How the hell is it possible to look like this woman??

[Tangled59]

OK I qas having that Sunday sadness feeling and now I'm feeling casually pissed off and jealous because I went on FB and an ad popped up featuring this woman (Tammy Hemsomething apparently).

How is it possible to look like this?! What I mean is is this the result of just working out or what? But how can she get her body fat down so low for the waist, but not on her bum or tits?!

And let's not pretend that the vast majority of cosmetic surgery recipients are female.

Oops... meant to say are "not female"!

Obviously.

IcedPurple
pot... kettle.. black...
aren't you spending a ridiculous amount of time picking on everything about this woman!

Go to a gym, speak with professional from the fitness industry, go and look at what real people can look like if the put the right work into it. Stop pretending exercise and the right diet cannot give you that body, or that it's not a natural shape for some! Some women are born like that.

Stop pretending exercise and the right diet cannot give you that body,

Is there an arse expanding diet you can recommend?

"The calories go straight to your arse, not your waist!"

Tangled59

Thanks! I have stuff to do so really should get back to it.... but it seems to be one of those threads lol!

I'm not suggesting that women cannot both be attractive or beautiful, and intelligent, what I guess I can't understand is why a woman wants to be looked at in a purely sexual manner. It's the sexualisation of the pose, the big lips etc. that I am struggling to understand.

Beauty standards have always been "bizarre", in any community and part of the world.

I agree that they've always been hard to achieve. I do think it's overexaggeration to say her body is "bizarre" though.

Her lips are pretty full. Possibly surgery, or that they're just her natural lips. I had a quick Google and found out she's biracial; lots of mixed race women spend their lives combatting accusations of cosmetic surgery because they ended up getting the features that are currently deemed attractive, which are usually a mix of the typical features of more than one race.

If she does lots of butt workouts to enhance it and had a fair-sized bum anyway it's perfectly plausible. Her waist I think she's used a waist trainer and lots of workouts too.

If you were willing to do that, especially if you have a naturally curvy figure, you could get a body very similar to hers, especially if your breasts are naturally quite big. And like I said, depending on the angle, she just looks hourglass shaped and not "cartoonish".

I agree that it's something of a lazy cop-out or self-indulgence to insist that it's all surgery. I quite recently started exercising and that's only twice a week, a run and a workout in the gym. But if I was willing to put more time, effort and money into it her body would be achievable.

The fact that I don't want to do so isn't a failing, nor is it something I should be proud of. It's just life. If I was dissatisfied that my body didn't look like hers I would put more effort in, not suggest that her body is bizarre and impossible to get.

Men don't get botox because they have a few lines. Or have penile implants because they're not as big as they'd like.

you do know nothing about the beauty industry , do you! It's actually quite amusing.
Plastic surgeons have a massive boost of appointments after April, after bonus time. Botox is for both genders, so are veneers, guys have pecs implants, nose jobs, face lifts, have the bags under their eyes removed, hair implants. Some even get calf implants - I am not sure why, but there you go.

Your husband might have had nothing done ever, but it doesn't mean men are not into beauty and fitness as much as women, if not more.

instagram is full of muscly guys showing off their abs.

You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about.

Some women are born like that.

Hahahahahaaaaa!

Funniest thing I've ever read on Mumsnet!

I cant wait for this to be the norm again :)

Is there an arse expanding diet you can recommend?

You really don't know what you are talking about, do you. If you are that interested, research the workouts to develop your butt, and better, try it yourself. You could see by yourself how much of an arse you can get.

If you look at many fat women, they tend to have a flat arse, whilst a lot of toned women have a much more firm, rounded and generally bigger butt. It's not rocket science or surgery, it's just exercise.

Try it, you'll be surprised. Just because you can't be arsed doesn't mean everybody is like you, sorry!

Is that Marilyn? Gorgeous!

We often look back at women in earlier eras and think how awful it was that they were required to submit to so much artifice - corsets, girdles etc. But it's much worse now imho. At least you could take off the corset. Now women are being encouraged to alter their actual bodies - whether through surgery or extreme 'fitness' which takes up a good deal of their time. And the end result is much, much less attractive than the lady above.

Fontella no you are right, no woman in the world is naturally slim waisted with a bigger behind
give me strength

Well, this Tammy is, I'm sure, aiming her product at young women. And girls.

I'd say that's she's targeting people interested in fitness and mothers. As you'd expect

Is there an arse expanding diet you can recommend?

I thought you could so literally typed "what should I eat to get a bigger bum" into Google.

Obviously diet alone won't magically expand your arse cheeks but the right diet with exercise will help.

trulybooty.com/foods-that-make-your-buttocks-bigger-naturally/
www.newhealthadvisor.com/Foods-That-Make-Your-Butt-Grow.html
howtogetabiggerbutt.info/what-to-eat-to-get-a-bigger-butt-a-butt-boosting-diet-plan-for-the-week/

Literally the first three articles that popped up.

I'm not suggesting that women cannot both be attractive or beautiful, and intelligent, what I guess I can't understand is why a woman wants to be looked at in a purely sexual manner. It's the sexualisation of the pose, the big lips etc. that I am struggling to understand.

I don't think taking one photo means she wants to be looked at purely from a sexual standpoint.

From her page I think it's clear that the things she's talking about most are her fitness career and her kids. So I'd say those are the things most important to her.

One night when she was feeling sexy in her underwear or getting £1000 to take a picture in a specific brand of underwear she snapped a photo and put it online.

If she's selling underwear more angled at recreational purposes, she's probably going to go for a pose that looks sexy. Similarly, if the underwear brand is more marketed to that sort of look then that is what she'll go for.

If she just feels sexy, she'll probably post a picture that looks sexy. I don't think one racy picture - which she might have been paid for anyway - suggests she values herself as sexual first and foremost.

Try it, you'll be surprised. Just because you can't be arsed doesn't mean everybody is like you, sorry!

You're right. Can't be arsed.

I quite like my arse. I'm no J-Lo but nobody's ever complained.

I like my tits too.

And my lips.

Can't be arsed with the arsy stuff.

Is that Marilyn? Gorgeous!
stunning

interestingly enough, she famously had plastic surgery and she was tiny and very careful about her diet.

posted too soon:but many people like to claim Marilyn was completel stupid, because she was so pretty.

Standards of women haven't improved much, have they.

From her page I think it's clear that the things she's talking about most are her fitness career and her kids. So I'd say those are the things most important to her

It's great to be an expert on the personal priorities of someone you had never heard of one week ago.

she famously had plastic surgery and she was tiny and very careful about her diet.

She had a nose job early in her career but nothing else as far as I'm aware.

what's the moral difference between a nose job and an (hypothetical) lip procedure of some kind?

I don't understand why there is this big obsession with exaggerated looks? I don't follow celebs or their culture so it'll go over my head but I just don't get it. Everything is completely out of proportion. I also don't understand why such young women are having plastic surgery and Botox, didn't that used to be for wrinkles because it's being used by people way too young to have any.

There's no 'moral' difference.

Actresses and others in the public eye will often alter parts of themselves. Nose jobs are particularly popular (some say most folks in Hollywood have had rhinoplasty of some sort) as a nose which might look fine in 'real life' can look like a real honker in photographs.

And if your job depends at least in part on the way you look, that's a good career move.

However, encouraging young women (and yes it's nearly always women) to have bits of themselves cut open simply because they 'don't like them' is totally different. Why should an accountant or a teacher have a 'perfect' nose or pair of tits? An actor or model maybe, but why should ordinary women, whose job does not depend on their looks, be encouraged to have invasive surgery in pursuit of some 'ideal'?

We often look back at women in earlier eras and think how awful it was that they were required to submit to so much artifice - corsets, girdles etc. But it's much worse now imho. At least you could take off the corset. Now women are being encouraged to alter their actual bodies - whether through surgery or extreme 'fitness' which takes up a good deal of their time. And the end result is much, much less attractive than the lady above.

I don't think which one you think is more attractive suggests which one is better...

Corsets did physical damage to the body. If you've got a good plastic surgeon, there will probably be no physical damage to your body. Same with healthy eating and exercise.

Waist trainers are the only thing that could literally damage your body like a corset, but to a much lesser extent and based on your use of them.

Funniest thing I've ever read on Mumsnet!

That some women have natural hourglass shapes where their behinds and breasts are large and they have a slim waist?

It's what I was saying before about pretending her body is utterly bizarre. Of course there are women who are born with a similar hourglass body shape.

As far as I'm aware Rihanna might have had plastic surgery on her nose, nothing else.

Kate Winslet is very anti plastic surgery.

Beyoncé literally wrote a song against plastic surgery.

I don't think which one you think is more attractive suggests which one is better...

No it doesn't. Any more than you enjoying Tammy and her fake bits makes her 'inspiring'.

Corsets did physical damage to the body. If you've got a good plastic surgeon, there will probably be no physical damage to your body.

Corsets can be damaging yes. But to claim there is no risk from surgery is nonsensical. Having a part of your body cut open and altered always carries risks, no matter how skilled the surgeon. Which is why most people only do it as a last resort, for health reasons. Not because they want an arse you could park a bike in.

It's great to be an expert on the personal priorities of someone

Obviously I'm not an expert. But - correct me if I'm wrong - if she was selling herself as a sex object surely her personal photos would be of her posing sexily in lingerie? Not her children or fitness activities?

However, encouraging young women (and yes it's nearly always women) to have bits of themselves cut open simply because they 'don't like them' is totally different. Why should an accountant or a teacher have a 'perfect' nose or pair of tits? An actor or model maybe, but why should ordinary women, whose job does not depend on their looks, be encouraged to have invasive surgery in pursuit of some 'ideal'?

I don't think it should be encouraged. I also don't think it should be stigmatised or criticised.

If there's a teacher who absolutely cannot stand her ears, they make her feel self-conscious and uncomfortable and hates them, I don't see why she shouldn't have surgery if they will make her feel better. It's not my business, and it could make a huge difference to her life.

Any more than you enjoying Tammy and her fake bits makes her 'inspiring'.

I said her dedication and ambition and what she does with her children made her inspiring, not the size of her boobs.

Corsets can be damaging yes. But to claim there is no risk from surgery is nonsensical. Having a part of your body cut open and altered always carries risks, no matter how skilled the surgeon. Which is why most people only do it as a last resort, for health reasons. Not because they want an arse you could park a bike in.

The corsets women used to wear were incredibly damaging. I mean, hugely. I still remember reading my History textbook as a child and learning about that little girl who died because she couldn't breathe as it was compressing her lungs so much.

Also, corsets were inherently damaging. Their function was to press into your bones, skin and organs to give you a body shape at a time with very little understanding of how the body worked. Plastic surgery is not inherently damaging. There are risks, but by selection of a good surgeon you can minimise them.

It's also simply not true that people only get surgery for life-or-death reasons. Plenty of people have conditions or problems that they could live with, but they'd prefer to get the surgery because it will improve their overall quality of life.