AIBU to think that Purplebricks don't actually need to know whether I'm married?

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All I want to do is book a fucking viewing!!!

The only options are Mr, Mrs, Miss or Dr. I was very tempted to put Dr but didn't want to have to keep explaining to people that I've faked a PhD out of spite.

Redglitter the post that you are quoting agrees with you!

Oh so It does. That's what I get for speed reading the thread - oooops

Not RTFT sorry

I've used Ms since about 18 about my broth would eventually graduate from master to mr and I thought it was a bit shit to stay with the title I had as a child. I still have some stuff as miss because it's really old, set up by someone else or to much or a pain to change.

I'm a web developer who has to make these form and if not one tells me I use Ms, Mrs, Miss, Mr, Mx, Dr as standard, half the time someone comes along and says that won't fit in their database 🙄 but sometimes it gets the idea through to some people who make the decision. I'm trying from the inside, write your emails or better tweet the companies!

Ms, Mrs, Miss, Mr, Mx, Dr as standard

Is is interestng that we have 3 female titles, 1male and one neutral “as standard”. Excluding Dr as that is related to education level rather a choice for the majority of people.

Why do women need 3 titles to choose from and men only one?

Especially when that “choice” is about marital status.

@reallyanotherone start addressing unmarried men as master?

@reallyanotherone start addressing unmarried men as master?

Definitely :).

Can't believe this thread has got up to 6 pages 😂

I'm afraid I don't deal with firms or companies that don't have up to date equality policy as indicated by not having an Mx or Ms option on their drop downs.

@InsomniacAnonymous on the Aldi photo software when you order it only gives you Mr and Mrs options.

Comrade could work
and no title on the forms, job done

UK also, and have never heard of Mrs denoting an adult woman, it solely refers to married women round here.

Most women I know use Ms, including me and my DD. Because my marital status is irrelevant the vast majority of the time.

I asked my teacher when I was 9 why women had to reveal if they were married when men didn’t. She explained the Ms option, and I have used it ever since (and always will).

I even complained to Marmite that they didn’t have the option on their website, they never got back to me I will also email purplebricks!

I'm the other way. I hate this 'Ms' thing. It sounds like a disease. Like Multiple Sclerosis or something. Like it removes my humanity and makes me just a thing. And 'it'. Miss or Mrs for me, I chew out anyone who ever dares de-humanise me by calling me a 'Ms'.

Forgot to add that once a business had only Mr, Mrs or Ms as options. No Miss. I was effing furious! I wrote them an abusive email. And they changed it. Call me a 'ms' at your peril!!

I agree with Ikeepaforkinmypurse, it is easier and neater if everyone in the family has the same last name. Much easier for keeping track of family trees and ancestry info as well.

SalemBlackCat wow. Are you an old age pensioner? Because “Ms” has been a very widely-used female human title for at least all my life (I’m 45) and probably longer. Now, it may not be a term that you like the sound of (perhaps it conjures up objectionable militant feminists for you as it appears to do for Ikeepafork) I can’t fathom how on earth it might be perceived as de-humanising and equivalent to “it”.

Oh and way to go insulting MS sufferers.

I genuinely can't think of anyone who uses Ms, women always introduce themselves as either "Daisy Smith" or "Mrs. James Smith" depending on the context. I can't see what's wrong with Mr and Mrs J. Smith, do people really want to see "Mr James and Ms Daisy Smith"? Why on earth

Ms is short for Mistress. It goes side-by-side with Mister. Both don't indicate Marriage, or Status. It started in the 17th Century. It fell out of fashion, because Mistress was the name for a "professional" kept OW.

It was reclaimed around the 50's.

"Much easier for keeping track of family trees and ancestry info as well."

If Women hadn't have been written out of documents, other than someone's Wife, or child, then there wouldn't have been the need to have the same Surname.

Once Women were allowed to inherit there should have been a full paper trail available. We shouldn't have been listed in the same manner as goods and chattel were. Its taken too long to get the Bride's occupation on the Marriage Certificate, as one example.

Of course people get annoyed by this shit! @drtrebus

I'm in my late forties, not married, I have DC. What else could I pick ''miss'' !! That feels like a claim to be young and free. I think I'd go with Mr. I own a house and might move. Estate agents really shouldn't be stupid enough to make me choose another estate agent before we've even begun. There are always other estate agents.

ikeepaforkinmypurse, because Married Women are still people on their own right, who have names and separate identities?

Have you come in a time machine to join this thread?

@salemblackcat ''call me a Ms at your peril''.

Wow. That's hilarious. And depressing. Ms is really expressing nothing other than that it's not announcing your marital status.

I cannot believe that people on the thread ''genuinely don't know anybody who goes by Ms''. YOU DO. You just don't know you do.

I think this indicates the need for Ms. So many people still see women in terms of owned by father (ie, young childfree, unmarried) or owned by husband.

When not all women get married, and not all women have children and all women age to not have Ms become the most popular and most appropriate address is so laughably antiquated.

Re the Estate Agent. I thought that, that was because of the duties around the prevention of money laundering and the terrorist act which covered dwellings (which came into being about two years ago?).

My DD bought a house a year ago and the Estate Agent was more involved than they had been previously. But I don't know if that depends on the package the Vendor has chosen. The legal title had to match the one used by the Mortgage company, land registry etc.

Much easier for keeping track of family trees and ancestry info as well.

Can you explain how? I am doing my family tree and maiden names are a pita!

If someone changes their name surely it’s an extra step as you need to find their marriage cert to find their maiden name, to continue tracing their family tree.

Unless you are only interested in male lineage?

My name pinpoints my ancestry to a specific region of a specific country. If i’d have changed it to dh’s very english, very common surname, the link to my ancestry would be lost.

Just thinking of how i’d draw a family tree. Far easier without having to note name changes! Unless i am doing it wrong..

because Married Women are still people on their own right, who have names and separate identities?

I haven't lost any right or my identity because I got married and changed my family name

Have you come in a time machine to join this thread?
You can't comprehend that not everybody agrees with you, and that many young women getting marrying today are still perfectly happy to us the traditional Mr and Mrs, it doesn't stop anyone to do anything and be a person in their own rights.

The difference between you and me is that I am not telling anyone what they should or or not, whilst you can't accept my own choices

Most people who don’t think that they know anyone who goes by “Ms” probably don’t realise it because socially few people use their titles. So when I went by Ms (before I got married) I would have selected it on a form and my formal correspondence would have arrived addressed to Ms, but 95% of the time I was addressed by my given name, even professionally, because nobody works in Are You Being Served? workplaces any more (Are you free Mrs Slocombe?) . In essence, I only really “went by” Ms if someone else wanted to use a title to address me, and those people were few and far between (and usually trying to sell me stuff). Don’t forget that even a passport doesn’t have a title on it.