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To ask what social class you would say I am?

594 replies

flowersandcake · 27/06/2018 18:32

Hello!

So my friends and I were discussing class issues and one friend told me that I would have 'no idea about anything as I'm upper class' and another strangly interupted and mentioned that I'm working not upper class? I personally thought I was middle?

My situation is:
5 bed house worth 900K, no mortgage
2 Teenagers
Lucky enough to pay for their uni fees and sixth form fees, both at private sixth form, one went to a grammar and the other a state secondary school
DD owns a pony and DS used to
DD plays the violin and DS the drums
2 holidays a year (one longer one and either a week in cornwall/scotland or a couple of weekend city breaks)
Household income of 110-140K depending on the year as DH is self employed and can earn up to 90K.

I promise I'm not boasting or anything, we give 10K a year to charity and DS is in the process of persuading his dad to give his uni fees to a charity.

So what class would I be in your opinion?

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Verbena87 · 27/06/2018 19:05

Atalune that’s interesting. My folks’ marriage sounds like yours but the other way round: dad’s family definitely working class and mum’s middle. My husband’s from a working class family too. I’m never sure where I fit (when I was teaching in Manchester got asked “miss, are you...posh?”, when I’m at parties with maternal side older generation I feel very much out of my element!)

Redshoesx · 27/06/2018 19:05

No one gives a fuck

Theycouldhavechoseneve · 27/06/2018 19:06

In terms of accepted definitions -middle. Upper is Carole and Mike Middleton since the marriage of their eldest daughter, they were middle before. Middle is a very broad band. But true class is nothing to do with definitions, it’s how you behave and you either have it or you don’t. You don’t. Neither do I for making that comment.

Birdsgottafly · 27/06/2018 19:06

QueenoftheSilverDollar12 there are some very bad private schools.

I watched Big Brother with Alicia Douvall, who was privately educated, although she would have been better educated if she had been raised by cats.

I've known a few people who you wouldn't believe went to school, who were also privately educated.

BitchQueen90 · 27/06/2018 19:06

I'm from a proper working class family - grew up in terraced houses with Ikea furniture and floors clean enough to eat your dinner off, all state educated and none of us went to university, we all work in jobs like nursery nursing/factories. For me class is to do with your upbringing and education, not how much money you have. So it depends on what your background is like.

ScribblyGum · 27/06/2018 19:06

You called it a living room. You’re lower middle.

flowersandcake · 27/06/2018 19:06

Oh did I? Awfully sorry, my computer is being a pain and freezing, it's rather old! I don't work although I have a history degree and DH is a banker.

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Fontofnoknowledge · 27/06/2018 19:06

It has much more to do with how you live than money. I have always thought that class was related to values rather than material possessions .

My godmother is completely skint and house furnished with old tatty furniture but those tatty bits were bought 80 yrs ago and still going strong. She has not two beans to rub together but would never for example for go

entering her price roses in the village flower show.
Coffee at 11am with a friend (at each other's house)
Having a gardener and cleaner once a week
Buying one good outfit for the winter/summer to be worn for 'occasions'
Going to church on Sunday (8am communion not all comers family service at 11. )
A house full of classic literature.
Reading the Telegraph everyday.
Being a member of a village society or club.
Being well educated and informed especially on matters of politics.
Just 'knowing' manners. That doesn't just mean knowing not to put her elbows on the table but also knowing WHEN putting your elbows on the table is entirely acceptable.

Above all, unshakable confidence in herself and her values.
Class is a state of mind.

Firmly upper middle class on a church mouse income. Think Miss Marple . Can talk to a Prince or a pauper with the same degree of engagement and interest.

ScrubTheDecks · 27/06/2018 19:07

Middle.

Unless you are working class made good (e.g your DH works for Pimlico Plumbers, neither of you want to Uni and you wear acrylic nails).

Upper is minor aristocracy, huge inheritance, public school (school fees paid by the family Trust, or grandparents from a fund they saved since you were small), polo ponies.

Middle covers everyone from impoverished but educated boho hippies to multi millionaire bankers. Professions, managerial, educated, commerce (including shop and property owners).

mrd · 27/06/2018 19:07

Half way between 4th and 5th

dudsville · 27/06/2018 19:07

I'm just going to say " English" for your class. The English are the most concerned about this.

KlutzyDraconequus · 27/06/2018 19:07

The upper class don't think about their class, they are born to it and have it for life.
The working classes couldn't give a fuck what class they are, they're too busy keeping kids fed and heads dry.
The Middle or the 'HFUOA' class have none but worry most.

Birdsgottafly · 27/06/2018 19:08

"No one gives a fuck"

Oh yes they do. I've seen examples of that when young people apply for jobs. Their postcodes are noted before anything else.

flowersandcake · 27/06/2018 19:08

I don't think one word defines everything? Anyway, I suppose you have a point as DH calls it the sitting room, if that counts for anything Grin and so do I from time to time.

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littlemissdynamite · 27/06/2018 19:09

What are you trying to prove?

Why do you assume anyone gives a fuck?

if you KNOW you are 'middle class' (and you don't sound it!) why do you need validation.

So weird LOL

Gottagetmoving · 27/06/2018 19:09

DH grew up very upper class, learnt to fence etc

My grandson is learning to fence and we are common as muck!Grin
Unless you mean he does fencing....in which case, my brother in law does that as his day job Smile

ScribblyGum · 27/06/2018 19:09

It’s the little things OP Wink

littlemissdynamite · 27/06/2018 19:09

Why the need to brag about your 'wealth?'

Luckymummy22 · 27/06/2018 19:10

You are working class.

If you need to work to pay your bills then you are working class.

Can’t be bothered with all this class rubbish.

And if you live off your parents money - then I don’t have any respect for you anyway no matter what class you are considered to be

flowersandcake · 27/06/2018 19:10

Each to their own! If he's passionate about fencing, that's utterly wonderful.

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Whatthefoxgoingon · 27/06/2018 19:10

Upper is minor aristocracy, huge inheritance, public school (school fees paid by the family Trust, or grandparents from a fund they saved since you were small), polo ponies.

Lol do you know my husband as that is exactly his story Grin I am firmly middle class stock.

silverpenguin · 27/06/2018 19:11

Upper middle

Luckymummy22 · 27/06/2018 19:11

And oP I don’t mean you. I just mean ‘Upper’ class

happypoobum · 27/06/2018 19:11

From your spelling and grammar, choice of vocabulary, I would put you at lower middle or working class.

onceisawabee · 27/06/2018 19:11

Your DS can donate his student fees to me 😁