To stockpile food, medicine and petrol?

[Laudanumm]

So apparently we're now at very high risk of exiting the EU in March without a trade agreement with the EU. The government wanted to keep it secret, but it's been leaked that the middle of the 3 outcomes they're discussing, so not the bad one, is the port of Dover collapsing on day 1, immediate food shortages and almost immediate petrol and medicine shortages - as in, no food in the supermarkets. It's in the Sunday Times. AIBU to start stockpiling?

I’m going to stockpile wine!

applesandpears enlighten us and put us out of our apparent ignorance

I remember my mother stockpiling stuff because of the Y2K virus that never was. She spent 6 months scouring bogof deals and then spent the first 3 months of 2000 eating her way through oxtail soup, chunky chicken, tinned pies and tinned veg to get rid of the unnecessary stockpile.

how many people honestly can say that their lives have radically and irrevocably changed since the Brexit vote?

@mummymeister the ignorance in this statement alone is an insult to thousands upon thousands of hard working EU originating tax paying individuals who have families / children / houses / money in the UK who couldn't vote even if they had live here their whole adult working life and woke up to find themselves being used as pawn pieces to bargain with in some giant political game.

The impact on everyday people is very much real and life changing.

Do you have any idea how many pages of paper work and the level of 'evidence' a EU member individual has to complete to apply for Permanent Residency and then Naturalisation? (Without taking into account the nearly 2k a person cost.)

Probably leaked by remainers who won't just accept public vote. Most people have a freezer full of food anyway so won't starve.

To think all this fear and etc. happened because the Tories were trying to appease the eurosceptics within their party.

Not thinking about the populace at all and the effect it could have on many. No plan before the vote, no plan now either.

Cameron is odious. So is Farage.

I am concerned anyway, if anyone else cares.

I've only just got over the Millenium bug, now it's bloody doomsday.

My dd can't believe the public information films we had in the 80's about a nuclear attack.
I still want to know where these sirens were coming from, we didn't have any then.

Isn't it odd that zombies can't climb? Kids start climbing at a very young age, and we're descended from climbing apes. Climbing is surely pretty basic motor function for humans. Also, the amount of time I spend in the car getting to and from work, I'm pretty sure the zombie me will have enough muscle memory to be able to drive.

I'm going to stockpile petrol just in case - the car-driving zombie me will be the coolest zombie kid in town come Brexit.

gilly

Protect and survive even as a 70s kid I thought it was OTT.

I will stock pile wine too. It’s the only way

Mummymeister

How has the Brexit vote affected me? My company exports over 90% of production to the EU, but since last summer, if we remained in the UK we would have been unable to bid for any tenders or sign any contracts for delivery beyond this coming autumn. Our customers want to know whether or not our products will be compliant, what delivery times we can guarantee and what our prices will be. We could not tell them any of this, so they have been moving their orders to our competitors based in the EU. Our staff are mostly EU citizens, recruited for their technical and language skills and for their knowledge of local markets. They have almost all decided to leave the UK over the next few months as their futures, and those of their families, are completely uncertain after March 2019.

Rather than see the collapse of a successful business that we have spent 16 years building up, we have decided to relocate to within the EU and have already moved most of our operations. Our staff can largely continue to work for us from their new home locations. We can guarantee our prices and delivery times to our customers. Unfortunately, our British staff will either need to move with us, if they can, or face redundancy. Our suppliers, couriers, office providers and of course the UK tax authorities will all lose the hundreds of thousands of pounds that our business generated.

I acknowledge that for many people who do not have much day-to-day dealing with the EU, the impact of the Brexit vote is probably negligible, but for a million people whose jobs are dependent on free and frictionless access to the EU, Brexit is already having major repercussions.

How on earth would it be in EUs (who is a net exporter to the uk) interests not to have a trade deal?

I rely on a number of medications and have had difficulty with supply in the past. I dread how I will cope if this happens.

My dad had a big legal diesel tank during the fuel shortages previously. Right next to my side of the house. Thanks dad.

You should keep a wek’s Supplies anyway.

Some zombies can climb. Has nobody seen World War Z? The best place to hide a stockpile is under the floorboards.

how many people honestly can say that their lives have radically and irrevocably changed since the Brexit vote?

BREXIT HASN'T HAPPENED YET!! the fact that life hasn't irrevocably changed before an event takes place is not proof that it won't irrevocably change after that event.
I mean, fucking hell, that is hardly rocket science.
However, the pound has plummeted in value, we have lost loads of EU nurses, and seen a massive decrease in new EU nurses coming to work in hospitals which has put the NHS under massive strain, A lack of EU migrant fruit pickers left crops rotting in fields last summer - and I have no doubt that the same will happen this year. Whilst every economy in the EU is growing - ours is shrinking - we have gone from being the top of the growth tables to the bottom of it since the vote. There has been an increase in racial hate crimes, many international businesses have decided to either move their headquarters from Britain or put plans for expansion on hold. Many many jobs have been lost - in manifold different ways - because of the brexit vote.
So just because your life hasn't changed - don't claim other people's haven't.

And this all - I repeat - BEFORE brexit has even taken place.

the day after Brexit, will be absolutely no different from the day before it
The very next day - for most of us - probably not. Not if you work at a port though, or you are attempting to pass through that port. Then it will be utter chaos (at the moment everything fro the EU can be waved through - no checks - adding those checks will cripple the ports immediately. The Govt are 'planning' for permanent operation stack - that is not what the leave campaign said brexit would look like!)

However the article doesn't say that life will change the very next day. It says food shortages in a week and then about a week later petrol and medicine shortages.

All the food we import from the EU will be held up in customs. All the food that we import from the rest of the world - that was already going through customs - will now be held up in much much longer queues. Yes, food shortages will happen if we don't cancel this fucking madness get a deal.
As will petrol and medicine shortages.
And I don't want to know what happens to the country when we've been hungry for a week. Or when people start dying because they can't get their medication.

So no -op YANBU (though don't stockpile petrol). People need to pull their heads out of the sand. This shit could really happen. Next April. We need to let the govt know that we will not accept this - and not sleepwalk into a catastrophe that could take years, even decades, to put right.

Someone said this would be like the millennium bug. The reason the millennium bug didn't come to pass was because hundreds, if not thousands, of people worked their arses off in the run up to Y2K to make sure it didn't happen. Not because the threat was not a real one.
This govt does not know what it is doing. It is not working its arse off to avert catastrophe That is the difference between the millenium bug, and brexit.

Despite everything, the UK is a small island really, full of hubris.

There are indications that the UK will either crash out (and that will not help anyone anywhere), or agree to a CU of sorts. Brexit in name only or BINO for the hard of hearing.

Two years on and nothing has been agreed. Next March is only the blink of an eye away too.

Dreadful planning, or should I say, no planning at all!

I will say it again, I am concerned. But would dearly love to be reassured.

I still want to know where these sirens were coming from, we didn't have any then.
We did on the south coast. They were tested every 6 months or so.

NoSuchThingAsAlpha - have you ever seen a grown up try to climb a rope? Easily 9/10 can't do it. I doubt death has a positive impact on upper body strength.

I was rather hoping that someone would come on the thread and tell me how its affected them dramatically because I know a fair few people in business, friends, acquaintances and so far haven't found anyone that can point to a tangible effect.

I work in sales, selling an expensive bespoke thing into businesses and the public sector. Many major projects which I was expecting to translate into orders have been cancelled or put on hold since the Leave vote due to the uncertainty. One firm of architects I worked with actually went bust as a direct result of this. The company I work for has gone from gradual recovery through the 2010s to struggling, again, factory overtime is at a minimum and if things don't go right next March I will be surprised if some jobs - good manufacturing jobs in a deprived area - don't go.

The thing we make (sorry to be vague but my industry is tiny) is also made in most other industrialised countries and is expensive to transport overseas, so while we do it very well and our prices are good, there's not much opportunity for us to export into this new global market that we're supposed to be magicking up. We need a strong domestic economy to succeed and vague platitudes off the DExEU aren't going to cut it.

We’ve lived through the Millennium bug, Swine flu, bird flu etc. It’s all just scaremongering, I’ll just make sure we have enough gin, so tired of Britain’s media (the daily fail) trying to terrify us.

www.ons.gov.uk/economy/environmentalaccounts/articles/ukenergyhowmuchwhattypeandwherefrom/2016-08-15

Brexit will be a slow decline.
It'll probably get bad for a while, recover and then just slowly decline with everyone in denial about how shit it is. Dead cat bounce.

I hope my children emigrate, except, that if I'm truly honest about how selfish I am, i really hope they don't.

Oh and I lost a big contract after the vote as companies halted expenditure. My friend has closed her business.

When you look at the progress (none) achieved since the revocation of A50 up to now, and look ahead to March 2019, anyone with a brain can see it is not working out at all.

I do realise that there is a transition period proposed, which is similar to the period between A50 and today. But nothing concrete has been agreed to date has it?

The world is watching the incompetence of the current Government. Believe me. And with people like JRMogg and others, it is no wonder everyone is laughing their cotton socks off at the total waste of time this all is, and will be.

Brexit will only be experienced the day after the cut off point. But the signs so far are not all that positive are they?