Aibu to think “loola” and “noony” aren’t words interchangeable with genitals?!

[Mightymelon]

And that cutesy words for your genitals help NOBODY AT ALL?

To cut a long story short - I’m friends with a girl, who has seen one of those posts on Facebook, about correctly naming genitals to avoid confusion when kids have uti’s or worse, have been abused.
DF mentioned that in this thread as well as the willy/mini/front bottom names loola and noony being used by children instead of vagina/ vulva and penis, and said she’d never heard of it before. Nor have I?

Firstly I would like to know if IABU to have never heard of these words?

SECONDLY I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU WITH EVERY OUNCE OF MY BEING TO TEACH YOUR KIDS APPROPRIATE WORDS FOR THEIR GENITALS SO THAT IF ANYTHING’s WRONG THE ADULTS WHO DEAL WITH IT (TEACHERS/CHILDMINDERS/HCP’s/THE POLICE) CAN DO SO WITH AS LITTLE TRAUMA AND FUSS AS POSSIBLE!!

It’s very simple

Using the correct names for genitalia may possibly prevent child abuse and will allow a child to explain what has happened. A girl needs to know the difference between her vulva and vagina, for example.

Using pet names definitely WONT prevent child abuse and may be a problem if investigation is needed.

Why is it even a question? It’s such a simple, easy thing to change.

Just teach your children correct anatomical, adult names for their genitalia. Genitals are not toys, they don’t need toy names.

@nokidshere the example we were given for misunderstood disclosures was a child chatting to their TA saying something which seemed innocent so TA laughs it off as a silly story. Not every disclosure is from a child who knows something is wrong and is scared to tell.

I have never heard anyone use the words loola or noony.

Agree with getting children to use the correct words.

Mighty
Harrowing isn’t it.

But so important

It just annoys me so much when people refuse to accept it as being necessary.

It’s such a simple, necessary change.

@nokids I think that the statement about not doing jobs properly is a bit unfair - that person probably had a lot of CYP to look after and because a child used a word for their genitals that has an association with a children’s toy an incorrect assumption was made.

1. Not everyone knows those words, why would it be unreasonable?

2. I don’t necessarily disagree but stop shouting at us, it’s very aggressive.

If these stupid twee names are automatically, at some stage, replaced by full knowledge of the correct names, then how come adult women are woefully ignorant of their own anatomy?

www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdmyjn/almost-half-of-british-women-cant-correctly-locate-the-vagina-or-cervix

surely dicks and cocks are adult penises?? I have heard winky and peepee for boys but I still think there are more girl genital euphemisms

loola and noony?! What’s wrong with willy and fanny?

testing
Stats show that child abusers are far less likely to abuse children who speak freely and properly about their bodies

In an investigation the manner of abuse must be established, whether the vagina was penetrated for example, without the words, this is not easy to prove beyond reasonable doubt.

The only words that are completely non-ambiguous are the correct anatomical terms

Also childish names for genitals suggest an air of silly, ‘naughty’, ‘don’t mention it’ culture

We need to move away from that culture, women and girls need to be free to speak frankly about their bodies in cases of abuse, injury or disease

coco

It’s important that girls know the difference between their vulva and vagina.

For the above reason. ‘Fanny’ as a blanket term is not such an issue in my eyes but the correct names for the different aspects of the genitals is more important

We’ve all got them. and they are normal be they male or female.

A social worker who doesn’t probe more when a child announces something like ”daddy touched my Minnie last night” is a social worker who’s abilities leave much to be desired. That’s just poor practice.

^^whose not who’s

Sunny

Where has this mythical social worker come from?

“One of the first case studies we discussed as SW was a case in which a young girl explained her step father had abused her but used childish language ‘minnie’ I think.”

Did you mean you were a social worker or the individual was a social worker?

I completely agree that correct names should be used. They're just body parts like any other and they don't need stupid cutesy names as if they are something that shouldn't be talked about. It's a vagina not Voldemort.

The case involved a childcare professional, in a nursery setting. Probably very young.

There was probably a Minnie Mouse doll in the same room.

When you train as a social worker, this is one of the first case studies you research because it makes it very clear how important correct anatomical language is with regards to genitals from a young age

Totally agree OP
Those saying a social worker wouldn't be doing their job properly are just being contrary
On a safeguarding course I was on some of the names for a vagina were things like 'moneybox' really obscure where there could definitely be a misunderstanding
I have to say though before I did the course I found it weird hearing kids use the proper words but now totally understand how important it is and make sure my kids know and use them

Are you a social worker? By the way, despite me thinking we should teach children the correct names, anyone who works with children or vulnerable adults should understand that many children do not know. The age of the childcare worker is not an excuse. The nursery had a duty to the child.

You can call me contrary but I am an experienced social worker and I know many people will still call their children’s gentials various nicknames. They’re unlikely to be reading here either.

RE that case study - we were told it was a 16 year old girl who was the adult and they’d been looking at Minnie and mickey in nursery

At my kids nursery they called it a tilly

Totally killed the name when I had a girl 😂

Sunny
No I’m not, I only did the first two terms.

Blame is irrelevant here, the only thing you can change in the world is your own behaviour and if teaching your kids the right names for body parts protect them, then do it.

Young children don’t just come out with ‘I’m being abused’ they bring it up in play, they allude to it.

If they use the correct terms, those hints are pretty clear. If they’re ‘childish’ names that could be anything else, they’re not so clear.