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AIBU to think that Purplebricks don't actually need to know whether I'm married?

207 replies

borlottibeans · 21/06/2018 20:42

All I want to do is book a fucking viewing!!!

The only options are Mr, Mrs, Miss or Dr. I was very tempted to put Dr but didn't want to have to keep explaining to people that I've faked a PhD out of spite.

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TarragonChicken · 21/06/2018 22:22

Mrs is now used to denote an adult woman (at least in the UK I live in) That must be a different UK than I live in Confused

Never come across this situation, Ms seems such a common option now! I've sometimes been asked, 'is that Miss or Mrs', to which I reply 'Ms'. I think I probably would choose Dr in this situation, but that would wind dp up as he worked rather hard for his PhD!

PuppyMonkey · 21/06/2018 22:27

Is the UK you live in 1952 Walking? Confused

I am an adult woman (51) but very much not a Mrs as I've never been married and would correct anyone who called me a Mrs.

borlottibeans · 21/06/2018 22:30

Oh come on, Mrs is not used to denote an adult woman in the UK. If you weren't (and had never been) married and went around calling yourself Mrs people would think you were a bit weird.

Perhaps I'm finding this more jarring than some because I work in a business to business setting where everyone uses first names as a matter of course, so using any title at all feels a bit strange.

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LighthouseSouth · 21/06/2018 22:33

@CadyHeron

But using Mr makes the point that men aren't asked to fill in forms this way. They're only asked to indicate biological sex. Why am I not afforded the same courtesy? Also, why is the title I've used since adulthood - nearly 30 years! - not available to me on a form that was designed recently?

ladyratterley · 21/06/2018 22:35

I’m glad it’s not just me! I also chose the Dr option as it annoyed me so much.

Banana8080 · 21/06/2018 22:37

Argh I hate this!! It’s not useful info so don’t ask it

reallyanotherone · 21/06/2018 22:38

*Mr = adult Man
Mrs = adult Woman

Is this a trans thread or are people really hung up on an outdated terminology about referring to a 'maiden'?*

I am dr. Quite frequently the options are mr, mrs, miss. I am none of those. mr is as correct, for me, as miss or Mrs.

Mrs is a married woman.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 21/06/2018 22:42

I've never been married and would correct anyone who called me a Mrs
So some people actually want to define themselves as 'unmarried'? Rather than a generic Mrs.

I have always found Ms as very secretive, as in I dont want you to know whether or not I am married. Rather than using the catch all phrase of Mrs to mean woman rather than man.

borlottibeans · 21/06/2018 22:46

But, Walking, Mrs isn't generic, it means married. Ms is the generic option.

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JamPasty · 21/06/2018 22:48

No idea what part of the UK you're in, but in the bit I'm in, Mrs means married woman - it's definitely not a catch-all for adult women.

nocoolnamesleft · 21/06/2018 23:00

Mrs is not generic. It announces that you are married. Miss announces that you are not married. Ms is the generic term for an adult woman.

I once raised merry hell because you could only pick "Dr" if you'd picked male. I am female. But I bloody worked for that Dr. Will use Ms if can't put Dr. Will not use Mrs or Miss.

farine · 21/06/2018 23:03

Ms is the equivalent as Mr, in that it tells you nothing about my marital status. It's not what I'd call secretive- unless you are also saying every Mr is being secretive- and every doctor????

Walkingdeadfangirl · 22/06/2018 00:37

Master is a young man, Miss is a young woman. Mr an adult man, Mrs an adult woman. I accept the historical perception that Miss was a virgin unmarried maiden but why do woman want to adopt a Victorian label in the 21st century? Having worked in secondary school a few times (with a lot of women) all the adult women identified with the term Mrs irrelevant of their marital status.

It just feels backward for women to be using the term Miss in this century. When was the last time you heard anyone call a young man Master?

CadyHeron · 22/06/2018 00:40

I'm with walkingdeadfangirl on this one, that's my perception of the titles too.

LighthouseSouth · 22/06/2018 00:44

I'm baffled by Mrs as adult woman

may I ask where that comes from please?

TarragonChicken · 22/06/2018 00:46

I've come across several octagenarian and nonagenarian women who on being addressed as Mrs X would reply, "It's Miss X, thank you very much!"

LighthouseSouth · 22/06/2018 00:46

Also baffled by Ms as secretive

Do you find Mr secretive?

PremierNaps · 22/06/2018 00:55

What can we as women be offended by today?

OMFGGGGGG there's no neutral title.

I would personally take it to the Daily Fail!

Walkingdeadfangirl · 22/06/2018 00:56

Do you find Mr secretive?
Men dont ask if then can be called Mr, they declare it irrelevant of their marital status.

Women on this thread seem to be very submissive and imply their title is something that is given to them by men. Ms would be fine if women owned it. But its used as a term to imply I dont know you well enough to tell you if I am married. FFS you are a grown woman, Your title is x and its nothing to do with being married. I find more people being assertive using the title of Mrs as nothing to do with their relationship with men and one does not assume marital status or gender because of said title.

LighthouseSouth · 22/06/2018 01:03

"Ms would be fine if women owned it"

You mean if all women used it? Yes, I'd like the choice to be Mr or Ms. I'd do away with Miss and Mrs. But you seem to have a different idea of Mrs, and one I've never come across. I'm in my 40s, is it a newer thing I missed?

ferrier · 22/06/2018 01:04

I have never heard of Mrs being used by anything other than married women either.
So I would be equally annoyed as the op and would definitely (if it wasnt possible to choose no option at all) choose the Dr or Mr options just to make a point.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 22/06/2018 01:09

I'm in my 40s, is it a newer thing I missed?
I think it is a thing amongst younger millennial's, who aren't obsessed about being attached to a man for life. They are calling women older than themselves Mrs and dont use it as a comment on their marital status, which is more often seen as a redundant concept.

LighthouseSouth · 22/06/2018 01:18

Walking, my generation used Ms to denote woman, because a title referring to marital status I.e. Miss or Mrs was redundant to us because it was just a title like Mr.

But you are saying millennials are calling older women Mrs. So for my generation, say you were 18 and getting a job and bank account, you'd be Ms because you'd hit adulthood. So what do you see 18 year old women using as a title please?

Also in my working life we all tend to assume Ms, that's people in age ranges from 20 to 75.

The whole point of Ms is that it's the female equal of Mr.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 22/06/2018 01:27

So what do you see 18 year old women using as a title please?

I dont see 18 yo's (men or women) using a title. It seems to be something that is forced upon you as you get older. ie in this case when you try to buy a house, which most teenagers dont ever do.

LighthouseSouth · 22/06/2018 01:42

Usually it's forced on you for bank card, mobile phone....so plenty of 18 year olds are using a title the same as a 48 year old has to. I don't "use" mine unless form filling.