To be pissed off at the fever tree take over

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Been on the Atkins for 6 weeks and lost lots of weight. Saturday was my birthday and so I decided to treat myself to a gin and slim - no carbs! Went to the bar and was given a gin and fever tree refreshingly light so I decided to check the label. 4g of carbs - that's a third of my daily allowance. I asked for another slimline tonic - anything all the others have 0 calories and 0 carbs but no - only fever tree. It's not a slimline tonic people scrap the fever tree - you need to stock something else

I can taste the difference @Bettyfood

I’ve done it many times when giving the side eye to friends who have slimline tonic

If you’re noting the grams in tonic water then that’s a diet too far.

Especially as the recommended daily allowances are a bit of a nonsense anyway.

I defy anyone to blind taste the difference between different gins and tonics when they are mixed. Hipster ponciness, much of it

Have you ever actually tried more then one brand of either? Hendricks tastes completely different to Tanqueray which taste completely different to Bombay Saphire which couldn’t be more different to Cotswolds...the list is bloody endless and that’s before you start trying different tonics which also, all taste different.

Your comment is essentially like saying all wine tastes the same

I thought the super-low carb phase of the Atkins only lasted for the first couple of weeks?

I can’t believe how nasty some people are being to the OP regarding her choice of diet. Low carb is not a fad and it is the only way many diabetics manage to get control over their blood sugars.

To a diabetic on insulin the amount of carbs in something affects how much insulin they inject so,slimline tonic with 0 carbs would be the preferable drink. It’s not always just about weight loss.

Aye, well you will go on a stupid diet that cuts out entire food groups.

I totally agree with you OP!!!

I might be the only one it seems. For a start a low carb diet is neither a fad, nor dangerous and for those of us successfully losing weight doing low carb, it is a fantastic choice for our health.

Secondly Atkins did not die of heart disease - he tripped and fell and at his advanced age it led to complications.

And I had the same argument in a pub some years ago and I wrote to fever tree and asked them to make it clear that their Slimline tonic was nothing but.

When you are trying to make good choices, the smallest things can really upset your day.

For people who are counting calories, this "slimline" tonic could send them 50 Cal's over their calorie count and when you're on 1200 for the day, that's significant. When they think it is zero Cal's - they may not even think to check.

For diabetics it could be disastrous. A few extra carbs can cause someone to misjudge their insulin intake.

Type 2 diabetics who are managing their carbs to control their disease need to watch every little bit.

To simply say this is an issue not worth bothering about misses the point of labelling. If the accepted view is that a Slimline or light labelled fizzy drink means no sugar - then any drink that does not stick to this should label it carefully to make that very clear.

And I agree - I want a choice in the pub: sugar, low sugar or no sugar....why is that so hard to understand?

I love Fevertree, never likes gin and tonic before it came along.

I don’t really rate gin, (whisky fan), but even I would admit that you can taste the difference between them. Probably because, (I think), there are flavourings added to the basic spirit. So, no two will taste exactly the same as they have different recipes*.

*I possibly am talking rubbish;

I'm glad places serve fever tree, as others have said I'd rather a tiny amount of carbs then artifical sweetners

though I do understand the need for sugar free for those who need it

so in my opinon there should be an option of both types (sorry this was over 3 messages)

YABU. The only mixers EVER made available to me as a type 1 diabetic are Diet Coke (bleugh) or slimline tonic.
So yes, I’m pissed off at the lack of sugar free mixers but I think I’m allowed to be and we’ll, you’re not!

Fever tree sends my blood sugars high so then I have to arse around injecting myself on a night out.

"For people who are counting calories, this "slimline" tonic could send them 50 Cal's over their calorie count and when you're on 1200 for the day, that's significant. When they think it is zero Cal's - they may not even think to check."

It's not called slimline & slimline is a bloody stupid name. It's 'light'. 'Light' is not 'zero', and if you're on 1200 calories and you've gone 50 calories over because of the tonic then you've had ingested 20% of your daily calories from gin, which seems like a pretty shitty sort of diet to me anyway.

It doesn’t matter what kind of weight loss diet you’re doing though, you’re going to have to account for the mixer instead of just the alcohol.... so yes, I think light is the wrong labelling tbh, it might be lighter than their standard tonic, but it’s not in line with other slimline tonics or diet mixers.

YABU. Don't expect pubs and restaurants to stock your favourite brand of tonic water.

I actually can't believe that people still think that low carb diets are a fad? A fad that has been used for more than 50 years to lose weight more successfully than any other diet type???

Why do you think the government is cracking down on sugar - because it is the worst type of carb! But all carbs turn into sugar once inside your body and are treated the same in terms of energy usage.

If you are cutting down on sugar, then you are already on a lower carb diet. Get your head around that. Is that a fad?

There’s no defined daily allowances which are actually proven. The reality will vary for an individual depending on what you’ve done for the day, how much exercise you have etc etc.

That’s why it’s difficult to get antsy about a few grams if it’s for weight loss.

Also Dr Atkins did have heart problems..... may not have been his cause of death but he had heart problems.

A fad that has been used for more than 50 years to lose weight more successfully than any other diet type

I thought that there was little difference between diets. Basically cutting out food will make you lose weight.

Cutting out a whole food group is nonsense - we need to eat a balanced diet and that includes carbs from vegetables.

The problem with sugar is that it is hidden in so many foods, making it difficult to know what we are eating. If we all cooked more from scratch we’d be in a much better healthy position.
Sadly many people cannot afford to because of low wages and little time. That’s a wider economic problem and the government’s approach will fail unless they tackle the wider issues.

YABVVU

All other tonics taste like sh*t.

Have a Sounds like you need one

Start drinking your gin neat

Give me artificial sweeteners over sugar any day of the week. People don’t seem to realise how dangerous it is as it’s ‘natural’.

There are other low carb diets except Atkins- not everyone who is cutting down on carbs is doing Atkins. People who are trying to reduce sugar in their diets are really reducing fructose, so a drink that is sweetened with fructose, stripped of all its nutritients and importantly, its Fibre, is not in my opinion, a healthier choice. Especially one that’s traditionally used to mix alcohol, as fructose is metabolised by your liver.

Caitlin’scat I don’t eat sugar, at all. I don’t guzzle cans of coke. 5.7g sugar (a teaspoon approx) in a drink is a lot. Do you take sugar in tea? If not, try drinking one with a tsp sugar in it- it’s rank.

"Give me artificial sweeteners over sugar any day of the week. People don’t seem to realise how dangerous it is as it’s ‘natural’"

Don't be utterly ridiculous. The tiny amount of sugar in a light Fever Tree is not half as dangerous as the accompanying ethanol.