Aibu to think “loola” and “noony” aren’t words interchangeable with genitals?!

[Mightymelon]

And that cutesy words for your genitals help NOBODY AT ALL?

To cut a long story short - I’m friends with a girl, who has seen one of those posts on Facebook, about correctly naming genitals to avoid confusion when kids have uti’s or worse, have been abused.
DF mentioned that in this thread as well as the willy/mini/front bottom names loola and noony being used by children instead of vagina/ vulva and penis, and said she’d never heard of it before. Nor have I?

Firstly I would like to know if IABU to have never heard of these words?

SECONDLY I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU WITH EVERY OUNCE OF MY BEING TO TEACH YOUR KIDS APPROPRIATE WORDS FOR THEIR GENITALS SO THAT IF ANYTHING’s WRONG THE ADULTS WHO DEAL WITH IT (TEACHERS/CHILDMINDERS/HCP’s/THE POLICE) CAN DO SO WITH AS LITTLE TRAUMA AND FUSS AS POSSIBLE!!

There are loads of little boy words for penis and little girl words for vagina. Those are really difficult words to say when you are 2 hooha (I love that one) and winky are much better. My DS 8 says penis and vagina now as soon as he learned them (up to him though). But he also says nuts an awful lot and not just him I have tried to get him to use testicles but he isn’t interested nuts is quicker.
YABU it’s none of your business what other people’s children call their foof vagina

I always think vulva sounds quite cutesy...

Oh dear. When I was a kid my nickname was noony

If it must be an alternative to the correct words then it has to be a universally understandable term.

Willy/bottom or the old fashioned private parts.

In a similar subject area, I, personally, very much dislike children being taught to say 'pee' as it was never considered as polite as 'wee' when I was a child. I always think it sounds like a bloke in a pub word. You would not teach a child to say 'I need a crap', I just feel it sounds that bad.

So you don't put tampons in your vagina? And your child hasn't ever asked you what a tampon is?

My point is using the word vagina for the entire female genitalia is wrong. A vagina (very very hopefully) isn't something that needs to "exist" until puberty. And it drives me mad people saying their 4 year old uses the "correct" word for her anatomy if she's talking about her vagina.

Vulva, fine, but even that's not really correct.

I'm not going to sit and go through the labia minora, labia majora, vulva, clitoris list.

When "noony" does a fine job when all I need it for is to say "wash your noony" or for them to tell me when their noonys hurt.

YABU it’s none of your business what other people’s children call their foof vagina

I think you meant vulva? Excellent illustration of the issue.

In 2016, 44% of women were unable to identify the vagina on a diagram It's not just about child abuse, it's also about women dying of gynecological cancers.

eveappeal.org.uk/news-awareness/know-your-body/

I'm not going to sit and go through the labia minora, labia majora, vulva, clitoris list

I don’t get why though?

When "noony" does a fine job when all I need it for is to say "wash your noony" or for them to tell me when their noonys hurt

So they say “my noony hurts” - which bit? It’s not descriptive!

And if you’re using “noony” to encompass all female genitalia, they shouldn’t be washing inside, right - how do they know?

Just tell someone your child has died

Oh no you can’t say that Itsallgoing because we say that as well and apparently that made me one of those people

The paper I linked to accepted vagina, gina and vulva as acceptable terms. All of mine have been able to manage ‘gina before 2.

If I had to pick I’d go with cunt before a misused noun like flower or fairy or a minniemillyfoofoohoohoolulullala type word. Snippa is good!

I, personally, very much dislike children being taught to say 'pee' as it was never considered as polite as 'wee' when I was a child

Interesting. I was brought up to think pee was polite and wee was rude!

minniemillyfoofoohoohoolulullala

I think we should go for that in its entirety

Vulva, fine, but even that's not really correct

Yes it is.

"First, you will see your vulva — all the external organs you can see outside your body. The vulva includes the mons pubis (Latin for “pubic mound”), labia majora (outer lips), labia minora (inner lips), clitoris, and the external openings of the urethra and vagina."

www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/self-exam-vulva-vagina/

jacques

And no diminutives.

Oh for gods sake, if I tell my kid to 'wash your noony' she knows perfectly well what I mean.

The paper I linked to accepted vagina, gina and vulva as acceptable terms. All of mine have been able to manage ‘gina before 2.

But vagina is 'wrong' isn't it?

So they say “my noony hurts” - which bit? It’s not descriptive!

So you would expect a 4 year old to say 'my labia minora hurts'?

*So you would expect a 4 year old to say 'my labia minora hurts’?

If that’s the bit that hurts why not?

If their toes hurt I would expect them to say “my toes hurt” rather than “my walky wah wah” hurts.

But vagina is 'wrong' isn't it?

Vagina is wrong is it's used to refer to genitals on the outside of the body.

The vagina is inside.

Sure vagina’s not anatomically correct, but people will know what you mean, which has been my personal argument on this thread. We started with vagina which they abbreviated and they now know vulva as well.

I just tried out ‘noony’ with my daughters and they laughed at me.

If their toes hurt I would expect them to say “my toes hurt” rather than “my walky wah wah” hurts.

But walky wah wah isn't a common term.

There is nothing wrong with a child saying "my tummy hurts" or "my bum hurts"! Point being everyone knows what a tummy or a bum is.

*But walky wah wah isn't a common term.

There is nothing wrong with a child saying "my tummy hurts" or "my bum hurts"! Point being everyone knows what a tummy or a bum is*

Exactly - but look at the miriad of terms on this thread for female genitalia. They're all so personal to a family that how would anyone else know?

If we're really all too precious to use the correct terms we need to do as Sweden did and create a term.

*Vulva, fine, but even that's not really correct

Yes it is.

"First, you will see your vulva — all the external organs you can see outside your body. The vulva includes the mons pubis (Latin for “pubic mound”), labia majora (outer lips), labia minora (inner lips), clitoris, and the external openings of the urethra and vagina."

www.ourbodiesourselves.org/health-info/self-exam-vulva-vagina/*

Thanks - genuinely I mean that - and am somewhat embarrassed I had it wrong.

Will have a vulva conversation this evening.

I didn't think it included the mons pubis.

I'm not 100% on vagina vs vulva etc and don't feel I need to be. Both are private and if I have an issue with either then I see a Dr

I genuinely find it both baffling and worrying that adult women don't understand their own anatomy.

See, maybe it's just me but if a Reception age child came up to me and said 'my labia minora hurts' that would ring alarm bells for me. It would conjure up an image of a child spending a long time with an adult looking at their genitals, which is just a bit weird at that age isn't it?!

You would have to spend quite a long time with a 4 year old looking at their own genitals for them to accurately be able to locate and label their own labia majora/minora, vagina, clitoris and mons pubis. Its not really necessary is it?

I got a funny look from a lady in the ladies the other day when my DD, aged 6, said "Mummy, I've got sand in my vagina". (She'd been on the beach and we were in a cafe nearby). Struck me as so odd/sad....

Mind you, I'm obviously one of "those" people as well, as I also find euphemisms for death the worst kind of naff. I'm a "very sadly, Mary died" person all the way. "Mary passed on Saturday" is, apart from anything else, potentially open to distressing misinterpretation.