Aibu to think “loola” and “noony” aren’t words interchangeable with genitals?!

[Mightymelon]

And that cutesy words for your genitals help NOBODY AT ALL?

To cut a long story short - I’m friends with a girl, who has seen one of those posts on Facebook, about correctly naming genitals to avoid confusion when kids have uti’s or worse, have been abused.
DF mentioned that in this thread as well as the willy/mini/front bottom names loola and noony being used by children instead of vagina/ vulva and penis, and said she’d never heard of it before. Nor have I?

Firstly I would like to know if IABU to have never heard of these words?

SECONDLY I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU WITH EVERY OUNCE OF MY BEING TO TEACH YOUR KIDS APPROPRIATE WORDS FOR THEIR GENITALS SO THAT IF ANYTHING’s WRONG THE ADULTS WHO DEAL WITH IT (TEACHERS/CHILDMINDERS/HCP’s/THE POLICE) CAN DO SO WITH AS LITTLE TRAUMA AND FUSS AS POSSIBLE!!

Say it loud
I've got a fanny and I'm proud
I'm not gonna call it a pudenda
I'd like you to be a comprehender
I'm a big fan of my fanny
It is great and it is canny
I'm not gonna be euphemistic
'Cos my fanny is fantastic

Nimbly nonk Ha!

My 8 yr old daughter calls her vulva - 'vulva' and has done since she was about 4, and my five year old son calls his penis a 'willy'. I think this terminology is fine. My 8 year old also knows how babies are made, and my boy knows she has a hole called a vagina. They both call their bottoms, bums and bumholes although my daughter knows it is called an anus.

I would have no idea what a 'loola' was I'm afraid.

Interesting. I was brought up to think pee was polite and wee was rude!

Surely one neither wees nor pees, but micturates.

@seryph
"As someone who studied linguistics extensively, you know that they are just words, with no connotations beyond what people ascribe to them."

Erm, yes, absolutely. All words are a mere sequence of sounds, which are attributed meaning and connotation arbitrarily via the usage of a speech community.

And that speech community will determine that some of them are rude and some of them are not.

BUT - where something or other is deemed by a community to be disgraceful or taboo, then every single word that's used to refer to it will successively be considered to be disgraceful and taboo.

So before women can find an appropriate word to use for a little girl's genitals, we need to stop feeling ashamed of our own. (See above.)

That is exactly what I meant. The word, as in the collection of phonemes/graphemes, inherently is neither 'good' or 'bad'. It is only our current culture/environment that decides these words are.

Cunt is a really typical example. For many English speaking people it is considered the most taboo word, even though for centuries it was just the colloquial word for vagina. And indeed, here in Glasgow, cunt still doesn't have the extreme taboo nature it does in say London, 'You fucking cunt' can even be a term of endearment.

I still don't understand why the anatomical term vagina is offensive to anyone though.

Sorry @Seryph - we're on the same page then :)

Going off the subject slightly (and I ought to be doing something completely different) by the same token, if someone who doesn't normally swear does so, it's EVEN RUDER. It was very funny the other year when we got lost on holiday and walked up the wrong hill. My mum, who learnt how to talk in company at Monmouth School for Girls in the 1950s, said "Bugger and bugger!" and, after some reflection, "And shit." :D :D :D

Nimbly nonk sounds too night garden for me

YANBU because I have NO idea what loola and noony mean, but I do think using cutesy terminology for genitals teaches a child to be ashamed of their body and all its parts.

@Ohmydayslove - could be the thread about people having sex in the hedge!

Dear God 😵

Which goes back to what someone was saying upthread about how a sex abuse case could be thrown out of a jury though that 'noonie' meant buttocks (unlikely anyway) but you would just get the child to point to where they mean.

That's what I thought too.

Worse, those people who use the incorrect terminology for their anatomy? Why? Even blokes would not call their penises their vas deferens, why do females think its perfectly OK to do this?

Honestly I grew up thinking the whole thing was a vagina and that was that I never heard any girl call it a vulva.

Delphinae

Same!

I also had never heard of a "noony", I thought minnie, was just a shortening of minge.

When I'm talking to friends and partner it's called a "pussy" or a "pum" (not like pun, more like room but with a shorter oo)

My daughters 8, and her class have been learning about 'the proper names for private body parts'
We've always used front bottom, wasn't quite ready for her to proclaim it was actually a vagina.

I've heard it being called a noony before too.

When I'm talking to friends and partner it's called a "pussy" or a "pum" (not like pun, more like room but with a shorter oo)

That's what the oo sound in 'noonie' or 'noon' is as well, like as in 'book'. Just for clarity, like!

I just had to Google what a 'vas deferens' was, sorry!

I also learnt from a recent thread as well that women have something called a 'Pouch of Douglas' as well!

I think it's stupid and confusing for children using these other names, just call it what it is for goodness sake.

I have never heard of "loola" or "noony" either nor have my friends. I think they may have been used in the article as a example of ridiculous and unknown words for genitalia.

They don’t just have to ‘point to where they mean’

They have to draw diagrams and explain what part of him went into which part of her

Was it in the lips, was it inside the vagina? How far, did it hurt? What was it? How do you know? Which part of him? How do you know?

If our young know words like, for example, foreskin, they can explain what happened how it happened and sirh what.

I’m trying to no go into too much detail here because it’s a fuckinf horrible subject but actually If we just teach our kids the right names we don’t need to know.

Trust me, it’s FAR LESS traumatic for the victim and FAR HARDER for the defence when the right words are used

Not U.

I was abused for years by a family friend. I can't imagine me calling my genitals my "moneybox" (thanks mum) helped.

"He gave me it to put it my money box" only became "he hurt my front bum" when I attended school and had friends who taught me different words.

Calling it the right name may have prevented the abuse from lasting long enough to ensure I'll forever be in therapy.

I call it a vagina, I still don't know the correct terminology because I have many issues relating to that area. 32 years old and I couldn't tell you what my vulva is. Sad really.

There was a case local to me where a girls uncle used to stroke her bunny. Her teacher thought it was as innocent as it sounds but it transpired later on that bunny was the girl's word for her genitals.
I work in a school and we teach children the correct terms from Nursery.

@anditgoes

I’m so sorry you went through that

andit hugs

It must be fucking awful for you to have to see people defending the use of such words :(