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to use the gents' toilets?

269 replies

Hadalifeonce · 15/06/2018 11:48

On arriving at Gatwick after our holiday, I was desperate for the loo; the queue for the ladies was almost to the baggage reclaim belt, being of a 'certain age' I was busting.
I told DH of my problem, he said he would go into the gents to see if there was a free cubicle, he called me in, I dashed into the 1st cubicle (one of many free) had my wee and dashed out again. I was getting my cleansing gel out of my handbag when a man, who had obviously been in the toilets at the time, made a pointed comment about some women not being prepared to wait their turn and to feeling free to go into the gents.
I turned round and stated that as a middle aged woman with no pelvic floor, I couldn't wait. This seemed to take the wind from his sails.
But was I being unreasonable to use the gents?

OP posts:
Octopeppa · 15/06/2018 20:57

No woman in a great hurry to use the loo is going to waste time looking at the men.

SoupDragon · 15/06/2018 21:00

A woman watching a man wee is not even vaguely similar to a man watching a woman wee where it's obviously for sexual kicks or abuse instead of by accident.

If it’s for sexual kicks or abuse instead of by accident it is exactly the same. Just if they are both by accident it is the same.

SoupDragon · 15/06/2018 21:01

No woman in a great hurry to use the loo is going to waste time looking at the men.

No man in a great hurry to use the loo is going to waste time looking at the women.

SoupDragon · 15/06/2018 21:03

Men are just as entitled to single sex spaces, such as toilets, as women.

Andrewofgg · 15/06/2018 21:06

Indeed. There are many places from which men wrongly exclude women and a men’s loo is not one of them.

howfardoestherabbitholego · 15/06/2018 21:10

I can see why you did over wetting yourself but tbh yes you were BU

I don't want biological men in the women's. They've every right not to have biological women in the men's

Octopeppa · 15/06/2018 21:14

octopeppa. Where's the safe space for women that have been attacked by women as well then

If all things were equal the same would apply, but both men and women are much more likely to be attacked by a man. So protection for everyone from men is statistically
more of a priority.

Octopeppa · 15/06/2018 21:17

No man in a great hurry to use the loo is going to waste time looking at the women.

I agree, and haven't objected to emergency use by men of the ladies' if necessary.

Hoopaloop · 15/06/2018 21:26

Piss yourself or piss in a toilet: YANBU.

TacoLover · 15/06/2018 21:29

A woman watching a man wee is not even vaguely similar to a man watching a woman wee where it's obviously for sexual kicks or abuse instead of by accident.
Where are you getting this idea from? Women would only look at men by accident but men would only look at women to abuse them? What kind of bullshit? I think you keep failing to grasp that women can be sexual abusers too, and if a man had been sexually abused by a woman they wouldn't know if a woman was looking at them by accident or in a malicious way would they? They would be affected just the same.

I'm really astounded at the amount of posters on here who seem to think that men don't deserve privacy from women. The generalisations and assumptions that all men don't care or that women wouldn't affect any of them....no wonder so many men feel as if they can't talk about sexual assault when some people think women would only look at a man's genitals 'by accident'Hmm

Cornishclio · 15/06/2018 21:36

In an emergency I see no reason why you should not do this particularly if your DH had gone in first to check out the situation first and the cubicles were no where near the urinals. If a man was in a similar position and used the ladies I would have no issue with this. Why don't they have separate cubicles for both men and women and urinals for men only. Why so pedantic about them being separate. I think it would be a petty person indeed who took issue with this if you were in danger of soiling yourself.

siwel123 · 15/06/2018 21:37

Well said @TacoLover.
I would mind if I was stood at an urinals and a women walked in. I have had no bad experiences with women, but I would still find my privacy invaded and feel awkward.

TalbotAMan · 15/06/2018 21:47

A woman watching a man wee is not even vaguely similar to a man watching a woman wee where it's obviously for sexual kicks or abuse instead of by accident.

Many years ago I stayed on a French campsite. The toilet block was divided down the middle into male and female sections. The urinals were at the end of the block -- and, being French, had no door so that anyone passing could see right in down the full line of urinals.

The number of women who took a detour to have a good look at the men relieving themselves was astonishing. I don't know what sexual kicks they may or may not have got but I am certain they weren't there by accident.

fascinated · 15/06/2018 21:48

Don’t get me wrong , I agree men need privacy and dignity too. I’m just a bit amazed at the number of folk who try and pretend that women are as much a risk to men as vice versa.

siwel123 · 15/06/2018 21:55

I know men are more likely to assault women then vice versa.
However men have just as much right to privacy as women when going to toilet

busybarbara · 15/06/2018 22:29

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siwel123 · 15/06/2018 22:41

@busybarbara. Well same to female genitals then Hmm.

Regardless, men and women deserve privacy and dignity when at the toilet.

TacoLover · 15/06/2018 22:44

Oh come on, they're vile and only good for one thing.

You're really starting to repulse me now. Why do you think some women sexually abuse men then? Or do you not think that happens eitherHmm

siwel123 · 15/06/2018 22:49

And the penis is actually multi functional so they're food for many things.

Men deserve as much privacy and dignity in toilets as women and that means people of the opposite sex not going in there unless a major emergency and then not apologising when someone called them out on it.
In Ops case it was an emergency so she can be excused.

siwel123 · 15/06/2018 22:51

Good. Not food.

Quimby · 15/06/2018 22:51

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Quimby · 15/06/2018 22:52

*Vaginas

Cleanermaidcook · 15/06/2018 23:03

As someone with continance problems i think yabu. You could have used the access able toilet, they are available at Gatwick airport and near the other toilets.
Regardles of wether you believe you were not a threat the gentleman had a right to privacy and dignity in a space that was allocated for men only.

JacquesHammer · 15/06/2018 23:09

Oh come on, they're vile and only good for one thing

How unpleasantly crass

busybarbara · 15/06/2018 23:50

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