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Aibu to think “loola” and “noony” aren’t words interchangeable with genitals?!

421 replies

Mightymelon · 22/06/2018 21:56

And that cutesy words for your genitals help NOBODY AT ALL?

To cut a long story short - I’m friends with a girl, who has seen one of those posts on Facebook, about correctly naming genitals to avoid confusion when kids have uti’s or worse, have been abused.
DF mentioned that in this thread as well as the willy/mini/front bottom names loola and noony being used by children instead of vagina/ vulva and penis, and said she’d never heard of it before. Nor have I?

Firstly I would like to know if IABU to have never heard of these words?

SECONDLY I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU WITH EVERY OUNCE OF MY BEING TO TEACH YOUR KIDS APPROPRIATE WORDS FOR THEIR GENITALS SO THAT IF ANYTHING’s WRONG THE ADULTS WHO DEAL WITH IT (TEACHERS/CHILDMINDERS/HCP’s/THE POLICE) CAN DO SO WITH AS LITTLE TRAUMA AND FUSS AS POSSIBLE!!

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nolongersurprised · 26/06/2018 10:24

sugarplum

So you’re unsure of your own anatomy, can’t bring yourself to talk about sex with your husband and believe it’s “inappropriate in common parlance to use certain words..”?

With respect, because I’m assuming you must be of a different generation, this is not something either I or my daughters would want to aspire to.

Lethaldrizzle · 26/06/2018 10:27

So my the 5 year old dd on a fairground ride once said 'makes my vagina feel funny' - perhaps I should have interrogated her further- are you sure? Or was it your vulva or perhaps your clitoris- all words they know - but no, we use vagina for the whole caboose in our house.

sugarPlumFairly · 26/06/2018 10:30

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JacquesHammer · 26/06/2018 10:31

See, maybe it's just me but if a Reception age child came up to me and said 'my labia minora hurts' that would ring alarm bells for me. It would conjure up an image of a child spending a long time with an adult looking at their genitals, which is just a bit weird at that age isn't it?!

It is weird to have an understanding of your own body?

You would have to spend quite a long time with a 4 year old looking at their own genitals for them to accurately be able to locate and label their own labia majora/minora, vagina, clitoris and mons pubis. Its not really necessary is it?

In no way at all. My DD had a fabulous book, aimed at children which explained everything. Quick squat over a mirror and there you go.

I'm depressed by the notion of allowing children full body autonomy and educating them therein is "not really necessary".

JacquesHammer · 26/06/2018 10:32

I find it genuinely baffling and worrying that you think being able to label various bits of a vagina and understanding anatomy are the same thing

You said you weren't 100% sure on your vulva and vagina. How can you possibly understand your own anatomy if you don't know that Hmm Imagine if you could quickly Google and find out.

CantankerousCamel · 26/06/2018 10:33

The point is that if your kid goes into a court room and says ‘my minnie/noonie was touched by this man’ the defence can easily state they’re discussing a different part of their anatomy, like the bottom perhaps. A serious sexual assault becomes a pat on the bottom. All it takes is reasonable doubt.

seventhgonickname · 26/06/2018 10:33

I'd be looking at you funny if I heard your child say that.My friends husband on honey moon had some serious injuries during a romantic interlude on the sandunes when she got sand up her vagina.

CantankerousCamel · 26/06/2018 10:34

I agre we need a ‘catch all’ name for female anatomy

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NataliaOsipova · 26/06/2018 10:40

I'd be looking at you funny if I heard your child say that.My friends husband on honey moon had some serious injuries during a romantic interlude on the sandunes when she got sand up her vagina.

The mind boggles.....! Your poor friend. Thankfully, my six year old was sorted out with a baby wipe. I just don't understand all the need for euphemism, or why it's so shocking to refer to a part of the body by its name.

nolongersurprised · 26/06/2018 10:41

sugarplum do you not think it’s strange that, as an adult woman, you don’t know your own anatomy? How can you articulate as a adult to your doctor what is awry?

You were the one who brought up your sex life, the one where who don’t talk about it with your husband and enjoy it sometimes.

Essentially, your squeamishness about using correct names seems to come from prudishness.

You can swear and insult me all you like as it’s fairly amusing but why don’t you just get a mirror and have a good look? You won’t find your foofoo or noony though

MrsPreston11 · 26/06/2018 10:52

NataliaOsipova

It wasn't in her vagina though, was it?

It was in her vulva.

Sand in the vagina wouldn't be helped with a baby wipe.

So I understand a weird look.

Seryph · 26/06/2018 10:52

Sugarplum calm down, it's alright. It's fine.
Well, actually it's not. Actually it's awful that you grew up in a world that thinks some parts of your body are so shameful that they can't have names and you want nothing to do with them.
I know, I grew up in that world too. But as a childcare professional, I teach kids the proper names for their body parts. I can talk to my DP about my vulva, my anus, my elbow, and all his body parts too.
As someone who studied linguistics extensively, you know that they are just words, with no connotations beyond what people ascribe to them. So, let's banish any bad feeling about normal (Latin, I'll grant you) words.

MrsPreston11 · 26/06/2018 10:54

Pre-children looking in a mirror was fine, and I think a very helpful thing to do during your teens.

Post - I've only done it once and never ever want to see it again!! Poor vagina, RIP her old good looks.

geekone · 26/06/2018 10:57

I know all the bits of my own bits thank you. But get this I even say boobs 😱 how dare I maybe I should be more specific and say aerial, nipple or Mammory gland Confused. Who cares....
I don’t plan at any time soon to teach my DS the difference between vulva and vagina.

geekone · 26/06/2018 10:58

Damn rant fail

areola not aerial

Wellthisunexpected · 26/06/2018 11:00

There's significant evidence that children who use biologically correct words for genitals are less at risk of abuse. It signifies to the (potential) abuser that the family is more open to discussing such things, making the child more of a risk. There are other things that can reduce your child's risk of being a victim, but that's the biggest you can arm them with.

seventhgonickname · 26/06/2018 11:00

Natalia,it wasnt his mind that was boggling!Mmy friend was fine,vaginas are fairly tough,the sand came out as the vagina is self cleaning and for a few weeks sex was out of the question anyway.Wet wipes wouldnt have helped here!😇

NataliaOsipova · 26/06/2018 11:01

MrsPreston No - it was in her vagina. She'd had a bit of an itch around, I think, and some had gone up there. Some was in her vulva as well, though, I grant you that!

JacquesHammer · 26/06/2018 11:07

Those talking about shaming little girls and bodily autonomy have the feminist bit between their teeth but aren't bothering to read the thread

I've read the entire thread. Are you one of these tiresome folk who can't handle people disagreeing with you and therefore suggest they're not reading?

Just FYI as you're apparently scared to Google (have you read the thread about learned helplessness?)

Mons Pubis. Noun. "the rounded mass of fatty tissue lying over the joint of the pubic bones, in women typically more prominent and also called the mons Veneris".

I've even given you the dictionary definition so not to upset your delicate sensibilities further.

JacquesHammer · 26/06/2018 11:09

But get this I even say boobs 😱 how dare I maybe I should be more specific and say aerial, nipple or Mammory gland confused

Boob is a widely acknowledged term (and in fact used for both male/female).

The issue is the plethora of terms used for female genitalia aren't widely know and that's where the issue lies.

You say "he touched my boob" - easy and immediately decipherable.
You say "he touched my moneybox" - not immediately obvious.

Chocolatelavender · 26/06/2018 11:09

Vagina is technically incorrect in reference to the vulva. That is very true. However, using the word vagina to refer to the vulva has been in common usage for a long time. If it's common usage across english speaking countries to refer both to the vulva and the vagina as 'vagina' then most people would understand what you're talking about. I think sometimes I think of my vulva and vagina as a whole rather than the separate parts. Perhaps we should differentiate and refer to each part by their correct names. But when something is in common usage it makes sense to use the common usage rather then the technically correct for ease of communication. Most of these nicknames I've read on this thread including the op, apart from a few, are completely foreign to me and unless explained to me I would have no clue what they were referring to.

JacquesHammer · 26/06/2018 11:12

It has just come to me where I've heard the word "Loola" before.

We had a pram called a Loola.

How lovely that she came out of my "loola" and was transported in one on a day to day basis Grin

sleepingdragons · 26/06/2018 11:14

If we're really all too precious to use the correct terms we need to do as Sweden did and create a term.

Yes! That was my point! :)

SandyFagina · 26/06/2018 11:22

I vote for meat purse.