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Please make sure children are wearing appropriate clothing

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Damnthatdog · 19/06/2018 16:14

No mini skirts or crop tops, yr 6 leavers party.

So not children, but girls. Please make sure girls aren’t wearing anything which could be deemed provocative. Which is how it reads to me.

AIBU or not?

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SoftSheen · 19/06/2018 21:08

There's nothing wrong with the email. Adult women (and men) should be able to wear what they want. Some items of clothing are fine for adults and older teenagers, but are inappropriate for 11 year olds, who may be starting to develop physically, but are still children. In some cases parents need to be prompted to help children make good choices.

Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 21:09

Well if the girls can wear crop tops then can the boys go shirtless. Will that be appropriate?
In this case it doesn't matter if it is sexualized or not. It's not appropriate for a school activity. Would you let your sons go shirtless to a school outing? I certainly wouldn't.

RebelRogue · 19/06/2018 21:27

How is a crop top the same as no top at all?

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 21:32

Well if the girls can wear crop tops then can the boys go shirtless

If boys can go shirtless... Are girls allowed to go shirtless as well?

Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 21:40

Why not, everyone seems to think its ok for them to expose as much skin as possible.

LuMarie · 19/06/2018 21:47

If boys can go shirtless... Are girls allowed to go shirtless as well?

Yes. In fact I send my DD to school wearing only spray paint. I do this because the patriarchy wants to target her with a meteorite from space to keep her subservient. She sprays it everywhere but her not yet developed breasts, in solidarity with pseudofeminists.

By her I mean me and by in solidarity with pseudo feminists I mean I am using my spray painted child to act out my anger issues and inteligence deficit.

It's all good though, she loves school trips in her spray paint with her best friend, @TigerDroveAgain 's kid, who wears a mankini. He's ten years old and completely innocent, but I know he is trying to oppress her.

Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 21:49

I witnessed a young girl walking home from school a few days ago (about 13), she had a tiny skirt on with black tights, tights did not stop me getting a flash of about 60% of her arse when she dropped her phone and bent down to pick it up. I'm presuming she was wearing a thong.

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 21:53

time

Who is this everyone?

In fact I send my DD to school wearing only spray paint. I do this because the patriarchy wants to target her with a meteorite from space to keep her subservient. She sprays it everywhere but her not yet developed breasts, in solidarity with pseudofeminists.

I mean, if everyone did this it would be fine, I imagine ;)

Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 21:54

MariaMadita
Everyone who disagrees with the school policy.

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 21:54

There's nothing inherently wrong with women, boys, girls or men being topless...

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 21:56

Time

Ah, ok.

I personally disagree to a certain extent.

Sagging trousers, certain kinds of graphic shirts, key chains... Just as inappropriate imo. But they weren't mentioned for some reason.

InfiniteCurve · 19/06/2018 22:06

Has someone up thread explained why crop tops are inappropriate for bowling??

Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 22:07

Did I say any of those things were appropriate? Nope and I agree they are not.
If they had previously had a problem with things like that they would probably be on the list aswell.

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 22:19

time

I didn't say that you said that these things had been appropriate. (I'm not sure if this sentence is quite right in English...)

But they mentioned (imo) clearly gendered clothing. Considering the victim blaming, body and clothes shaming etc many girls experience?

It was imo extremely unfortunate and rather clumsy.

QuinionsRainbow · 19/06/2018 22:50

Well if the girls can wear crop tops then can the boys go shirtless

Or can the boys wear crop-tops as well? I sometimes wonder why males don't adopt crop-tops or strappy vests as hot weather wear in situations where they are acceptable female wear..

mathanxiety · 20/06/2018 05:35

Clothing can be provocative and therefore inappropriate because of the age of the person wearing it.

Clothing can be sexual and therefore it's inappropriate when the person (child) wearing it can't or shouldn't be sexual.

I disagree, tripYouOut.

What is or is not 'provocative' or 'sexual' is in the eye of the beholder.

If a beholder finds ten year old girls' clothing 'sexual' or 'provocative' then he or she should look away and then find some way to address their problem.

Bezm · 20/06/2018 06:01

Crop tops are not appropriate because IT'S NOT A BEACH PARTY!
I really don't understand why parents actively encourage their children to dress in an inappropriate manner that sexualises them. And that is exactly what crop tops do. I get that if it was a disco in school then crop tops might be worn, but not at a bowling party.
I took my class on a school trip this week to a 'go ape' type of activity. Children were told to wear suitable clothing e.g. Tracksuit bottoms or leggings, t shirts and sweatshirts. We had several girls turn up in skirts, 2 in very short sparkly crop tops and a couple of boys in t shirts with pictures of marijuana plants on them!
They all ended up being dressed in a selection of stuff from the lost property box.

TheWomp · 20/06/2018 06:23

It's ten pin bowling. Mini skirts would be a poor choice of clothing as the girls have to keep bending over, so actually that one is a fair point.

RebelRogue · 20/06/2018 06:48

If you see anything inappropriate or sexual(ised) in this image then you have issues.

Please make sure children are wearing appropriate clothing
Chewedupcucumber · 20/06/2018 06:49

@mathnxiety

Children aren’t sexual, and most people don’t find them so.

Children wearing clothing styles designed for adults to make adults appear sexy looks jarring and wrong.

In the same way that those children in American beauty pageants wearing a full face of makeup and a bikini looks jarring and wrong - because these are not meant for children, and these children are adopting adult signifiers of sexuality at the encouragement of their parents. It’s awful.

It’s not that hard is it?

Do you have a vested interest in seeing children in inappropriate othing?

Timeisslippingaway · 20/06/2018 07:03

Theres that " victim blaming" phrase again. Its not victim blaming, it's about certain clothing being inappropriate for a school outing. I wouldn't take my daughter/son out bowling in a crop top and mini skirt because it is unnecessary for a child to be so exposed, I would also find it inappropriate if grown woman/man of 25 came bowling wearing those items of clothing.

Timeisslippingaway · 20/06/2018 07:08

QuinionsRainbow

Crop tops were basically designed so that a woman can wear as little on top as possible but still have her breasts covered. Really no need for males to wear a crop top as they do not have breasts so some go topless in hot weather.

Timeisslippingaway · 20/06/2018 07:10

QuinionsRainbow
Us we have already covered the, can boys wear crop tops, debate. Still no in this situation, still inappropriate.

Chewedupcucumber · 20/06/2018 07:11

@rebelrogue - when I look at that picture, I see a sweet young girl wearing a top that for some reason doesn’t cover her stomach, which looks inappropriate for her age and level of maturity, and uncomfortable.

I wore crop tops when I was around 18-22. I had a smoking body, and the reason I wore these was to show it off and get male attention. So if I was going out, I would make sure I was tanned and wear a crop top - job done. I have never worn one since, because I’m not interested in showing off my body anymore, and they aren’t practical or comfortable.

I would never have worn one as a child, as my mum would never have let me wear clothing that wasn’t meant for my age. I remember getting my first halter top aged 14-15 (which I desperately wanted to look ‘fit’ in!) and being so excited at this marker of adulthood.

As for the people trying to imply that anyone has a problem with children wearing inappropriate clothes is a paedophile - what are you on?!?! You can’t gaslight me into thinking it’s alright

MaisyPops · 20/06/2018 07:11

It's context.
A crop top t shirt with unicorns on it with jeans is obviously not inappropriate for a child.
A super clingy, low cut crop top is someone deciding to dress their child in clothing typically worn by women because of it's sexual.appeal (which could be go gain sexual attention or could just be to make them feel good).

For school events, it's not really appropriate to be seeing children's bottoms, underwear, chest, tummy etc. Essentially if an adult wouldn't wear it to a dress down day at work or work event, it probably isn'r school appropriate.

So short mini skirt and crop top - probably not for a school event
Jeans slung so low everyonr has to see boxers or bum & shirtless - probably not ok for a school event

I'd wear bra like bikini top at the beach. I think the trend for wearing 'crop tops' which look like lingerie is a stupid look for the middle of the shops on a Saturday afternoon. I wear yoga pants to the gym, but wouldn't to an interview.
Context of clothing matters regardless of age or genitals

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