To stockpile food, medicine and petrol?

[Laudanumm]

So apparently we're now at very high risk of exiting the EU in March without a trade agreement with the EU. The government wanted to keep it secret, but it's been leaked that the middle of the 3 outcomes they're discussing, so not the bad one, is the port of Dover collapsing on day 1, immediate food shortages and almost immediate petrol and medicine shortages - as in, no food in the supermarkets. It's in the Sunday Times. AIBU to start stockpiling?

@quiz

Iceland is in the EEA ffs - ie the single market - and will hold a referendum on joining the EU at some point.

It seems the Brexit fans would ideally like the UK to manage it's food more like Australia does.

I live in Oz, it's expensive to eat here because the rules on where the food's come from are strict...all the fruit and veg has come from Australia. We have to pay more because Australian farmers come first.

@TheGlaikitRambler my gran stockpiled for y2k , just ended up with a freezer full of food and a cupboard full of tins. I remember my uncle opening the cupboard and saying 'mum why have you got 23 tins of rice pudding' 😂😂😂😂

@thesearepearls I read an article in the Times suggesting that the Home Office was considering releasing lots of criminals from prison early to cope with the Brexit exodus. Marvellous. That's not going to help my team.

I work for the MOJ this is so untrue it's laughable

@FASH

Link? I've never heard of this report.

How do you think countries outside of the EU cope?

Its nowhere on google either.

red practically all countries outside the EU are in a localised trading block.
We will be one of the very few that isn't.

FASH84

Farmers Guardian reported Gauke saying this a few days ago:

Justice Secretary David Gauke announced the proposal in a speech delivered at a young offenders’ institute in Thamesmead, South-East London, last week.

He suggested prisoners who have been risk-assessed could be rewarded for good behaviour with jobs on farm under the workplace release on temporary licence (ROTL) scheme.

“Leaving the EU is likely to have an impact on the workforce in sectors such as catering, construction and agriculture”, Mr Gauke said.

“I see an opportunity here for both prisoners and employers, particularly those operating in these sectors.“

www.fginsight.com/news/news/government-plan-to-replace-migrant-workers-with-prisoners-a-distraction-62109

We’ve lived through the Millennium bug, Swine flu, bird flu etc.

But we can't get through 3 days of heavy moderate snow without the shops running out of bread & milk due to unnecessary panic buying... at the first sign of trouble it'll be pandemonium & people descending on Tesco like a plague of locusts in search of the last loaf of Warburtons toastie

Most leavers I know are only more convinced than ever that it's the right thing to do, literally "come Hell or high water", because they see all the difficulties as being the EU's fault. They believe that a second referendum will only go more strongly there way because now everyone can see what horrid bullies the EU are being. They are all perfectly happy to leave with no deal and blithely say that even a generation of grinding, Dickensian poverty will be worth it

There will never be a compromise. The UK will be leaving. The politicians only have to try and position themselves to lay all blame elsewhere.

@ Fash

May I direct you to the article in the Times May 25 entitled "Prisoners could fill post-Brexit job vacancies, says minister"

Clearly you know better than David Gauke - I suggest you write in to the Times to explain your point of view

Those who say this is scaremongering - what exactly do you think will happen to our supply chains if we crash out without a deal?! . Do you think the EU will just say 'oh it's fine, don't worry about all that customs nonsense' and wave all our imports/exports through?

It's nothing less than magical thinking.

COUNTRIES OUTSIDE THE EU OR EEA AREA ARE NOT GEOGRAPHICALLY IN EUROPE. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN NEIGHBOURS THEY TRADE WITH.

But the rest of the world doesn't cope that well! Much of the world outside the EU consists of lower and middle income countries, and suffers from political insecurity, wars, lack of human rights, social safety net, flawed democracies, deregulated economies, massive inequality ect.

I honestly think Brexit has been the biggest single act of state self-sabotage that the world has ever seen. After twenty years most of the Brexiteers will be dead, and this will be their legacy.

Pathetic

Your neighbours looting your house? People running out of medicine and dying? Rationing?

Is this likely to actually happen?!

Of course it's not.

Have they sorted out the Irish border issue yet?

We can mainline dried pasta, tinned tomatoes and wine in through RoI.

Most Tory brexiteers actually accept this analysis which was leaked from DD own brexit department. They are blaming the government for not preparing for a no deal.

Sorry so to finally answer the OP's question, YANBU, apart from the petrol bit. I personally won't be stockpiling food, but will try and get hold of some extra inhalers.

Stockpiling fuel brings its own risks and is not an sensible suggestion.

Medicines are a different matter. Only a fool would ignore the risks there.

silver I agree brexit is, isn't it?

I think it’s a very good idea to stockpile food, water, medication and fuel.

DO NOT tell people, it will make you a target.

Remember to stockpile small bottles of spirits and cigarettes. You will be able to trade these for other goods.

Petrol only has a 2-3 week shelf life without stabilizing chemicals.

Don't stockpile anything. Even if there were a shortage, there'd be plenty to go around for the foreseeable if idiots didn't fucking panic and stockpile.

The UK only has a 48 hour supply of most stuff. When the supplies stop, the thin layer of civility will disintegrate into civil unrest.

Iceland is in the EEA ffs - ie the single market

I thought you meant the shop- not the country and were advocating that all the mums need to go to Iceland to avoid any shortages.

Just buy your own petrol tanker and stick it on the drive- I am trained to off load one if you need any help

If any of your loved ones worked in the science or academic profession you have already been effected by it a near total freeze on all science funding and a massive reduction of academic research. These industries were nearly totally wrecked over night but shrug we don't these to function all we need is financial markets aka what Thatcher wanted oh wait those will be adversely effected when banks cannot easily access one of the largest economic areas in the world..

But sure nothing will change.

It's quite naive to think it'll all just be grand if no deal is cut. The supply chain to the supermarkets is a few days, there are not stocks of food to last weeks in the country.

Studies show that when people miss three days of meals, that's when civil society begins to break down. I don't think people will be quick to loot their neighbours, but there will be riots and unrest if there is a lack of food. Of course there will.

Hopefully, there's some kind of plan to dole out emergency rations before things get really bad (like I'm sure there are existing plans in the event that the food supply chain is interrupted for any reason like computer glitch etc) but that could be me being naive now.