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Please make sure children are wearing appropriate clothing

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Damnthatdog · 19/06/2018 16:14

No mini skirts or crop tops, yr 6 leavers party.

So not children, but girls. Please make sure girls aren’t wearing anything which could be deemed provocative. Which is how it reads to me.

AIBU or not?

OP posts:
Jaynesworld · 20/06/2018 07:14

Crop top and mini skirt... not appropriate (and yes I have seen similar on children).
I think it is a blanket ban on the type of clothing so there is no grey area.

ferrier · 20/06/2018 07:18

Crop tops and mini skirts are designed to sexualise and provoke. The age or intention of the wearer is irrelevant. Let's not pretend that short, tight, low cut, etc is for any other reason.

WhiteLily83 · 20/06/2018 07:19

We went to a 6 year olds party at the weekend. Not year 6 but a 6 year old. One of the little girls wore a crop top, high cut denim shorts and wedges with about an inch heel.

It’s not something I would dress my daughter in and honestly I thought the child is very young to be dressed in heels. I didn’t think anything of the crop top and denim shorts other than the air con was very high and the poor girl was freezing!

RebelRogue · 20/06/2018 07:24

@Chewedupcucumber i never mentioned the word paedophile.

I just said issues... which could be issues with clothes deemed as revealing in general,issues with thinking certain type of clothes are only for the male gaze, issues with thinking that avoiding unwanted attention can be avoided by what you wear,issues with not wanting your kids to grow up,issues with thinking that certain clothes mean a certain behaviour etc.
I work in a school and see kids wearing all kinds of things on non uniform days. They're still kids. The only thing I have an issue with is heels (especially on the younger ones) because I worry about their feet and they are so impractical for playtimes and running about.

RebelRogue · 20/06/2018 07:25

@ferrier provoke what?

sashh · 20/06/2018 07:30

girls or boys no one wants their underwear on show to classmates and teachers

Boys are much more likely to flash their underwear while bowling but no one seems to have a problem with seeing boys pants. Girl's waist - big no no, boy's waist fine.

It would be much better to word it as, "please remember children will be active while bowling so their clothing choices should be made with this i mind"

Iceweasel · 20/06/2018 07:42

You bend over when bowling. If you touch your toes and show your bum or pants then a skirt is not long enough.

Crop tops that are just a short t-shirt I think are fine, the ones that are like a sports bra, not appropriate.

They have said children, not girls, so the note is perfectly okay in my opinion.

Timeisslippingaway · 20/06/2018 07:43

I'm sure the school would have issued letters to remind parents to send their children in suitable clothing, this has probably been ignored and they've had to be more specific.

MaisyPops · 20/06/2018 07:57

I'm sure the school would have issued letters to remind parents to send their children in suitable clothing, this has probably been ignored and they've had to be more specific
I agree.
Probably by people of the view 'my DC loves wearing her bikini top and 9 inch pleaser shoes (platformed stripper shoes). Who are you to say it's inappropriate? If you see anything inappropriate about that then you're clearly a predator who needs to take a look in the mirror'.

Then the usual 'but nobody says anything about boys' arguments.
Boys' clothing (like men's) tends not to focus on being sexually provocative. I equally don't particularly want to see underwear or bare chests on boys. I don't think men wandering round Tesco when it hits 20 degrees is appropriate either. Put some clothes on.
Women's clothing (and increasingly girls') seems to be in part designed to be physically attractive to men and to draw attention to areas associated with sexuality.
Sure, we could go down the route of bring obtuse and deny any sexual element to any item of clothing and get into ('but it's only...') or we could say 'you know what, maybe it's about time girls weren't socialised into look pretty and sexy for any moment in time. You're going bowling. Go and kick ass at bowling because you're a girl and awesome and you don't need to be dressed up like a disco princess for bowling. There'll be other occasions to dress up with your disco clothing, but its possible to do that without being dressed like a mini version of a woman on a night out.'

ferrier · 20/06/2018 08:01

Provoke as in attract. So attract attention.
Very rarely will such items be worn primarily for comfort or practicality.

slice · 20/06/2018 17:37

Teachers looking after year 6 children in a public place, asking them to dress appropriately.......scandalous??!!! Boys tend not to dress inappropriately???

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 20/06/2018 17:39

Why on earth would you send your child bowling in a mini skirt?

Sarahrellyboo1987 · 20/06/2018 17:39

I don’t have an issue with it.

Anyone who says clothes aren’t sexual are absolute idiots. Don’t get me wrong - even if you walk down the street naked it doesn’t give anyone the right to violate or intimidate you. But...why let your children dress like that at such a young age?

My daughter can buy clothes like that when she has a job and cat buy them herself.

pollymere · 20/06/2018 17:40

So Hot pants are OK? Hmm. Or ripped jeans? It definitely smacks of double standards. Most Year 6 girls wear heels which I would think is a much bigger issue.

Tomorrowillbeachicken · 20/06/2018 17:41

The heels will be swapped for bowling shoes?

petrolpump28 · 20/06/2018 17:46

I think its sad the school feels its necessary to send this. Just dress the kids in clean, suitable clothing thats not intended for much older kids.

Lollipoplew · 20/06/2018 17:49

No it's not unreasonable, they grow up quick enough without making them look cheap because it's (bang on trend)

RebelRogue · 20/06/2018 17:56

Tbh I'm more appalled at the attitude and language used towards 11 yo girls on here than I would be actually seeing a girl wearing a crop top.

watchingwithinterest · 20/06/2018 17:57

The school need to urgently address what amounts to a sexist letter. I would be asking for them to change their language absolutely.

The girls are ten years old.....

It should read 'all children should come dressed appropriately for the bowling activity given they will be representing the school.'

No girls. No assumptions of being provocative.

I usually don't care too much about letters and would let it go, but you have a point op.

Arkenfield3001 · 20/06/2018 17:58

Given that it’s bowling 🎳 they are just seeking to prevent parents sending Year 6 girls in high heels and anything else over sexualised such as crop tops and mini skirts. We’re talking about Year 6 children here, not 16 year old teenage girls.

I would expect my own daughter to wear a dress or a jumpsuit or just a T-shirt and a pair of jeans!

Another thing to remember is that at the end of the day a bowling alley is a public venue so from a safeguarding point of view the school wants to prevent its pupils becoming “eye candy” to any perpetrators/sexually misguided men as they can DBS other guests.

watchingwithinterest · 20/06/2018 18:02

Why should any girl change what she wears at the age of ten to avoid being 'eye candy' what are we saying to our girls? The onus is on them to conform. I don't think so. What happened to a girl's individuality and style? Her identity....It is a dangerous road no?

If the 'sexually misguided men' find children attractive it won't matter one jot what the child is wearing Arkenfield3001 W

BITCAT · 20/06/2018 18:03

I think the main point here is dressing age appropriately. Which can be difficult..it is for me..i have a 12 year old who is tall and in an adult size 12, its very hard to find appropriate clothes for her age in those sizes. So we stick with longer dresses, leggings, jeans and shorts. Then a selection of t-shirts, vest tops, etc.
I dont think crop tops, mini skirts are appropriate for young girls anyway, that being said women and girls, in an ideal world should be able to wear what they like.

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watchingwithinterest · 20/06/2018 18:11

Mini slappers....wow....just wow

Cubtrouble · 20/06/2018 18:13

Also yet another thread that sends the message it’s perfectly ok to dress as a hooker because it’s up to men not to rape/ogle/Lear at them.

By this standard I hope you are the same people who leaves their houses unlocked and piles of gold around because it’s up to thieves not to take stuff???!

I’m absolutely not victim shaming- horrendous things happen to people through no fault of their own. But surely people could start using some sense