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To think Lord Sugar should be sacked from the BBC for his tweet?

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BlondeSea · 20/06/2018 14:10

Earlier today Lord Sugar tweeted a photo of the Senegal football team with a caption along the lines of "I recognise these from the beaches in Marbella selling sunglasses!"

He doctored the image to add pictures of sunglasses. People challenged him online and he insisted it was funny and refused to apologise however since then he has apologised - he's obviously been forced to.

I won't add the image here, it's now been taken down but you can see it if you google it. AIBU to think this is disgusting, not funny, and he should be fired from the BBC?

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pacer142 · 20/06/2018 15:33

Just like with Clarkson, there'll be only one loser if Sugar is sacked by BBC and that's the BBC themselves. Sugar won't care either way - if he wants to do more TV, other channels will gladly have him, just as has happened with Clarkson.

I wonder how many black men have taken offence at his tweet, or is it the usually lefty/do-gooders taking offence by proxy??

SemperIdem · 20/06/2018 15:33

It’s obviously racist. Bizarre that anybody has said otherwise.

Bombardier25966 · 20/06/2018 15:34

@GorgonLondon, I look forward to hearing how you have been fighting Islamophobia in the Conservative Party.

Tories have not tackled Islamophobia, Conservative Muslim Forum says

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44378791

A Tory Party Vice-Chair Defended A Councillor's Anti-Muslim Facebook Posts
www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/tory-vice-chair-ben-bradley-defended-a-conservative?utm_term=.qnQBx36M7#.ddr614EaP

Islamophobia 'very widespread' in Conservative Party, says Baroness Warsi

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservatives-islamophobia-tory-party-racism-baroness-warsi-a8394271.html

Heyduggeesflipflop · 20/06/2018 15:34

So...

Corbyn = misunderstood
Sugar = racist bigot

That’s cleared that up then

StealthPolarBear · 20/06/2018 15:34

"
Ironic that he did actually get his start flogging crap to people though"
And that is actually funny

Tinkobell · 20/06/2018 15:34

If it's not racist its very demeaning of those guys. Question is, if someone demeaned Sugars ethnicity in a similar way would he think it funny too...,maybe or maybe not? It's a very thin line he's mucking around with. I don't find his gag funny.

Dothedamnthang · 20/06/2018 15:34

So if Sugar had tweeted a photo of the Japanese team (in the same group as Senegal btw), brandishing photoshopped chopsticks and saying "These guys looks like the cooks at my local Chinese takeaway" that would have been "funny" too?

Haven't read the full thread but he did just that a while back. He posted a picture of a crying Chinese baby and wrote something along the lines of how he/she was upset for being sacked from the Apple assembly line.

What a funny man Hmm

Heyduggeesflipflop · 20/06/2018 15:36

Bombardier - you are funny. Do you realise corbyn himself says there is an anti semitism problem?

Bombardier25966 · 20/06/2018 15:38

Bombardier - you are funny. Do you realise corbyn himself says there is an anti semitism problem?

I've said exactly the same thing. Do keep up.

Heyduggeesflipflop · 20/06/2018 15:39

Bombardier - given he hasn’t solved that problem is he fit to lead the Labour Party?

Hint to help you: no

Etino · 20/06/2018 15:39

That's a good dissection @PoodlesOfFund, the fact that Sweden is rich and Ikea is successful shows that Sugar's tweet is not analogous.

I've tried to come up with an analogy wrt women and come up with this- a picture of a group of women MPs and 'I recognize these from school serving dinner'- not funny.

Even less funny, 'I recognize these from round the back of the station giving blowjobs'

kalapattar · 20/06/2018 15:41

Just because Alan Sugar comes from an oppressed minority doesn't mean he can't be racist as well.

LeahJack · 20/06/2018 15:44

It’s not funny and it is prejudiced and not very pleasant. I find modern day McCarthyists who demand people are sacked and driven from public life and blacklisted all on the basis of one misjudged tweet or comment far more worrying.

Those who seek to impose penalties for thought crime are far more sinister and threatening than anything Sugar has done.

Thewheelshavefallenoffthebus · 20/06/2018 15:45

1 - He isn’t employed by the bbc so they can’t fire him

2 - He is rich and successful enough to not need to worry about money from a tv show

3 - has anyone asked the guys in question their thoughts? Are they offended? Did they agree with him and laugh? Has anyone bothered asking or is this a ‘jump on the bandwagon and be offended because it’s the done thing to be offended at anything these days’

Imo, ridiculous.

Get worked up about the number of children in the uk committing rape due to their exposure to explicit and violent pornographic material online

Get worked up about the levels of poverty in the country

Get angry about the cuts to transport for children with special needs

So many things actually worth getting worked up over simply fly under the radar and then you get Mr Smith from Milton Keynes taking offence because a black man was shown on a Sainsbury’s tv advert eating a banana and so MUST be racist because someone, somewhere once said that black people look like monkeys and monkeys eat bananas. Really? Well, actually, it’s just a guy eating a banana!

Get over yourself op 🙄

IcedPurple · 20/06/2018 15:47

It’s not funny and it is prejudiced and not very pleasant. I find modern day McCarthyists who demand people are sacked and driven from public life and blacklisted all on the basis of one misjudged tweet or comment far more worrying.

Itsnot just 'one misjudged tweet' though is it?

And noone is asking for him to be "driven from public life and blacklisted'. Some are just questioning if someone with Sugar's history of 'misjudged tweets' should be receiving taxpayers' money to appear on the state broadcaster.

Those who seek to impose penalties for thought crime are far more sinister and threatening than anything Sugar has done.

Again, hyperbole. It's not 'thought crime'. He chose to publicly post his 'joke'. And do you believe there should never be any consequences for what public figures say in public fora? Where do you draw the line?

Ruffian · 20/06/2018 15:48

I wonder how many black men have taken offence at his tweet, or is it the usually lefty/do-gooders taking offence by proxy??

I wonder why you wonder?

Also, it's not offence by proxy - racism is offensive to anyone who isn't racist so that's bound to include 'lefties', 'do-gooders' and a hell of a lot of real people as well.

kalapattar · 20/06/2018 15:48

Imo, ridiculous

The "there are bigger issues to get worried and offended about" response.

See responses to sexism for other examples of this response.

ichifanny · 20/06/2018 15:49

Wtf to say that people look like sunglasses sellers just because they happen to be black is ridiculously racist . It’s the most racist thing I’ve heard in a long time and involves stereotyping people based on their colour .

ichifanny · 20/06/2018 15:51

I don’t think Alan sugar would be impressed of people started poking fun at Jews

Thewheelshavefallenoffthebus · 20/06/2018 15:53

Itchy, agreed.

But, there are bigger issues than this. There really are.

Op has a lot of idle time.

I’m off now because I do not.

kalapattar · 20/06/2018 15:55

But, there are bigger issues than this. There really are

There are plenty of issues. But that doesn't mean we should ignore racism, sexism, disablism when it occurs.

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mikeyssister · 20/06/2018 15:56

I'm a idiot. I read the opening post as meaning that Alan Sugar had sold the glasses to these guys in Marbella.

Definitely, definitely racist and distasteful. But I don't think he'll be sacked over it.

IcedPurple · 20/06/2018 15:57

Those posters who can only picture black men selling sunglasses are the racist ones, not those of us who can see any colour.

And so I ask you again...... why did Sugar just so happen to post a picture of the Senagalese team? They're hardly the most high-profile footie team at the World Cup, are they?

Again, why didn't he post a picture of the Swedish team? Or the England team come to think of it? I mean, if it's just about 'people' and all that?

kalapattar · 20/06/2018 16:00

Those posters who can only picture black men selling sunglasses are the racist ones, not those of us who can see any colour

You remind me of Godfrey Bloom.

Your reaction is exactly his reaction when someone pointed out the UKIP pamphlet was very white.

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