Please make sure children are wearing appropriate clothing

[Damnthatdog]

No mini skirts or crop tops, yr 6 leavers party.

So not children, but girls. Please make sure girls aren’t wearing anything which could be deemed provocative. Which is how it reads to me.

AIBU or not?

@mrsm43s surely you see that it is simpler for the school to ban mini skirts amd cropped tops rather than get in to specific lengths in cm of just what skirts are acceptable.

While there of course are skirts and cropped tops that are cut sensibly, there are also lots that are not. A rule of thumb and a bit of common sense is all that is needed

@placemats

Well, I’m sure the boys arent allowed to wear crop tops or mini skirts either?!

But the clothing they have mentioned is inappropriate for year 6 children whatever their sex.

@Myotherusernameisbest

Yes, for a lake trip, I think you are right to say trust that the school know what they are doing.

If I was going to lie in the sun covered in sunblock beside a lac somewhere private, shorts a top and flip flops are fine.

If I was running around, walking, hiking, moving a lot as kids are much more likely to be doing and want to do, plus I hadn't yet learned to always remember to put on endless amounts of sunscreen or that sometimes no amount of sunscreen is enough and have to cover up, an alternative is better. Trainers, jeans and a cute t-shirt would work just fine, still pretty and fun, you just won't get a child returned sunburn, covered in scratches and insect bites with bruised toes or twisted ankles.

Schools know what they are doing and if they seem to be erring on the edge of caution, this is something I think we should want, as children are in their care.

I really really don’t understand the feminist stance (on this forum at least) that women should wear whatever the hell they like and everyone should just get over it.
What about decorum and decency? I work in an office, if I went in tomorrow in a strapless top or hot pants I would be taken aside for A Word.
And that’s because those things are just not appropriate for work.
Some clothes are not office appropriate.
Some clothes are not age appropriate.
Other clothes are not appropriate for certain activities.
It is just common sense

Would a miniskirt be acceptable if modesty shorts were worn underneath?

placemats
I feel like you are clutching at straws now. You asked for examples of appropriate clothing (demanded actually), yet you are not happy with those examples. What were you hoping people would say?

Pretty much everyone agrees that it's right the boys and girls change separately in KS2 because they need privacy ie don't need the opposite sex staring at them in their underwear. But in a bowling alley it is the right of girls to show their classmates their underwear. Ok then.

Lati rose -

It’s not feminist, it’s pseudofeminist.

It’s trying to find empowerment in women being sexualised and reduced to attractive looking objects, who should ‘show off what they have’.

A feminist argument would say that the patriarchy wants to keep women validly obsessed with their appearance and sexuality and devoting hours to how they look, whilst wearing clothes designed to titolate me , whilst men are encourage to wear ‘functional’ clothes in order to achieve things and gain power

@mrsm43s - has given you examples that my dd would love. Nothing "inappropriate " about them.

*lapinrose

**validly=vapidly

*titilate men

Shouldn’t have typed so fast and angrily

Why bother wear skirts at all? Why not just send them to school in their knickers on a hot day? After all, the knickers cover everything they need to

Would a miniskirt be acceptable if modesty shorts were worn underneath?

It's just getting silly now.

Personally if a skirt was so short that my 10yo needed to wear shorts so she could bend over without her arse cheeks showing then she wouldn't be wearing it for bowling, or at all probably. Unless at an appropriate location e.g. the beach. School? No.

Why is this so complicated?

@FlyingElbows

no teacher is having to cope with Danny being sent in dressed in Freddie Mercury hotpants and a string crop top

I would literally want to be a teacher just to be a part of that hilarity! Although if it was the kid's style, they chose it as a much older student, not tight tight ahem and it was age appropriate, why not.

There's the difference as you say. It's not the gender of the children, it's the responsibility, or lack therefore, in what they allow their children to wear, at what age and to what type of occasion.

It's a life skill, parents should be teaching it!

I actually don't think mini skirts or crop tops are so bad on young girls. I'd be concerned if they were wearing heals at a bowling alley though (or anywhere really where they should be running and playing). Most 11 year old girls in DS's school seem to flash their knickers all the time (handstands or sitting in school concerts with their legs spread out.).

I'm guessing that many posters haven't met 11 year old girls recently. Why are girls to blame for perverts?
Are the girls allowed to wear shirts. Do these have to be Bermuda shorts?
Surely it's what is a good outfit for bowling that matters which can include what @mrsm43s linked to.

I just had a look at 'school sports kit' on google images. Up came lots of pictures of boys in shorts and girls in very short skirts. How can very short skirts be required for playing competitive sports / PE lessons but then termed inappropriate for social sports? I also noted that where both boys and girls are allowed shorts the girls shorts are much shorter than the boys shorts, sometimes by miles with girls short lines at just below bum level and boys just above knees.

www.google.com/search?q=school+sports+kit&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6gIK3peDbAhXBKH0KHRExCScQ_AUICigB&biw=1440&bih=819#imgdii=PHK8NewdiO3ltM:&imgrc=--YOetCzXvp61M:

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www.google.com/search?q=school+sports+kit&client=firefox-b&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6gIK3peDbAhXBKH0KHRExCScQsAQIKA&biw=1440&bih=819#imgrc=WUlNMrm6hlMqkM:

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I think you’ll find the majority of those short skirts of school sports kit are actually skorts, ie the skirt has integral shorts so you never show your knickers. People definitely wear “shorties” underneath netball dresses, usually to match the dress.
www.google.co.uk/search?q=netball+shorties&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#imgrc=m0Af9QWP4MNg-M:

As long as you also tell boys to not show their underwear, wear violent or sexist graphic t-shirs etc...

Then yes, this might be appropriate. But when do it?

And what's wrong with crop tops?

Miniskirts are inappropriate for any child of any age, they're a paedophiles dream, so protect you children from the dirty vastards out there. You shouldn't even think twice about this issue.

Ihunt. The example you shared looks to me like a skort. I don't personally like those examples but i think there is generally an effort to provide a kit that students will at least like in order to minimise non compliance

Maria a cropped top could include everything from just below the belly button to basically a bralet. The former is probably fine in most casual situations, the latter not so much.

It's simpler for the school to say no crop tops than to specify which tops are/are not ok.

@upsideup

You're talking about a crop top and high waisted skirt for a disco party. This is actually quite a stylish idea.

There's a vast difference between a chic outfit that is stylish but not just too much skin and two tint pieces of clothing that are tight and barely cover underwear. If the waist on a skirt is high style as you are describing and crop top sits a few cms above and isn't just a bra with a slightly different shape, that's your and her choice and it is even and location appropriate.

For sports, I wear small crop tops and yoga pants style tight leggings... to yoga! Yes completely appropriate for sports. If your daughter did gymnastics in a small leotard thingy at a class, that is sport appropriate, but would you let her walk home through town in what is essentially a swimsuit? It's location and activity appropriate.

I think the school are just trying to cover for all eventualities. Yes I think leggings or jeans and a modest crop top would be ok at that age for bowling if I was there, but short skit and crop top can range from classy, just, to practically just covering underwear. The school are responsible and will also be trying to teach various life skills. Like don't go out in public when we are responsible for you wearing clothes that are probably going to end up being trouble and please also learn that style says yes show some skin, but you don't need to show it all at once. Anna Winter, who they will never have heard of, would object to breaking basic style rules:) High waisted skirt and cropped top sounds pretty for a party.

Leggings or jeans and very modest crop top sounds ok for bowling, but if the school doesn't specify no short skirts or crop tops, chances are there could be kids in both a tiny skirt and tiny top. Bad style as an aside, but also not appropriate for location and activity. So they just set a simple rule.

It is just common sense Something which is sorely lacking on this thread.