To ask what social class you would say I am?

[flowersandcake]

Hello!

So my friends and I were discussing class issues and one friend told me that I would have 'no idea about anything as I'm upper class' and another strangly interupted and mentioned that I'm working not upper class? I personally thought I was middle?

My situation is:
5 bed house worth 900K, no mortgage
2 Teenagers
Lucky enough to pay for their uni fees and sixth form fees, both at private sixth form, one went to a grammar and the other a state secondary school
DD owns a pony and DS used to
DD plays the violin and DS the drums
2 holidays a year (one longer one and either a week in cornwall/scotland or a couple of weekend city breaks)
Household income of 110-140K depending on the year as DH is self employed and can earn up to 90K.

I promise I'm not boasting or anything, we give 10K a year to charity and DS is in the process of persuading his dad to give his uni fees to a charity.

So what class would I be in your opinion?

Social class in this country has nothing to do with material assets (that's very American IMHO) and everything to do with your background.

You are mortgage free - lucky you!!!

But your earnings are reasonably high - but not super high.

I would suspect a lot on here have a considerably higher income although haven't lucked out with no mortgage.

flowersandcake

craxmum Well livery is around 1K a month as well as all the extras so the pony costs around 14K a year, on average and when DS had one too that would have been 28K a year. I would say that's out of budget for a lot of families?

Well you obviously don't like some of the answers you are getting.

Probably the same class as Hyacinth Bouquet.

Good for you OP.

And if you're bragging about your wealth then clearly you're 'nouveau' darling

You're getting money and class mixed up. Which makes you working class. And vulgar.

flowers so why are you asking then if you already know the answer?! You sound insecure iin yourself to come here and boast about all of this, and then your responses make you look worse. Seriously think of more meaningful ways to measure and define yourself. This is all so small and frankly pathetic. A grown woman spending hours on a forum discussing whether what they call the living room makes them in a particular arbitrary social category so they can feel proud of themselves for being UMC? Wrong on so many levels.

Class is about culture rather than money. If you are middle class or upwards you would be aware of that and you would not talk about how much money you have.
My working class parents made lots of money when I was growing up and they had a similar attitude to you. We had the ponies and the violin (MC markers), but they still thought about money above all and there were no books in the house.

leggy I've heard the same and to be fair, I don't think I've ever heard the word 'class' used in this sense come out of anyone's mouth in my family! I suppose I've always been the odd one out :D

@flowersandcake

My good friend's daughter has a pony, I think she pays around £80 - £90 pw for a full service livery in Kent. She's a single mother, a registrar in the local hospital, definitely not rolling in money. Comparable to the price of cigarettes for a heavy smoker parent.

Do the test www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6099423/how-posh-you-vocabulary-quiz-social-class/

;-)

Personally I am from a very UMC background but I appear and sound more WC

Interesting. I'm from a mc background...private school, university, nice house, music lessons etc. I definitely come across more wc though...I'm a bit fat, wear too much make up and have been known to wear a hoop earring . I also have a London accent. I remember a girl at uni asking what school I'd been to? She genuinely couldn't hide her surprise that I was privately educated!

Loving your username NewModelArmy

Do you have a hot tub OP?

Dh is rich, and you could be a total gold dogging ex scrubber

Hmmm. Classless I would say.

I also don't believe you say 'awfully sorry' that was the point I began to think this may not be true as far too cliched

formerbabe you sound like me

Middle class. Upper middle is bullshit. Upper class means youve got some uk heritage as in you come from aristocratic background.

Money doesnt denote class but splashing lots of cash can mark you out as not being proper upper class.

Um we have 6 bookshelves excuding the ones in the study! I actually was curious and the fact that you've called me vulgar is rather nasty. You asked me what my life is like outside of money and if reading the guardian, listening to radio 4, reading books more than watching the televison, reading studies, etc is working class then I suppose I am? Don't see why that is bad though :)

You're coming across as very twatty I'm afraid, dear.

For reference, there is an ex-traveller family near us that has a bigger house, more money and way more horses than you do. Their 5 children have all gone to the local fee paying school, two so far onto university, one of them Cambridge with another looking like he'll make Oxford. Looking at what they have on the face of it - several brand new luxury cars, loads of holidays and ultra expensive accessories - you'd think they were terribly upper class, but they can't be, can they?

I don't care either way how they earned their money or how they spend it, they are the loveliest people who do a hell of a lot for our community and local charities. They are liked and respected round here universally. That is worth much more than a bank balance.

If you fancy giving the 10k elsewhere instead of charity let me know

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Good to hear I'm not the only one!

I got UMC Cyclingpast. Would agree, based on background, but not on money in the bank!

Class is so much not about income, jobs, house or what car you drive. Class is about how you think about yourself, not what other people think about you. DH and I are much more tolerant to some people we know who think they are Upper Middle, but are actually the same as us, we are certainly Working, because, we do actually work. Even though we both work and pay all our bills, they are convinced they have moved up as they have a car and a horse.

I'm, OK you have a car, as do I, I don't have a horse but I have a field, does that count?