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To have called the Police on DD (13)

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MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 13:39

Because I feel like the worst Mum in the world right now.

Back story is that DD is generally good kid;
she does well at and enjoys schoool, predicted great GCSE results, never been in trouble with school or Police, never been in a fight etc. No issues at home, normal family and household. Can be rude, can answer back, the odd tantrum- normal teenage stuff I guess.

Three weeks ago DD missed school for the first time ever. I was informed and she was spoken to and had her iPhone and internet access removed for a week. She didn’t seem bothered really and couldn’t give any real reason for it. I wasn’t too angry and as it was first time occurance (and I admit I did the same a few times when I was a teenager) we decided to draw a line as long as it didnt happen again.

She then started being rude at home, cheeky, smart arse snippy comments etc. Then a week later she went out for a few hours one afternoon and didn’t get back home until Midnight. I was worried sick, had reported her missing to Police- the works. When she strolled back in she wasn’t phased or upset but she seemed apologetic, she’d been at the park with a friend she knows from her old school. This girl’s parents have told me she has been in trouble before, can be violent, causes lots of issues at home, has a Social Worker due to the above. I told her she is not meet her again. Phone, console, iPad etc all removed for two weeks as consequence for the above.

All seemed fine, she was happy and being good and all was fine at home. Then she walked out and didn’t come home for 4 days. 4 days!!! It was the worst 4 days of my life. She isn’t “streetwise” or tough at all and I was out of my mind with worry that she would be found dead in a gutter somewhere. Reported to Police as missing, they made enquiries whilst we hunted everywhere and spoke to every person she knows.

She was eventually found with this same other girl. I went to bring her home and she refused. She started telling me I had no right to force her home, she wanted a Social Worker, I can’t “lay hands” on her etc. Sounded like a completely different child. I called Social Services and begged for some help, they eventually got someone to speak to her and told her she goes home immediately or into care. She came home but has been vile and rude and swearing and awful since (3 days). After spending time with this other girl she now thinks she knows her “rights” thinks she’s untouchable and that she’s the boss and can do as she likes. I’m beyond mortified and so embarrassed and of course baffled by this sudden change.

I’ve been in contact with Children’s Services and asked for some help perhaps with counselling for her and maybe someone to meet with us as a family
to help facilitate/mediate a discussion as to what is wrong and how we can move forward.

Friday night she had a huge tantrum like I’ve never seen before, screaming, banging, shouting and trashing the house room by room. She was like a crazed animal, I couldnt stop her and when she broke some glass all over the spare room I was concerned for her and her own safety. So I called the Police. They arrived and restrained her and calmed her down. She wasn’t rude or aggressive to them and they said that was very unusual. They gave me the option for them to leave and let it go or take her to the Police Station for interview and processing which would take a few hours. I chose the latter. It was horrible and I was really upset but I couldn’t let her get away with it. I needed her to realise she can’t do as she likes and isn’t in charge, as her and this other girl seem to think. She spent 6 hours at the police station before being dropped back. She hasn’t been charged of course, she won’t get any sort of record or anything even similar but she got a big shock and a good talking down and the Police said she seemed genuinely remorseful after a few hours in a cell. She came home and hasn’t tried to run away again but hasn’t spoken to me since (this was Friday) and has spent the weekend in her room.

Was IBU? Would you have done the same? I feel guilty but equally I feel I couldn’t let her do this without consequences as she’d have no deterrent not to do it again.

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FATEdestiny · 10/06/2018 14:08

What has happened to her usual set of friends? The ones she had before this sudden change.

I would focus on some serious friendship-reaffirming (appropriate friendships that is). Arrange a trip to a trampoline park, have a group sleepover, take them sell swimming. That short of thing over several weekends.

Instead of taking the negative stance that 'this friendship is toxic so I will stop you having a social life', I would change to 'these are positive friendships which I will support you in developing'

SusanneLinder · 10/06/2018 14:09

I think you did the right thing. I also wonder if something has happened to her that she is unwilling to disclose yet?
Have you taken her to your GP or spoken to a Guidance teacher at school?

Dontfuckingsaycheese · 10/06/2018 14:09

@ MrsJonSno

This could happen to any one of us. :-(

I struggle with DS (15).

What I would do is either:
1/ Take him away. Love bombing. Sounds lame but when he's away from home he's a completely different person. He struggles to come off his tech but away somewhere works. Like if we go to Butlins - no chance of tech in the pool!! We re-connect and I see the real him again. We have a real laugh.
2/ I'm on my own. My sister helps rarely but he does respect her. When we had a real breakdown a few weeks ago he went to spend a few days with her. Bedtimes and getting up are our problem - so much that he has missed A LOT of school. I wanted him to see other people going to bed and getting up in the morning. Maybe worked a bit! But at least it defused the current situation.

MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 14:10

We have a Social Worker visiting next week. I never thought I’d say that. I’m trying to see it as a positive thing thoug whilst worrying my every decision and action will be questioned.

The consequences are as much for her own good at the moment as they are a punishment. No phone or social media means she cant contact this other girl. I don’t think she’s to blame, my daughter is smart and switched on and capable of saying no. As another poster said; I think she’s just the catalyst. It’s just all so sudden, we were planning a cinema/lunch day and a family trip to the seaside two weeks ago.

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Dontfuckingsaycheese · 10/06/2018 14:10

We often go to London to for a weekend - one night in a youth hostel - quite cheap.

bionicnemonic · 10/06/2018 14:11

Could you sign her up for some after school activities where you take and collect her, to keep her busy and giver her exercise and positive things to do but then she has to stay in on other evenings (to do her school work) so you are tightening control of where she is without actually saying she’s grounded.
I agree with the love bombing...so you’re baking together etc so she’s busy all the time
I think you’ve been very brave and it must have been hell for you when she went missing.

MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 14:12

How strange dontfuckingsaycheese! I was just looking at Butlins! My youngest would love the cheesy entertainment and my eldest (who I’m posting about) would like the huge pools.

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RoseWhiteTips · 10/06/2018 14:13

Puberty can result in difficult behaviour like this. Perhaps it’s connected to that.

MrsJonSno · 10/06/2018 14:14

Thanks bionic. I’ve actually recently signed her up for a local cadets group which takes some encouragement (because as a teen she’d rather sit in the garden or play consoles) but she likes it when she’s there. I’m going to tell her she can still go whilst grounded as it’s good for her socially.

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Where2live · 10/06/2018 14:15

Wow, you poor thing.

What has got in to her! You made a difficult parenting decision but you could have five difficult years ahead of you if you let her call the shots and trash the house. I think she will push back less knowing that you're not going to be dictated to by her powerful rages.

CrustyCob · 10/06/2018 14:16

You sound a great Mum. You did the right thing, in my view, and it was a really tough thing to do.

To be missing for four days like that, something is not right at all.
You have acted with courage and love. Flowers

Dontfuckingsaycheese · 10/06/2018 14:18

Because it's just me and ds we have one room. It used to be a nightmare when he was younger (!!) being trapped in a small space with him but now he's older it works. We are forced together and we do things that we don't do at home like play cards and joke - I had tears telling him a ridiculously juvenile joke!! Even if you go as a family there'd still be opportunities for one-on-ones. Butlins is great for kids - everything's there. It's not everyone's cup of tea - it does attract a certain "type" but there are really good bits too! We love the pools.

ghostyslovesheets · 10/06/2018 14:18

Mixing with a classmate who has a history of disruptive behaviour, going missing - this would concern me from a CSE point of view - please do ask SS about this

where are they going when they go missing?

ghostyslovesheets · 10/06/2018 14:19

oh and to add - you are being a brilliant mum by wanting to support her - teenagers are very difficult at times

CuppaTeaAndAJammieDodger · 10/06/2018 14:25

I don’t think there’s necessarily something else going on - the changes that take place during puberty in a child’s brain are more than enough to explain her behaviour, especially adding the influence of this other girl into the mix.

You absolutely did the right thing - and this behaviour needs addressing and your DD needs some form of help before her behaviour causes damage (relationships/criminal record/property etc.) that can’t be undone.

Penfold007 · 10/06/2018 14:27

My immediate gut reaction is that she is being groomed. You need to check her phone, browsing history and check her room. What sanctions are currently in place for her and is she going to school tomorrow? Must be terrible for you.

Witchend · 10/06/2018 14:31

Sorry, but this is ticking the box for grooming to me. Have you seen her internet history etc?

HeebieJeebies456 · 10/06/2018 14:32

Friday night she had a huge tantrum like I’ve never seen before, screaming, banging, shouting and trashing the house room by room. She was like a crazed animal, I couldnt stop her and when she broke some glass all over the spare room I was concerned for her and her own safety

She could have been using drugs during the times she was with the other girl-esp when she went missing for 4 days.
Her violence could be a symptom of that?

likelyLilac · 10/06/2018 14:33

when I was 7 I was abused by a man. It never affected my behavior at the time as I was too young to really understand it but old enough to feel pressure to not act up. When I was 14 my teacher began to groom me, all of a sudden I was out of control because it brought all those experiences back but now I had a better understanding of what he did and how it hurt me. I hadn't forgotten about the abuse before then just not thought of it properly.
I'm not saying your daughters been abused, but maybe when she was hurt before she hadn't dealt truly with her feeling and something has triggered her to re experience them but now she is in the throws of puberty (I know it was only a few months ago but puberty can hit hard and fast) so her reaction is worse. Or maybe there is something going on, I don't know.
I can see however you are doing your best and that you have done nothing wrong.

DaphneduM · 10/06/2018 14:34

So sorry you've been going through this. Having a teenage girl is a nightmare at times, I speak from experience. You totally did the right thing - an impartial talk from the Police hopefully made her see sense. I wouldn't worry too much about her withdrawing into her room. However you might consider what you are going to do about her going to school tomorrow, in case she is tempted to bunk off? You have my sympathy - if most parents are totally honest we've all had worrying times with our teens - however they usually come through all the angst unscathed. Well done for taking definitive action.

bopeepsheep · 10/06/2018 14:37

I work with vulnerable teenagers.
Has she got a boyfriend? Anyone new on the horizon other than this girl? This is a common behaviour pattern for young women/girls who have been targeted by older men (has she been in take aways/arcades/taxi ranks/hanging out at the precinct etc?). A common tack is one girl has an older 'bf' and is encouraged to bring other girls into the fold. The parents are demonised as controlling and the young women often have themselves put into care.
Your DDs tantrum is a classic symptom of withdrawal from something she craves - it may be drugs or attention from someone.

I don't want to scare you at all but I would carefully go thru her social media and note all the comments and look for patterns. I would also have some candid discussions about consent and appropriate dating - age gaps etc.

I'm so sorry you are going thru this, you are not alone.

Moleskinediary · 10/06/2018 14:37

take her to the Police Station for interview and processing which would take a few hours

What was she processed for?
Did she get a caution?

Doolly067 · 10/06/2018 14:38

Sounds like her friend is totally controlling her, id also be concerned about drug abuse and grooming if I'm honest. you done the right thing btw.

Missingstreetlife · 10/06/2018 14:40

Don't think police as discipline v useful, effect will wear off, like any punishment. Always think why you are trying to control her, when is it needed. Boundaries good, punishment just makes them resentful, consequences should fit the 'crime'. You need to call them if she is missing or at risk
Something is going on, does she eat properly, self harm?
Try to spend some time doing something with her, let her speak, really listen to how it is for her. Have your cinema day, go to the beach, these can be bonding, you have already taken her technology, that is appropriate, no need to ramp up the bad stuff. It's hard work but they do grow out of it. Good luck

ToadsforJustice · 10/06/2018 14:41

Yep - I agree - signs of grooming. Does the girl she is friendly with have a brother? Also OP, your DD will most certainly have a record with the police now. There will be processed information, a report made to multiple agencies. This information will be kept for a minimum of 10 years and is disclosable on a DBS check.

Please check her internet history.

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