threatened, having chairs thrown across rooms at me and having to attempt to split up 15 year old boys twice my size in fights.

However, I like all the kids I teach, even the ones who threw chairs, swear etc because I know where that anger really comes from.

What exhausts me, and what I am giddy with excitement at the thought of 6 weeks off from, is marking, planning. I currently have 450 end of year assessments to mark, and then input the Grades into an online system. This has to be done by next Friday, which means for the next two weeks I won’t get to do much with my own kids other than have tea and kiss them good night. I can’t wait to spend the holidays with them.

So yes, on the 20th July, I’ll have my glass of wine and declare, I have early this holiday 🤷🏻‍♀️ Because I absolutely have.

LadyPenelope68 · 01/07/2018 06:50

I’ve earned my holiday and deserve 🍸🍸🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷

PerfectlySymmetricalButtocks · 01/07/2018 11:27

I love the 6.5 hours a day that I don't have my DC. They're fine individually, but not together.

Even DS2 says it's much calmer when it's just him and me, eg, when he's ill.

crumpet · 01/07/2018 11:30

My standard end of term present to teachers is wine -generally celebratory fizz - on the basis that in their shoes I would definitely need it! (And if it’s not to their taste then at least they can gift it on)

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