I have gone very very wrong somewhere with DD.

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I am mortified. Dd is 14. Last year I got her and ds1 (15) an iPhone SE each, which happened to be the same phone I had.

She broke hers within a month. I paid for it to be repaired and she broke it again (dropped it both times).

DH upgraded his android phone so she was given his old handset (Samsung galaxy). She has done nothing but moan about it really, the camera is ‘shit’, she can’t download stuff she wants, it’s not an iPhone. We have pulled her up on this every time btw.

I have upgraded my phone and the new one (iPhone 8) arrived this morning. DD was hovering wanting to know what the parcel was and I said, ooh, you’ll be happy because this means you’ll have an iPhone again. She rapidly cycled through thinking I meant the new phone was for her, to realising I meant she could have my old one, to hysterical tears and then utter rage at me.

She has stamped her way around the house yelling that I need to apologise to her because I led her to believe she was getting a new iPhone, that it’s not fair I get a brand new phone and she gets my cast offs, that I’m out of order for getting myself a new phone when mine still works and that she deserves a new one before me.

I just don’t know where to go from here. Obviously she isn’t now getting my ‘old’ phone. I am disgusted by her attitude but I don’t know how to fix this. DH wants to take her phone away entirely, and her laptop, camera, tv etc. She is totally spoilt and entitled and I don’t really know what to do. For context ds1 and ds2 (6) have all the same mod cons but a totally different attitude.

Any suggestions on how to deal with this? She’s been sent to her room but is still raging that I need to apologise to her for ‘leading her on’ thinking she was getting a new iPhone 8.

Has anyone suggested transportation to Australia yet?

A 14-year-old is not a millennial nor who is anyone currently a teenager even though people seem to keep thinking the two are the same thing. Millennials are in their 20s and 30s, some getting close to 40. If you're hiring a 35-year-old, you're hiring a millennial, if you're hiring someone just out of A-levels, you're not.

Very true. In fact, given shitholiday2018 was a teenager in the 90s she herself could be a millennial.

Blimey bashun keep your hair on

The 14 year olds making money on my estate are dealing drugs good point

Perhaps the ops dd could put some leaflets through with a list of class As. She could order them off the dark web. Entrepreneurial!

Genuinely curious to know. Is that not a thing any more?

You can't work for longer than two hours on a weekday (one hour in many place). On Saturdays the maximum is five hours. and 2 on a Sunday. Therefore unless there are loads of jobs the 16 year olds and over get them.

kissthealderman
When I was a teen in the 1970s it was easy to get a part time job from 13 onwards. Now it's not.
Mine are now over 18.
I know of not one teen who managed to find part time work before 16.
Most newsagents don't deliver and those that do use adults.
We live rurally and both of mine got a little job at 16 when they were at sixth form. We have no public transport so I had to take them to and fro but I thought it worthwhile for the experience. It cost more in my time and petrol than they were paid.

Millennials are born between 1981 and 1990 aren't they?

Ok gretol, just for you, lol😘

Which years are children born to be a millennial?
I have sons born in first half of the eighties and youngest in 1990.
Their ages are 35, 34, 28.

Bashun bring back National Service, right?

You and shitholiday should go for a drink sometime.

Laugh a minute.

I wonder why rates of self harm and mental health issues in teens are soaring if they apparently have it so easy

On the surface, sure they have many of the luxuries like iPhones and lap tops that us oldies didn’t have but do they really have a better life? Personally, seeing what my DCs experience as teens today I really wouldn’t want to be in their shoes.

I don't think you need to have such a melodramatic response. Just stick to your guns. leave her alone to get used to the situation. She has DH's old phone. She can get used to it. Do not pay to have her things repaired any more.

aha, found this on google describing the word millenial when used as a noun.

a person reaching young adulthood in the early 21st century.
"the industry brims with theories on what makes millennials tick"

Do we now argue about what young adulthood is and which years are the early part of the 21st century.

Was anyone else taught in grammar that numbers should always be written as full words? I try and keep to this but don't always as it can be quite long winded.

I think today's teens are called the iGen.

This too?

Millennial
Millennial is an identity given to a broadly and vaguely defined group of people. There are two wings of "Millennial" that are often at odds with each other: Generation Y (people born between 1981-1991) and Generation Z (born between 1991-2001). People of Generation Y often have characteristics similar to Generation X, which is why Generation Z will confuse Generation Y with Generation X and then claim to be the generation that represents "MIllennial," when in fact, birth years for Millennial range from about 1981-2001, just as the birth-years for Baby Boomers ranged from 1946-1964.
Both Generation Y and Generation Z can be called "Millennials," with the primary difference between the two being technology. Generation Y grew-up on personal computers, cell phones, and video game systems, while Generation Z has grown up on tablets, smartphones, and apps. Yet, the common ground between both generations is that both have been transforming and altering communication and identity--not just in the United States but globally.

Back in my day, when I were a teen, we didn't have all these gadgets and whatnot. That was because it was fucking 1984. We still clamoured to get hold of Sony Walkmans.

Loved my Walkman expat - hey, we chatted years ago; I changed name and disappeared from MN for years. Clue: I had v long legs!

Do they really need a label and to be generalised as snowflakes or entitled or lazy? Millennials, Gen X,Y,Z - they are just kids growing up!

BackinTime I think the word teenager was even invented to reflect this difficult transitional phase?

So the label really means nothing

How are things with your daughter now OP?
Here's hoping that you came to a peaceful conclusion.

Tell her to go and work for what she wants if she's not happy with what you give her!
14 is a horrible age for parents to survive! I remember it, both for me (I was a brat, but I worked!) and my son (a bit of a chip of the ol' block!).
Don't worry she'll get over it... with time and luck, but don't let her get away with hell, or make your life hell either. In the long run it's not a good thing.

Backintime, I reckon it is because some have it so easy as teens while others have nothing, and when REAL LIFE hits them they have no real future to look too, as some of us had... I flitted from one job to another in the late 70's but life doesn't offer those same chances now.
And also it's something of a fashion to be depressed or suicidal.
Not that it makes the end result any more acceptable! We messed up the world our kids live in, didn't we?

*@starlyte*I don’t believe it’s simply the fashion to be depressed or suicidal these days. I think they are under more pressure than ever before to be pretty, slim, clever, talented and have all the right clothes and gadgets thanks to peer pressure and social media. They are reminded on a daily basis through social media that they are not measuring up by not having as much cool stuff or by not having as much fun as their peers. When I was a teenager you had no idea what others were up to at weekends and you didn’t see pictures of their shopping ‘haul’ or cool party posted online.

They are also exposed to things like porn and sexting at a young age and think that this is how relationships work. All of this at a time when you are having to deal with hormones and all the other issues that come with being a teen. I was pretty tough but I think I would struggle to deal with being a teen in today’s world.

BackinTime everything you just said. Also school pressure is way more these days - particularly the new GCSE curriculum and exam structure.