To think that some women go on and on about the obesity crisis and weight

[Tobythecat]

Just to be smug about their healthy eating and slimness?

I have noticed it on here a lot and real life, even a good friend of mine posted something on facebook about it and i was disappointed with her for being so judgemental.

People who fat shame and go on about the obesity crisis and talk about overweight peoples eating habits dont seem to think that these individuals likely have binge eating disorders and bullimia.

I have had a binge eating problem since i was a child and used to starve myself. Im overweight and trying to lose it but im sick of some smug women who try to make people like me ashamed of our weight issues.

A good friend of mine just posted about a quote from the bible about obesity and gluttony. A lot of her friends are carrying weight and i just felt like she posted it to feel smug and superior. Shes always going on about how she used to make herself sick and talks about how she only eats salad and healthy stuff, whilst offering me a biscuit.

AIBU to think that a lot of women do this as a way to feel superior?

Just buy a smaller size. If they do one - and I've seen that kind of post on MN too: everything in the shops is just so BIG. Tiny tiny me.
That's the reality for some women.
I've gained over a stone and am still taking the same dress size I was 10 years ago. With sizes getting bigger I can take an XS in some shops now. I'm not particularly small. There are many women who are much slimmer and petite than me.

It's not polite to make negative comments about someone being overweight. Equally it's not ok for people to mock people who are smaller and be disparaging.

People who fat shame and go on about the obesity crisis and talk about overweight peoples eating habits dont seem to think that these individuals likely have binge eating disorders and bullimia.

I refuse to believe that the majority of obese people I see on my local high street have bulimia/a binge eating disorder.

You see the same people on obesity threads who also love posting fake concern for SAHMs. Really they are just people who love a good old sneer and see both as an easy target.

You can be fat and healthy just as you can be short and healthy or live in a city and healthy. They're not mutually exclusive.

I'm thin. I'm buying smaller sizes now. There's no need to smug on about it. I'm mocking that.

Hilda I am with you! I get called all sorts of horrible things too for being underweight. I still have huge empathy for overweight friends who find losing or maintaining weight loss a real struggle.

A lot of ingrained sexism here...............when some of you talk about vanity sizing you mention sizes 6 8 12 whatever..............

because you are talking about the weight of OTHER WOMEN. But NEVER other MEN .

What this is really about is competing with other women so you feel better about yourselves.

If it was REALLY about health overweight men would get mentioned on these threads just as much.

But they dont If they did mens clothes measurements would be discussed just as much as womens clothes sizes are.

But they arent because overweight men never get mentioned. Which proves that a lot of these threads are concern trolling dusted with ingrained sexism and garnished with ingrained misogyny.

Its NOTHING to do with health If it was.......overweight men would be mentioned just as much.

Yes Helena.

Someone called it "just greedyness" the other day. It' like saying alcoholics just like the taste of wine too much. I think it is smugness, it makes them feel like they did something really clever by not getting fat.

Quite right Helena

I refuse to believe that the majority of obese people I see on my local high street have bulimia/a binge eating disorder.

Obesity is an eating disorder. Or do you think people choose to make themselves too fat to buy clothes, seriously at risk of cancer, heart disease and dying young because they just don't care about the humiliation that comes with obesity?

You must understand that doesn't make sense surely

We are our own worst enemy, we truly are

A person who is a stone overweight might just be a bit greedy. A person who is morbidly obese has lost control and there is a high correlation between past history of sexual abuse and obesity as well. It is a mental disorder, no doubt about it.

they did something really clever by not getting fat
Yes, and that therefore they are morally superior to overweight people.

We are our own worst enemy, we truly are

Nah, that's still men until women do 97% more sexual assault but this is still pretty shit too.

talks about how she only eats salad and healthy stuff, whilst offering me a biscuit

sounds like she's trying to sabotage your health. Not sure I'd still consider such a person my friend.

A lot of ingrained sexism here...............when some of you talk about vanity sizing you mention sizes 6 8 12 whatever

because you are talking about the weight of OTHER WOMEN. But NEVER other MEN

Nope! No sexism.
Mens trousers are measured in inches and so vanity sizing is much less of a problem. The majority of posters on here are women so they are speaking on their experiance of vanity sizing using sizes they wear.

Nice try upside Even if you take clothes sizes out of the equation overweight men are still never mentioned when the subject is meant to be HEALTH.

So it IS sexism

Frosty in the grand scheme of things 2 stones overweight is very little compared to the crisis . I was 2 stone heavier but fit (ish!)
It was diet that lost weight not exercise

I think it’s kinda dangerous to see it this way.

Two stone overweight is two stone above the very maximum weight within BMI guidelines, above that it where you start to veer into having a negative impact on your health category.

I’m tall 5ft 9 and recently hit the very top of the safe BMI guidelines. It shocked me massively into doing something about it, but the point is that even a pound within ‘healthy BMI’ I looked and felt fat. I was too wide, bloated, had a tummy roll or three when I sat down, my thighs were wide. I was heavy.

That was at a healthy BMI. Two more stone, even at a tall height, would have been massive. Two stone, 28lbs, is a LOT of weight. Two extra stone to someone on the very verge of being underweight on the BMI would probably be okay, two stone above the very max is a very big deal and not nothing at all!

We have this attitude that because some people are morbidly obese, being obese isn’t so bad. Because many people are obese, being overweight isn’t that bad. It’s dangerous.

HelenaDove

If we are talking about an individual then there are more women on this site, more women to talk about, more need to talk about vanity sizing only in terms of womens sizing. Talking generally about obesity then sex is never mentioned as it is irrelevant. Can you give me another example besides when vanity sizing is being discussed on mn (which I have explained) where people only talk about overweight women being a problem?

upsideup Are you new?

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Mens sizing is also more consistent. DH takes the same size in almost every shop. If he puts a bit of weight on he goes up a waist size, if he loses it then he drops.

I've gained over a stone and am apparently the same dress size. Clearly I'm not the same size.

And as for health. Damn right it's men and women. Being overweight and obese carry risk regardless of your genitals.

Equally, men don't whine to clothing companies if they can't wear clothes in the number they want to be. Men don't push clothing companies to redraw their sizes because they want a smaller number in their clothes. Men don't have an endless list of euphemisms for fat. You don't see size 28 men saying they love their curves. You don't see men saying the existence of an XS promotes anorexia.

The health issues are an issue regardless of sex.
The wider debate around weight and sizing does tend to be female focussed because it's women who tend to spend half their life whining over weight and size and what number they want in their clothes.

Heres a good example of how the hatred for overweight women continues even AFTER they have lost the weight.

WARNING..................its one of the nastiest threads ive ever seen on here and again proves its nothing to do with health.

If it was there wouldnt have been so many people lining up to give a woman who had lost 20 stone a verbal kicking and saying how it was tough shit that she had loose skin that leaves her at risk of sepsis ...................and ppl claim its about health?

What absolute bollocks.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3205882-To-think-that-s-it-s-cheeky-as-fuck-to-expect-other-people-to-fund-your-skin-removal-surgery

"Equally, men don't whine to clothing companies"

Move along there is no misogyny.................nope nothing to see here.