To ask what social class you would say I am?

[flowersandcake]

Hello!

So my friends and I were discussing class issues and one friend told me that I would have 'no idea about anything as I'm upper class' and another strangly interupted and mentioned that I'm working not upper class? I personally thought I was middle?

My situation is:
5 bed house worth 900K, no mortgage
2 Teenagers
Lucky enough to pay for their uni fees and sixth form fees, both at private sixth form, one went to a grammar and the other a state secondary school
DD owns a pony and DS used to
DD plays the violin and DS the drums
2 holidays a year (one longer one and either a week in cornwall/scotland or a couple of weekend city breaks)
Household income of 110-140K depending on the year as DH is self employed and can earn up to 90K.

I promise I'm not boasting or anything, we give 10K a year to charity and DS is in the process of persuading his dad to give his uni fees to a charity.

So what class would I be in your opinion?

As a PP said, IMO, I'd say you were "showing off" class or to use another phrase "nouveau".

I'm not sure I understand rhe point, definitely not upper class as that's more aristocracy, but you haven't said what you do for a living?

From your lifestyle it's typically middle class, but again your own career needs to be taken into account.

lucky Do you consider multi millionaire bussiness men/women working class? Quite a few people do and it's really interesting to hear different interpretations.

This is the most cringeworthy thread I've read in a long time.

Common. Coz you're asking.

once I honestly think he resents the fact that whilst we are essentially giving him the money, it was his grandparents who put aside the money into trust when he was born and he doesn't feel like he earnt it. Which he didn't of course.

Maybe you're Class-less

Feel free to leave ella

So you post on here about class.

Your friend posted similar on netmums.

And you and your friends chat about it when you are together.

Yawn. There are people in awful situations and you put so much emphasis on shit like this. Whatever 'class' you are, I think you should rethink your outlook on what's important.

Well I'd be happy to lighten his burden 😉

This British class thing has always puzzled me.
Why does it matter what instrument your children play or pets they own? Neither violin classes or a pony is outside an average British family budget, I'd guess.

I think you are in the 'I want to be a millionaire' class.

Oh, thank you! That's really helpful.

Yes I do consider them to be working class. They may not need to work anymore but they have had to at some point.

And I can’t ever understand why you would want to be anything else

I love how we feel that some people are somehow more inherently 'valuable' than others or deserve more respect because of money/words/habits/accents whatever. Its taken me five years outside of the UK to realise what an awful system it is. Personally I am from a very UMC background but I appear and sound more WC. I can fit in anywhere. Sometimes I find myself 'poshing up' to be respected and this is disgusting. The bias we have against WC people is disgusting and wrong and I for one won't join the game of believing a so-called higher class is better.

I think you're trying a bit too hard, OP. If you really had class, you wouldn't care, you'd just know. Nouveau.

Working class.
Utterly.
Simply because nobody who was really upper or middle class would a)write about their financial situation like that or
b) have to ask which class they were in as they know.

If you think class is down to money and how much of it you have then you have a long way to go before you are middle class too!

craxmum Well livery is around 1K a month as well as all the extras so the pony costs around 14K a year, on average and when DS had one too that would have been 28K a year. I would say that's out of budget for a lot of families?

Oh come on, discussions about the class structure are fascinating if you like social science subjects.
Just reading through this entire thread will be good reading tomorrow.

yorkshire If you say so
My background is UMC and I think my life is similar to how my parents were :)

not ton enough to resist a stealth boast
so, new money, thrusting social climber, not quite le beau monde
would never get a voucher for Almacks

I once heard that asking about class is in itself a trait of the working class with ideas of grandeur.

Notwithstanding that, there isn’t really a lot to go on from your posts- it is all about possessions - that is not really how classs is defined in the traditional sense.

House prices, incomes, debts and ownership is dependant on your area. A joint income of +£100k may be something to brag about in many areas of UK, but would see you struggle in others.

Upper class can be ruled out for you unless you are aristocracy or have an inheritant title.
For middle class - are you able to countersign legal documents like passports?

From what I’ve read I would guess you are lower-middle or upper-working class. But that is based on a very archaic system which (IMO).has no place in today’s society.

Well I live in a council flat with a disabled husband and we live off benefits. All this "class" stuff drives me mad.

Middle class