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To have called the Police on DD (13)

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MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 13:39

Because I feel like the worst Mum in the world right now.

Back story is that DD is generally good kid;
she does well at and enjoys schoool, predicted great GCSE results, never been in trouble with school or Police, never been in a fight etc. No issues at home, normal family and household. Can be rude, can answer back, the odd tantrum- normal teenage stuff I guess.

Three weeks ago DD missed school for the first time ever. I was informed and she was spoken to and had her iPhone and internet access removed for a week. She didn’t seem bothered really and couldn’t give any real reason for it. I wasn’t too angry and as it was first time occurance (and I admit I did the same a few times when I was a teenager) we decided to draw a line as long as it didnt happen again.

She then started being rude at home, cheeky, smart arse snippy comments etc. Then a week later she went out for a few hours one afternoon and didn’t get back home until Midnight. I was worried sick, had reported her missing to Police- the works. When she strolled back in she wasn’t phased or upset but she seemed apologetic, she’d been at the park with a friend she knows from her old school. This girl’s parents have told me she has been in trouble before, can be violent, causes lots of issues at home, has a Social Worker due to the above. I told her she is not meet her again. Phone, console, iPad etc all removed for two weeks as consequence for the above.

All seemed fine, she was happy and being good and all was fine at home. Then she walked out and didn’t come home for 4 days. 4 days!!! It was the worst 4 days of my life. She isn’t “streetwise” or tough at all and I was out of my mind with worry that she would be found dead in a gutter somewhere. Reported to Police as missing, they made enquiries whilst we hunted everywhere and spoke to every person she knows.

She was eventually found with this same other girl. I went to bring her home and she refused. She started telling me I had no right to force her home, she wanted a Social Worker, I can’t “lay hands” on her etc. Sounded like a completely different child. I called Social Services and begged for some help, they eventually got someone to speak to her and told her she goes home immediately or into care. She came home but has been vile and rude and swearing and awful since (3 days). After spending time with this other girl she now thinks she knows her “rights” thinks she’s untouchable and that she’s the boss and can do as she likes. I’m beyond mortified and so embarrassed and of course baffled by this sudden change.

I’ve been in contact with Children’s Services and asked for some help perhaps with counselling for her and maybe someone to meet with us as a family
to help facilitate/mediate a discussion as to what is wrong and how we can move forward.

Friday night she had a huge tantrum like I’ve never seen before, screaming, banging, shouting and trashing the house room by room. She was like a crazed animal, I couldnt stop her and when she broke some glass all over the spare room I was concerned for her and her own safety. So I called the Police. They arrived and restrained her and calmed her down. She wasn’t rude or aggressive to them and they said that was very unusual. They gave me the option for them to leave and let it go or take her to the Police Station for interview and processing which would take a few hours. I chose the latter. It was horrible and I was really upset but I couldn’t let her get away with it. I needed her to realise she can’t do as she likes and isn’t in charge, as her and this other girl seem to think. She spent 6 hours at the police station before being dropped back. She hasn’t been charged of course, she won’t get any sort of record or anything even similar but she got a big shock and a good talking down and the Police said she seemed genuinely remorseful after a few hours in a cell. She came home and hasn’t tried to run away again but hasn’t spoken to me since (this was Friday) and has spent the weekend in her room.

Was IBU? Would you have done the same? I feel guilty but equally I feel I couldn’t let her do this without consequences as she’d have no deterrent not to do it again.

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kaytee87 · 10/06/2018 19:04

Oh op I don't know what I would have done at all. What a horrible situation for you Thanks I hope she settles down soon.

Ivegotfamilyandidrinkcupsoftea · 10/06/2018 19:05

I think you did the right thing op

I went off the rails from 14-19. Came down to earth with a bump when fell pregnant.

Looking back now i do think part of my issues was an absent parent but i didnt know that at the time.

Also, all my friends parents thought i was the bad penny. No one was meant to be with me. In fact they were mainly as bad as i was i was just a bit more brazen about it Blush not saying this is the case with your dd but often parents will pass the blame on to a peer

MissMogwai · 10/06/2018 19:08

You definitely did the right thing. I have been through very similar with my own daughter, including going missing for days at a time. I won't go in to details but she and we have been through a very, very tough time as a family. Luckily we are on the other side now and moving forward.

I would advise searching her room for any old phones or iPods you might have forgotten about.

Getting in touch with school, EWO etc is a good idea. Ask social services to refer you to Early Intervention or barnados as they can offer some support (if you can get it)

It's very difficult but try to keep communication open as much as you can.

I really feel for you as I have been there many times. Look after yourself in all this.

Carycach100 · 10/06/2018 19:10

A thing that puzzles me , OP, and I am asking this genuinely trying to understand and not trying to be pick holes
your dd had gone missing the time before and it turmed out she had been with this undesireable friend, why did it take 4 days to find her there? Surely that would have been the first place you thought to look.So did you look there and the parents told you that there daughter had gone awol too?

Mix56 · 10/06/2018 19:11

She went for the new school interview.
It would seem there is something very wrong at her present school.

Where did she sleep ??? wherever it was, there is a huge probability there were drugs IME

MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 19:14

Carycach. They were both missing together. The Mother had my address and popped by and asked if my DD was missing too and we figured they were together. They eventually showed up back at their house 5 days later.

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GinandGingerBeer · 10/06/2018 19:15

How very odd that she went for the school interview whilst being in rebel mode.
She really wants that place doesn't she?
I do hope you get to the bottom of it OP.

CollyWombles · 10/06/2018 19:16

It's difficult but on the whole, though I totally get why you did it, I think YWBU.

To explain, I think this very sudden change to such extreme behaviour must definitely have a cause and if so, depending on what it is, knowing you let the police take her away could have scared her off being able to tell you what it is.

Like I said, I really do understand you were showing her consequences and I'm in no way trying to suggest poor parenting. I have a 13 year old and generally she is lovely, I'd be beside myself if her behaviour suddenly changed like that. I hope you and your DD manage to get this sorted x

MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 19:17

It IS seriously odd that she attended the interview isn’t it. She did really want the place. She’s now said she won’t go there but I’m ignoring that whilst she calms down; we have a week or so to deal with that and accept or decline that place and there’s more pressing issues to solve and discuss first.

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DragonMummy1418 · 10/06/2018 19:19

Wow that's amazingly weird about the interview!
But yes definitely get her into a new school (is the other girl at the old school?) the choice is yours, she is a child after all.

DragonMummy1418 · 10/06/2018 19:20

That could show there is something wrong with her current school, with her making such an effort to get transferred! 😬

QuackPorridgeBacon · 10/06/2018 19:20

I think that may show she has a lot of issues at school. Maybe once she is into the new school things will settle down.

CollyWombles · 10/06/2018 19:25

I'd also add that her again sudden change of behaviour with the police to polite and compliant, makes me think whatever is going on, she doesn't want them involved. I hope that makes sense and I haven't caused any offense.

beltanewalk · 10/06/2018 19:25

I think you did the right thing OP. I know these things are terribly hard but I went through an almost identical scenario with my daughter when she was 14. She also went missing, luckily the police found her after a day but I felt like the worst parent in the world for a very long time.

On a positive note, it was a phase and it passed. Almost to the day she turned 18 she changed completely and became a nice human being again, almost like the Harry Enfield character Kevin but in reverse.

In the meantime it had been a long, hard ride but we came out of the other side. Flowers

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/06/2018 19:27

whilst ransacking the house in her rage she did all the bedrooms except her little sister’s (she’s 4 and wasn’t home but would have been very upset) and also didn’t touch any of her toys in the lounge or kitchen areas.

I’ve since had an email from the school to say she turned up to the interview herself and did wonderfully and they’ve offered her a place from September.

Sounds to me like your DD is pretty awesome Smile I really hope you manage to get through to her, she sounds like at heart she is a good kid, with some difficult stuff going on at the moment.

DailyMailFail101 · 10/06/2018 19:28

If at all possible I would be considering moving house at least a few hours drive away!

CaffeineAndCrochet · 10/06/2018 19:31

What set off the tantrum on Friday, can I ask?

Also wondering about the cadets group as it's a recent thing. Could something be happening there that's bothering her?

Does she still have to see the person who slapped her? Was it someone she knew?

QueenoftheNights · 10/06/2018 19:31

so where did the 2 of them hang out when they went missing for 5 days?

Have I missed that bit?

Were they with older teens? Could something have happened then? Rape, abuse, drugs?

You cannot, really cannot 'ban' her from seeing other people unless you keep her under lock and key. She will lie if she wants to see them ( I know, I did, though it was always boys my parents disapproved of.)

Her tantrum seems like a cry for help especially if she got to school by herself for the interview- how did she have clean clothes? Was the running away planned? Did she take clean clothes with her for it?

devoncreamtea · 10/06/2018 19:35

Try CAMHS. You can make a referral as a parent, have a look at their website. Out of character behaviour and running away etc should fall under their remit I would think. Flowers

MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 19:37

It’sallgoingtobefine. Thanks! She is pretty awesome! Bloody stubborn and head strong but she’s such a good girl usually. I had an hour chat with a lovely SW and she also couldn’t believe she’d attended the interview. She actually laughed out loud. She’s debriefed the other girl (she’s her social worker) and said she can reassure me that she’s pretty confident that they didn’t get up to anything too awful, travelling about on buses and trains, staying with various school friends and their parents and possibly smoking cigarettes but of course we don’t know for certain what happened and I haven’t been able to discuss it with DD yet.

Caffeine. Nothing set it off as such. She hasn’t been home for nearly a week. Went to collect her and she got in the car with no protest. Got home and I took her bags and phone and emptied her pockets etc. All ok. She went upstairs and lay down and then about ten mins later she was upset and then kicked off.

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MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 19:39

Camhs is on my list for a call tomorrow Devon. A long wait is assume but I’ll find a private counseller hopefully until we can be seen by Camhs

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loopylass13 · 10/06/2018 19:44

This could be normal rebellion but it sounds like their could be a serious trigger too, would look out for any signs of abuse - whether being bullied or whether anyone might have been inappropriate with her - not trying to scare you. I know a girl who went off the deep end as a teen (without obvious explanation from her parents point of view) after being raped. Not likely anything like this has happened to your daughter but sounds like something has, to drastically change there is a cause.

Monkee4 · 10/06/2018 19:46

MrsJonSno that just made me cry when i ready how your daughter went to the new school interview. She is so desperate to go there - bless her how brave and mature of her really.
She must be very unhappy at school - bullying incident related very possibly. I know some kids cope with lots of horrible bullying incidents but I know if I was your daughter's age and someone slapped me it would have affected me very badly. It's not just the act it's the hate that is behind it that is very hard to deal with at that age (or any age). She is very young still and needs all the help you can give her which it sounds like you are doing. Good luck x

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 10/06/2018 19:47

I agree with a PP who said to turn detective on her

Maybe she has been sexually abused ? If she is mixing with this other child and out and abiut Sad

Change tactics - keep her close and get very worried as this sounds like
Something might have happened to her possibly

Monkee4 · 10/06/2018 19:50

sorry I missed that she now says she doesn't want to go to the new school but as you said you are giving her time to calm down and it may just be fear of the unknown - worrying there may be someone there who will be horrible to her
I know when I was considering moving my daughter (13) people would tell me horror stories about every school in the area - and it is not a bad area! Its so hard to make those decisions but you sound like you have everything covered

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