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Please make sure children are wearing appropriate clothing

501 replies

Damnthatdog · 19/06/2018 16:14

No mini skirts or crop tops, yr 6 leavers party.

So not children, but girls. Please make sure girls aren’t wearing anything which could be deemed provocative. Which is how it reads to me.

AIBU or not?

OP posts:
BlancheM · 19/06/2018 19:29

Chewed your 'pseudofeminist' argument where females are supposedly encouraged to show off their sexuality is based on you thinking that these children would be sexualised. You don't get it. You're debating with people who don't see anything sexual in a child dressed in a skirt and crop top.

LuMarie · 19/06/2018 19:30

...and @Pengggwn drops the mic:)

LuMarie · 19/06/2018 19:36

@placemats is does not mark out female pupils.

Boys wear cropped tops.

It's a stylish look done properly.

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 19:37

@HushabyeMountainGoat

Yeah, I get that.

I guess I just remember my own school days.

'We' weren't allowed to wear sleeveless clothes, anything that showed brastraps or other kinds of underwear, short-ish skirts or have 'unnatural' hair colours.

Whereas the boys were allowed to wear sleeveless muscle shirts, wear shirts with rather inappropriate prints, noone cared weather they showed their pants etc...

imnotadragon · 19/06/2018 19:38

Oh god this reminds me of my nan bless her at the yr 6 prom she did my makeup orange face bright red lipstick and bought me some fishnet tights and a black dress, I'd begged her for and my mum went batshit crazy asking why I'd been dressed like a prostitute 😂

RebelRogue · 19/06/2018 19:44

Normally schools send messages like that when something has cause an issue before.

Tbh I'd clarify what they mean.

If they actually mean appropriate for the activity then that's fair enough. For example really tight skirt wouldn't be appropriate. Or some girls might've worn similar before and then refused to take part due to flashing,tops riding up etc.

If they mean appropriate so that the boys/public don't say/do something then that is not ok. Police the bad behaviour if and when it happens,not what girls wear.

RainbowGlitterFairy · 19/06/2018 19:46

I end all letters about trips for school and Guiding with 'Please make sure children are dressed appropriately' and might add something like no skirts if there is a reason for it, I've had girls turn up for rock climbing in a skirt for example, but there is no actual reason a girl couldn't go bowling in a mini skirt and crop top if that's what she wanted to do.

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 19:46

imnot my grandmother bought me dark/wine red, with about 9 to 10 cm heels (with small plateau, the heel and plateau were patent leather, the rest suede) when I was... Maybe 14?

'To sit and have coffee at the bars' ;)

I used to love these shoes. So much :)

derxa · 19/06/2018 19:47

If they mean appropriate so that the boys/public don't say/do something then that is not ok. Police the bad behaviour if and when it happens,not what girls wear. It's meant to be a relaxed event. Going bowling and having a laugh. Even more pressure on poor bloody teachers having to 'police' inappropriate comments.

MariaMadita · 19/06/2018 19:49

*dark, wine red shoes. Oops.

My first pair of 'real heels' ;)

(My mother hated them, btw...)

mathanxiety · 19/06/2018 19:49

Agree with Fucksakewhatatwat.

Hot pants and a crop top would be fine for bowling. They are fine for gymnastics and runners in all distances wear them. Ditto high jumpers and pole vaulters.

But I suspect the school is conditioning girls to accept shaming because of their clothing, and conditioning parents - or affirming the conditioning already done - to believe that girls as young as ten are really just a pack of little vamps who need reminders about what is 'appropriate'.

Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 19:51

Like a PP said children need to learn what is appropriate and what's not. If this is the attitude we are allowing children to have these days, there's not much hope for the future. What would you think if your child's teacher rolled up to school in a mini skirt and crop top?

LuMarie · 19/06/2018 19:52

@placemats

Oh good god.

Would it be okay for a sixty year old woman to go to a bowling party dressed in a mini skirt and a crop top?

What is the appropriate clothing to wear in this situation, a bowling alley, for all menstruating women?

Anything that won't show blood through your knickers if you happen to have a leak. That's not just for bowling, it's kind of a standard thing.

Or do you think that women shouldn't go?

Yeah that's it. They should be in the kitchen, bitching about transgender people, making me dinner.

Report away, you'll get a baffled response.

They are being advised what is NOT appropriate. They shouldn't need advised, but it's a helpful reminder if you are a busy harassed parent trying to manage a million things or just a bit feckless about how a child should be appropriately dressed for a trip with school safeguarding.

Ihuntmonsters · 19/06/2018 19:57

ScattyCharly I looked for pictures with boys and girls wearing what looked like shorts, not sure it makes a difference if they are skorts or shorts really, my comment was about why girls are expected to show their bare thighs where the boys equivalent covers up so much more flesh when it comes to sports but then similar length shorts/skirts get them into trouble outside of PE lessons.

It just feels like double standards. Also my children's school had a no 'short shorts' rule, which as a parent I had no issue with until I came to buy dd shorts and found that our local stores pretty much only had short shorts for girls. As she wasn't comfortable wearing boys shorts we had to search for ages to get something that worked. Short is very heavily marketed at girls, it's not surprising that's what they want to buy and to wear.

RebelRogue · 19/06/2018 19:58

@derxa so instead they police what girls wear because it's easier? That's the attitude that stinks.

A TA told my 6(yes six!!!) yo DD that she had to wear shorts under her dress if she wanted to do cartwheels at playtime. Bollocks to that.

Glassofredandapackofcrisps · 19/06/2018 20:02

Tripyouout yes a thousand times yes!

Pleasebeafleabite · 19/06/2018 20:02

Hot pants and a crop top would be fine for bowling

Of course they wouldn’t. The child would be bloody frozen. It’s not competitive sport where running pants and singlets aid performance

Glassofredandapackofcrisps · 19/06/2018 20:03

Can't stand little girls dressing as mini adults. Would say children but I'm yet to see a boy in a crop top or mini

derxa · 19/06/2018 20:04

The pressure on young girls is ridiculous now.

Appropriate clothing:
swimming: one piece swim suit
PE: shorts/track suit bottoms and PE top
Bowling: T shirt and loose trousers/leggings
I used to do this outing for Y6 every year. I don't remember what the girls wore except for the fact that they never wore mini skirts and crop tops.

HushabyeMountainGoat · 19/06/2018 20:11

@Glassofredandapackofcrisps in fairness, little boys do dress like adult men. Its just that adult men tend to dress in clothes that cover their bodies!

Timeisslippingaway · 19/06/2018 20:14

Glassofredandapackofcrisps
I have to agree, I have yet to see a young boy in a crop top or mini skirt, I probably will one day. I will still think it is inapropriate.

Flaminglingos · 19/06/2018 20:30

@BlancheM the girl refused to wear the bowling shoes as they didn't go with her outfit! ShockConfused Her mother didn't encourage her to wear the bowling shoes and had a go at the staff member for refusing to let the girl play.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 19/06/2018 20:50

All I see here is victim blaming little girls.
You see, that is why we need a case system in English Hmm

TigerDroveAgain · 19/06/2018 20:53

If I had a son in that class I’d send him in a mankini.

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 19/06/2018 20:57

I have yet to see a young boy in a crop top or mini skirt, I probably will one day. I will still think it is inapropriate.

But when men/boys do strip off it's generally not thought that the person is trying to be sexually provocative. Pants hanging out their jeans, shirts off in summer, no one thinks "oooh what they're asking for trouble".

Girls walking about in mini skirts is seen in a way by many as sexual. But who made it sexual? Not the girls themselves, but the dumbass porn addicts who fetishize little girls. Or handmaidens like Britney Spears who play up to such images.

Girls just wear what they wear because their mates do. And how on earth is a crop top inappropriate for bowling?